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Boat Review: Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade

The Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade is a HUGE 22-foot bow rider with a catamaran hull that offers safety and versatility for fishing in open waters or cruising in comfort with a group of friends or family. This catamaran is a very different animal than the Lagoon 380 we recently reviewed, but they both share a roomy layout and twin-engine performance. Is the Glacier Bay 2240 SX Renegade a rental boat worthy of the Busy Boater seal of approval? We rented one on the lee shore of Maui from Aloha Outdoors to find out.

• Smooth, quiet ride
• Plenty of power and speed to get you there fast and muscle your way through rough conditions
• Twin engines offer redundancy and maneuverability
• Incredibly roomy
• Capacity rating of eight passengers is low for this size of boat
• No forward-facing seat at windshield for lookout
• Side to side rolling motion contributes to sea sickness

Piloting the Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade

Glacier bay 2240 engines.

Our test boat was equipped with twin 115hp fuel injected Yamaha outboard engines with close to 3,000 hours on them. Many would consider this a very high number of hours, especially in a salt-water rental fleet. However, these engines shifted smoothly, started easily, and cruised cleanly and quietly. I consider this a testament to Yamaha, which is an expensive engine option, as well as the strong maintenance program the rental company must be managing.

It is important to have an engine that starts, idles and shifts confidently when you are docking. A stalled engine just as you need to reverse to stop the boat can result in bruised fiberglass and a bruised ego. Fuel injection has helped exponentially in this area. Higher end outboards, like this Yamaha, tend to have a more compliant shift whereas entry level Mercury units grind when shifting in and out of neutral. I’ve been told many times that this is normal and acceptable, but it does not inspire confidence.

The twin engine configuration also inspires confidence with redundancy. Each engine has a separate 75 gallon fuel tanks and its own electrical system. This isolation ensures that mechanical failure, whether it be related to fuel, battery, or the motor, is isolated to one side of the boat. The engines are close enough to the centerline that the boat is fully capable of running under one engine in the event of a failure.

At the Helm of the 2240

The helm was well positioned and comfortable for all three Busy Boaters, ranging from 5 feet to 6 feet tall. All of the instruments were easy to see without obstructing the view of the water ahead. The stereo was exposed to the sun and very difficult to read, requiring me to lean in and cover it with my hand to confirm settings. Luckily we didn’t need to view it much since we could set the music on our phone with the Bluetooth. I’ll also note that our test boat, equipped with four 6.5″ speakers and a budget marine head unit was more than adequate at filling the boat with tunes under way.

The twin throttles located to the right of the wheel were very easy to see and operate from the helm seat. All of the electrical switches were also visible and easy to access, just below the throttles. The VHF was mounted below the wheel, but we could hear it fine from there and it was easy to adjust volume and squelch knobs in that location.

The ladder back helm seat was surprisingly comfortable. It looks less comfy than some of the swoopy bucket seats you often see in bowriders. However, the padding was adequate and the armrest was a welcome addition that made it easier to position yourself without being able to move the chair from its fixed post. We were also able to get a bit more height on the seat by sitting on the throwable life preserver.

The boat did not have a rudder indicator, water speed indicator, or depth sounder. This lack of instruments was not a show-stopper on this boat.  It was easy to determine the wheel position by looking behind the helm to see the direction the outboards were pointed. The boat was equipped with a GPS chart plotter that indicated the charted water depth as well as GPS speed. Additionally, the shoreline drops off quickly where we were in Maui. So there wasn’t a lot of concern over water depth.

The boat was not equipped with hydraulic steering. While the steering wheel still turned with little effort, it took quite a few turns of the wheel to turn the motors from lock to lock.  However, the wheel did have a spinner knob to make it easier to quickly make a hard turn. The twin engines also make tight turns easier because you can throttle up one engine with the other in neutral, or even put one in forward and one in reverse to rotate the boat in place.

Under Way in the Catamaran

The boat cruised nicely with the engines at 3,900 RPMs, making about 19 knots. At this speed in swells of 1-2 feet, the boat got some lift over the waves, but came down very softly without ever crashing. This was true when we were running into the waves, with the waves, or quartered to the waves (waves coming at a 45-degree angle to the bow or stern). It was a very remarkable ride that allowed me to sit back and relax whereas in so many monohull boats, I would have been watching the bow and the waves and throttling up and down to keep from crashing over a poorly timed wave. My only complaint here is taking the waves from the side caused an exaggerated side to side rolling motion. Though this was less of an issue at higher speeds than at idle.

Cruising at 3,900 rpms, the boat was incredibly quiet at the helm, with more noise coming from the water than the twin engines.  In addition to being Yamahas (known for quiet performance) the outboards were mounted below the boat’s tall transom, which helped to block sound from entering the boat. I don’t like to explore the limits of an unfamiliar boat in unfamiliar water, but this boat can probably break 30 knots given the motors are rated to run around 6,000 RPMs at wide open throttle.

We spent quite a bit of time running at slower speeds as well:

• The boat idled at 800 RPMs and 3 knots.
• When cruising along the coastline looking for whales, or eating lunch, we ran the boat at 1,000 RPMs and 5 knots.
• We also found a very comfortable speed around 3,000 RPMs and 12 knots that was fast enough to smooth out the ride but slow enough to settle the lift over waves. I suspect this is a relatively inefficient way to travel given that the bow was riding a bit high and 3,900 RPMs offered 60% more speed for 30% more RPMs. However, the ride was much more compliant than a traditional monohull running below its planing speed.
• Note that the boat planed very easily, and the bow rise was never an impediment to visibility.

Glacier Bay 2240sx Storage

An abundance of cupholders is always handy on a boat. They can be used to secure sunglasses, keys, cell phones and other small items, in addition to beverages, which themselves are important on a sunny day to keep the crew hydrated. This boat was equipped with ten cup holders:

• One at each end of the two benches in the bow
• Two at each end of the lounge seat (two of them accessible from the fishing cockpit).
• One just to the right of the helm seat and one behind the helm seat that can be accessed from the helm or the live well seat.

While some of the cupholders were mounted precariously high, the two forward cupholders in the bow and the two at the helm were down low, allowing for relatively secure storage.

The dash area below the windshield also offered a convenient place to secure charts, binoculars, phones and the like without obstructing the forward view.

There were three spacious storage compartments throughout the boat:

• A set of double doors in the cockpit allow easy access to the long wide storage area under the lounge seat.
• A large hatch slides open between the lounge seat and the windshield to reveal a tall, deep compartment with standing room. This can be used for changing into a swimsuit or going potty (if you brought a bucket or cassette toilet). It also runs the full length of the port (left) bench seat in the bow. Fishing poles and other large items can be stored here. This is more secure than many boats that only have room for poles under the gunwales in the cockpit.
• The starboard (right) bench seat in the bow lifts to reveal storage that runs back underneath the helm. On our boat, life jackets were stored under the bench. Other safety equipment was stored under the helm where it could be accessed through a small hatch.

A live well is located behind the helm seat that doubles as an additional seat. We used it as a cooler for our lunch. It could have easily swallowed three more 12″x8″ tote bags like the one we brought.

Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade Layout

While the boat is very roomy with ten cupholders and comfortable seating for at least that many, the capacity plate shows a limit of eight passengers. This is a surprisingly low rating for a boat this large with this much freeboard (height above the waterline). However, its intended use in rough open waters may have something to do with this. Regardless of the capacity rating, our rental company limits capacity to six passengers. In rough conditions, you’ll want to have everyone behind the windshield. More than six without the bow seating would start to be tight.

This boat has a rather unique layout, with the forward 3/4 of the length equipped like a typical side console deck boat with wide, comfortable lounge seating, and a wrap-around windshield. The final few feet of the boat has an open cockpit area for fishing. Being a catamaran, the Glacier Bay 2240 is very wide for its length, and the outboards eliminate the need for engine space within the hull. With these space improving advantages, you really get as much room as you’d expect in a typical 22-footer just in the front 3/4 of the boat. So you can look at the rear cockpit as gravy for easier fishing or additional storage.

Glacier Bay 2240 Cockpit

The open cockpit is a great spot for working your fish without seats getting in the way. It can also be used to stash a cooler, towels, or other equipment.  Rod holders are integrated into each of the side rails. A cutting board is mounted on the starboard (right) stern rail. The cutting board is in a perfect spot to wipe and wash fish guts back into the water and out of the boat. It also has a hole to secure a dirty knife on the outside of the hull. This keeps your sharp bloody blade from falling overboard or making a mess inside the boat.

The center of the cockpit has a cutout to allow easy access to the swim platform.  The swim platform has a long ladder with four rungs. Tall railings extend the full length of the platform. This allows you to easily board the boat both from the water and when it is on a trailer.

Helm and Lounge Area in the 2240 Catamaran

The center area of the boat can seat five comfortably behind the windshield. In addition to the helm seat, there is a seat on the live well behind the helm. An L shaped lounge seat large enough for three people sits opposite the helm. Personally, I prefer a front facing seat next to the helm for a lookout/navigation companion. On this boat I found myself standing behind the helm seat when Busy Boater Jr was running the boat.

The boat had a very generous bimini top with a sturdy frame. It ran from the dash to the end of the lounge seat providing good protection from the sun. It was also quite tall, allowing me, at six feet tall, to stand up straight without hitting my head.

My biggest beef with the design of the Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade was a small step that ran the width of the boat near the helm. If you don’t notice it while moving quickly through the boat, you can trip.

Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade Bow

The catamaran advantage is most evident in the bow area where the boat carries its full 8.5 foot beam all the way forward. A wide bench on each side of the Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade bow area with deep backs and heavy bow rails provides a sense of security while under way.

How Much Does a Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade Cost to Rent and Where Can I Find One?

Aloha Outdoors has three Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade’s available for rent in Maui, Hawaii from a boat ramp just North of Wailea in Kihei. As of this writing, you can rent for 5 hours for $695 or 6 hours for $795. On water instruction is available if you aren’t ready to take the boat out on your own. They normally have shorter rental options as well, but they don’t currently have enough staff to support multiple turns per day. #BlameCovid #GreatResignation

Boatsetter has a Glacier Bay 2270 listed for rent on Oahu, north of Honolulu, Hawaii. The 2270 offers the same hull with a cuddy cabin: the bow is enclosed ahead of the windshield. This design is better for rough seas as it will quickly shed water that comes over the bow, but it comes at the expense of seating. I won’t mention the price because of Boatsetter’s lack of transparency in its fee structure.

Club Nautico just South of Miami, Florida on Key Biscayne rents a 27 foot Glacier Bay for $900 4hrs/$1,300 8 hrs. It has the same great layout as the 2240, just a bit more of everything.

What Kind of Experience Do I Need to Rent a Glacier Bay 2240 Catamaran?

The Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade itself is very easy to run. It would be reasonable for an inexperienced boater to take one out on a calm lake with help coming and going from the dock. However, this is a big water boat. You’ll need a lot of (well placed) confidence to take this boat out in the cruising grounds it was designed for. Such as the unprotected waters and high surf of Hawaii, or the incredible tidal currents and shallow waters of the Florida Keys.

Aloha Outdoors requires 100 hours of experience on a boat >20 feet with 10 hours at the helm. Preferably on the Ocean. That’s a good barometer. Although its probably most important to have experience on a powerboat smaller than 30 feet with console steering. In fact a smaller planing dinghy with console steering will give you a lot of experience handling in chop, even in a lake. However, sail boats, pontoon boats, trawlers, and tiller controlled fishing boats don’t lend the appropriate experience to take on this challenge. If you don’t have the requisite experience, taking an instructor out with you in rough waters will prep you for your next rental opportunity.

If you want to get out on the water in Maui, but aren’t ready to rent the Glacier Bay 2240, we explore a few other options in our Maui Boat Rental Article.

Similar Boats

Like many other boats, the Great Recession killed the Glacier Bay 2240sx Renegade. 2008 was the last model year for the 2240 series as Glacier Bay focused on a smaller number of larger catamarans until consolidating with Carolina Cat, World Cat, and Livingston over the following decade. The company has recently reintroduced a similar model called the World Cat 230SD.

A deck boat or pontoon boat will give you the roomy lounginess of this boat with a higher capacity rating. The tradeoff being less ability to handle rough water. This could fit the bill on a calm lake, river, or even more protected ocean passages. Examples of deck boats include Hurricane and the Bayliner Element series.

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Glacier Bay 3065

• By Randy Vance
• Updated: August 24, 2006

At a Glance A wide footprint and deep-riding sponsons give this Glacier Bay a smooth, stable ride in the roughest waters.

During our test, the ocean at Miami’s Government Cut pounded ashore, driven by a wicked easterly wind. The rollers swept into the cut, echoing off the rock jetties and creating what the people at Glacier Bay considered perfect testing grounds for their new 3065 Canyon Runner catamaran. So we powered into the corn-cob roughness with high expectations — and we were not disappointed.

The wide stance of the sponsons gives the boat an uncommonly stable ride. Special pads on the bottom of each sponson are designed to enhance tracking. In fact, the boat powered through sharp turns with a comfortable attitude that most catamarans can’t equal.

Lifting strakes on each sponson raise more of the boat out of the water. According to the manufacturer, they reduce drag at high throttle settings and increase speed. We couldn’t measure that difference with a GPS, but what we found was a ride as pleasantly nimble as a V-hull boat, but softer.

Still, with the Yamaha 250s turning 19-inch Saltwater Series II props, we could see there was something to that speed claim. Our boat stepped up to 40 mph carrying a party weighing approximately 1,300 pounds — hard not to be impressed. Yamaha engineers clocked 43 mph with a two-man crew earlier that day.

Performance is only one test of a great boat, though. Comfort and utility are others. The wide center console gave us plenty of comfortable seating for two adults. There were no white knuckles on board, but for the unnecessarily nervous, handrails are well-placed practically everywhere. A roomy head and hot shower option makes the boat into an all-day model.

One of the side benefits of a catamaran is the enormously wide deck, giving plenty of space for fishing or just relaxing. Livewells, plenty of rod storage and fish lockers large enough for a manatee round out the 3065’s fishability.

VITAL STATS Length Overall: 32’5″ Beam: 10’8″ Dry Weight: 9,300 lb. Fuel Capacity: 240 gal. Maximum HP: 500 MSRP (base boat): $165,560 w/ Twin Yamaha 250s (price starting at $159,000) MSRP (test boat): $199,315

TEST DRIVE Test Engine: Yamaha F250 (Twin) Test Prop: 15.25 x 19 Saltwater Series II Test Load: People (1,300 lb.); Fuel (100 gal.) Top Speed: 42.8 MPH @ 5800 RPM Minimum Plane: 40.6 MPH @ 6,000 RPM @ 86 db

Power Curve RPM MPH Sound Level Idle 3.0 64 db 1,000 3.6 66 db 1,500 5.9 67 db 2,000 7.3 69 db 2,500 8.4 74 db 3,000 15.7 77 db 3,500 17.8 79 db 4,000 20.7 83 db 4,500 23.9 85 db 5,000 28.9 86 db 5,500 33.6 86 db 6,000 40.6 87 db

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HKT Horizon New Member

Hi All, I've been looking at power cats recently and have been looking at Glacier Bay as I think aesthetically they look good and it seems like they are also very serious and well built boats. Any of you out there that have had experience or know about the company and their boats? Would appreciate your input or thoughts about it. Thanks. Their website is www.glacierbaycats.com

catmando Senior Member

They're heavier than the rest of their breed and so fuel mileage will not match the others. The ride might be better though. I think there are about five different builders so my suggestion is test as many of them as you can. My view is there are very few situations in which multihulls are not superior to monohulls. You're on the right track for sure.

Catmando, Thanks for your reply on the subject. Actually I'm considering to take on their dealership here in SE Asia that's why I've been looking into them. Cats are not very popular here in SE Asia as people usually just think they are ugly and more for commercial purposes only. I think it may be a good time for me to introduce it to the market here. Sailing cats are accepted here but power cats are still foreign to most people. If I go ahead with this then I'll probably order the Glacier Bay 2270 which is 22 feet with a cuddy cabin. It will be more for myself to zip around with and as a first boat around for show and trials. Feel free to share whatever ideas or knowledge you may have. Thanks.

KCook Senior Member

Glacier Bay is certainly the best known US cat builder. Fountaine Pajot also has some interesting designs. But they don't seem to have anything under 35 feet - http://www.fountaine-pajot.com/-Highland-35,174-.html Kelly

jakeh New Member

resale on power cats Glacier Bay makes a nice boat, but you should take a look at the resale compared to mono hulls of the same length. Power cats are very expensive and take a huge hit on resale due to limited demand in the used boat market. Do not know if this applies to where you are located.

Thanks for your replies. We have dealers for Fountaine Pajot here in the region but so far most of the boats that have come in are mostly sailing cats. I think there is one power cat from Fountaine Pajot here and if I remember correctly one Lagoon power as well. Power cats are not that popular to begin with here so there's not much of a used market for them to begin with. I just think it may be a good time to start introducing it now to get a start on things. The boating industry isn't anywhere close to what it's like over in the US or Europe but I believe the growth will be very significant over the long term. Thanks for the input and keep them coming if there's anymore.

Though not nearly so well known as Glacier Bay, the Prowler cats also have something of a following in the US. Hard core fishing boats though, do not lean toward cruising like GB - http://www.renaissancecats.com/ Kelly

scott49 Senior Member

Glacier Bay Catamarans out of business? Seen three of there boats at a liquidator in Seattle. They also had rooms filled with misc. boat parts from Glacier Bay Catamarans. Went to Glacier Bay web site and they are having a factory sale with the bank helping out with offers on boats that are in dealer stock. Quote from there website We are responsible for helping the banks and dealers liquidate all current inventory boats Any one know more details?

Manny Senior Member

A friend of mine has a Glacier Bay 20-something as a tender. I've never been on any other boat between 20 to 30 ft that navigates as good as that one. It has my vote.

YachtForums Administrator

Kinda surprised to read this. Glacier Bay busted open the multi-hull segment for sport utility boat buyers who had more sense than dollars. Wait, I take that back. They were just as expensive as everything else. Anyhow... stable, fuel efficient, tracked well, decent quality and ergonomically somewhat correct... for a boat missing a V. Might be a case of trying to expand a line too fast, while the demand wasn't keeping up? It seems Glaciers really are melting... and the deep-V is deep seeded.

Capt J Senior Member

YachtForums said: Kinda surprised to read this. Glacier Bay busted open the multi-hull segment for sport utility boat buyers who had more sense than dollars. Wait, I take that back. They were just as expensive as everything else. Anyhow... stable, fuel efficient, tracked well, decent quality and ergonomically somewhat correct... for a boat missing a V. Might be a case of trying to expand a line too fast, while the demand wasn't keeping up? It seems Glaciers really are melting... and the deep-V is deep seeded. Click to expand...

Capt J said: I've found that the catamarans do very well in moderate seas. BUT, when the weather kicks up and the waves are large enough to hit the center hull, they are a downright nightmare. When it's rough and you plow into a large wave, it hits the center hull and the catamarans feel like you hit a brick wall, come to almost an immediate stop, and you almost fall on the floor if you're not really holding on. I also was on one with inboards and after loosing 1 engine all the boat would do is go in circles and you could not go straight or any resemblance of straight on a single engine. I do not know if the outboard ones have the same issue, or being able to turn the motor/prop is enough for the boat to go straight considering the motor is so far off of centerline. Click to expand...

captain_jack New Member

scott49 said: Seen three of there boats at a liquidator in Seattle. They also had rooms filled with misc. boat parts from Glacier Bay Catamarans. Went to Glacier Bay web site and they are having a factory sale with the bank helping out with offers on boats that are in dealer stock. Quote from there website We are responsible for helping the banks and dealers liquidate all current inventory boats Any one know more details? Click to expand...

Thats is to bad. I have driven by there building in Monroe, Washington and it was a good size location. Seems likes there is alot of buildings for lease (vacant) in that area. Real scary, with this economy whos next?

K1W1 Senior Member

This is also on their website. Our goal is to eliminate field inventory especially while the banks feel compelled to contribute to make the deal. Once the support funds are used, then the discounts are gone. I guess this means when this period of giving "discounts" there will then be a time when any offers will be accepted to clear these boats

brian eiland Senior Member

YachtForums said: ..Might be a case of trying to expand a line too fast, while the demand wasn't keeping up? It seems Glaciers really are melting... and the deep-V is deep seeded. Click to expand...

Capt J said: ..I also was on one with inboards and after loosing 1 engine all the boat would do is go in circles and you could not go straight or any resemblance of straight on a single engine. I do not know if the outboard ones have the same issue, or being able to turn the motor/prop is enough for the boat to go straight considering the motor is so far off of centerline. Click to expand...

NYCAP123 Senior Member

brian eiland said: Interesting variation on 'single engined multihull' Aspen Power Catamarans After considering many designs, the team settled on a completely new hull design and drive system that can be described as a "single diesel power proa." While identical in profile, the hulls are very different in plain view, with one hull 35 percent thininer than the other. Additionally, the design utilizes only one engine, shaft, prop and keel. The design's non-symmetrical or asymmetrical hulls are shaped to compensate for the engine torque. Since both forces are proportional to speed and thrust, the boat runs straight. We call this the SeaGlider system. Click to expand...

Brian@EBM New Member

NYCAP123 said: I can see how that would work in a tank test, but I can't believe it would work in real life where the forces on each hull would change second to second. Click to expand...

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Anyone own/fish a glacier bay catamaran?

quote: world cats ride great

quote: I can't expect the 6yr old much less the 4 or two year old to hang onto a T-top while running 35 mph +

quote: The gunnels are just too low on the twin v.

quote: Glaciers rock side to side ALOT and if it's something you're not used to you won't like them

quote: I would advise you away from the 22 glacier bays. They don't have the positives I mentioned above.

quote: What kind of cruise speed were ya'll making on the center console?

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Glacier Bay 236 Center Console

• Updated: January 29, 2009

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Rough-water performance, enhanced fuel economy and range are the distinguishing characteristics of Glacier Bay’s new 236 Center Console. The design combines displacement efficiency with planing-hull speed. An 86-square-foot cockpit features dual 132-quart fish boxes and rod storage. The helm seat has a built-in 27-gallon livewell. Hydraulic tilt steering is standard, and the dash is capable of sporting twin 12-inch displays. The port-side hatch on the forward deck provides access to a portable head.

LOA…… 24’8″    BEAM…… 8’5″    DRAFT…… 1’5″ **WEIGHT…… 4,300 lbs .   MAX HP…… 280 FUEL…… 120 gals.    PRICE…… $82,700 **w/twin 90 hp Honda four-strokes and T-top

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Test: Battle Of The Power Cats

(Published in the May 1998 issue)

We hit the first wave at about 25 mph. The bow rose so high that only a cloud-scattered expanse of blue Florida sky was visible beyond the rail. As we hung in the air, I told myself: You should have backed off the throttle while you had the chance--moron.

Instead, I clutched the wheel, flexed my knees and waited for the inevitable sternum-crunching reunion with the water. But the impact that followed opened my eyes more than it loosened my fillings.

There was a mild shudder, a gentle compression into the water, and before I knew it we were heading right up the face of the next wave. Again I braced myself, and again the impact never came.

That day three years ago was the first time I rode a power catamaran, and I've been a fan ever since.

These multihulled boats have a number of long-known and seldom-disputed design advantages over monohulls. First, catamarans ride softer because they don't have a large, round bottom that slams against the waves. Second, a catamaran's twin hulls focus the buoyancy around the outside of the boat, rather than in the middle, creating greater initial stability. Third, the two narrow hulls generate about one-third as much wetted surface, or drag, making the boat more efficient. And last, the hulls place the engines farther apart, increasing maneuverability.

So why, you might ask, don't we see more catamarans on the water? After that ride, I asked the same question, and received a simple answer: They don't look right. When people buy a boat they want it to look like their image of a boat--a catamaran doesn't.

Despite this consistent consumer resistance, manufacturers have continued hawking catamarans in U.S. marinas. That cat I tested in 1995, the 25 SeaCat, was just one more entry into a boat class of proven sales failures.

But the SeaCat didn't fail. Some say it was the styling--from the side, at least, it looked almost like a typical boat. Some credit the marketing: With its fuel efficiency and soft ride the cat attracted fishermen with small wallets and grand offshore dreams. And some think the catamaran was just a boat design whose time had come.

Whatever the reason, the SeaCat flourished, and today there are at least 15 companies selling power catamarans in this country. These cats range from 14 to 74 ft., although the majority fall between 19 and 33 ft. Last year, Grady White joined the fray with its 26-ft. Tiger Cat, giving the category the legitimacy of a well-respected domestic builder.

In order to get a handle on this fast-growing group of water wagons--to catch the tiger by the tail, so to speak--we gathered four new catamarans and put them through their paces. Although all four are nominally set up for fishing, we found very different boats that together are ready for almost anything.

Comet Pro-Star 20

This catamaran version of the increasingly popular flats boat is probably the most purpose-specific boat in our test. Like any good flats boat, it planes almost instantly and runs in shallow water. Relatively wide, flat hulls give the Comet lift, as proven by her 14-in. standing draft and ability to plane in 1.9 seconds. Meanwhile, a hydraulic jackplate lowers and raises the engine, allowing the boat to run in only 6 in. of water at full throttle.

Along with handsome blue hulls and nonskid decks, the Comet offers topnotch fit and finish. There's plenty of stowage space and recirculating live and release wells. The helm console has enough room for dash-mounted add-on electronics and is easy to reach from the comfortable bench seat.

On the water, the Comet was steady in a chop that would have slowed other flats boats. Trimming it out lifted the bow, making it feel like a high-powered bass boat without the threat of chine walking. Through turns it stayed flat and in control.

Glacier Bay Canyon Runner 26

Glacier Bay has been building power cats for 10 years, so it probably wouldn't agree that the 25 SeaCat popularized the category. Nevertheless, Glacier Bay hasn't exerted the same influence.

Not that its boats aren't worthy. The Canyon Runner was the only displacement-hulled catamaran in our test. And although this hull type sacrifices some speed at the top end, it makes up for it in ride. The boat ran through 3-ft. waves and over 5-footers with an almost eerie stability. What's more, it retained this smoothness in all directions to the sea. In high-speed, hard-over turns, the Glacier Bay stayed in complete control, although it did heel out a bit.

While the boat is set up for fishing, with fish boxes, live wells and rod holders, it makes a good all-around craft. It features quality components and is well-constructed. Still, its best attribute clearly is the ride. As one dealer aptly sums it up: "You just can't get in trouble in this boat."

True to its catamaran heritage, the Seagull can make a bumpy bay seem paved and can sit beam-to in a heavy chop without making you want to feed the fish. But unlike many other cats, the Seagull has a looser and freer side too.

Since it sits so close to the water, the boat feels even faster than it is. Of course, those low sides also mean it'll take some spray in a cross-breeze, but somehow that's part of this boat's charm. There's a little more action in its ride, making it feel as if it's frolicking across the wave tops, and it turns so quickly that anyone not holding on before a sharp turn will probably be swimming afterward.

The high-gloss gelcoat looks great, but the construction and finish are more workmanlike than flashy. Set up as a general-purpose boat, the Seagull skis, fishes, dives and provides some welcome levity.

World Cat 266 SC

SeaCat's owner retired last year, and the new owners renamed the company World Class Catamaran and redesigned the entire line.

With its cuddy cabin and walkaround helm, the company's new World Cat 266 SC is the queen of that line. And the best compliment we can pay it is to say that it seems like a larger boat, both in terms of its amenities and ride.

At speed, it's very sensitive to trim, especially if the engines are not trimmed evenly. But once it's properly adjusted, this boat is fast and makes the chop go away. It backs particularly well (generally, all cats do because there's less resistance) and stays almost perfectly flat during hard-over turns.

Inside, there are double bunks, a freshwater sink and portable head, all finished to respectable standards. These conveniences make the 266 SC great for a weekend getaway or an overnight stay at a kingfish tournament.

Overall, none of these boats disappointed our test team, but don't take my word for it. You've got to experience a power catamaran to believe it. Take one for a test ride, and then you'll understand why, at last, the power cat is here to stay.

SPECIFICATIONS AND TEST RESULTS

MODEL COMET GLACIER BAY SEAGULL WORLD CAT Price without engine $16,900 $39,500 $18,000 $38,450 Length/Beam/Weight/Draft 20 ft. 6 in./8 ft./1500/12 in. 26 ft. 2 in./8 ft. 6 in./4400/16 in. 19 ft. 3 in./8 ft. 6 in./1600/11 in. 26 ft. 6 in./8 ft. 6 in./4000/12 in. Fuel Capacity 66 gal. 180 gal. 55 gal. 200 gal. Test Engines 1/150-hp Suzuki 2/150-hp Johnson Ficht 1/150-hp Johnson Ficht 2/150-hp Johnson Ficht Speed/gph/Decibels @ idle 2.6/1.0/64 2.5/.7/78 3/.2/69 3.7/.3/62 Speed/gph/Decibels @ 4000 rpm 28.8/7.8/84 28.3/14.2/96 28.1/7.6/90 33.3/17.9/88 Speed/gph/Decibels @ WOT 44.3/15.8/100 36.9/26.5/100 36.7/13.8/100 46.5/26.3/94 0-30 mph (sec.) 2.9 5.37 5.41 5.25 Address 3573 Arnold Ave., Naples, Florida 34104 17341 Tye St. SE, Monroe, Washington 98272 5564 Shirley St., Naples, Florida 34109 801 Staton Rd., Greenville, NC 27834 Speeds are 2-way averages in mph. On twin-engine boats, gph is for both engines. Weight is in pounds, without engines. Test team comments are to the right. > Could redefine performance criteria for flats skiffs. > Allows you to get out in weather that forces other 26-footers home. > Scores high on all- around fun, with a price that will keep you smiling. > Rough-weather ability plus speed and amenities.

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Hello, My family and I have recently moved to corpus christi. I have taken care of finding a job and buying the home my wife wants. Now I need to start thinking about a boat. I figured you guys could offer some great advice. I need a family offshore boat. My wife loves to fish and I have two children 4 and 6 that also love to fish. Me I want to be able to run deep for tuna. I was thinking that the glacierbay 2670 could be a good boat for my needs? It has a cabin for the kids and the wife and a decent cockpit for me and yes at least the wife will be along on almost all of the trips. These boats only hold about 180 gallons so I figure I will need a 50 gallon fuel bladder or maybe a 100 gallon. I am not to worried about speed but am more after a good ride for myself and the wife and kids. I think this boat with 150's will do 30mph which is plenty fast for me. thanks for the help mike s. elbert  

If I'm not mistaken you have the range out of Corpus Christi for tuna and maybe Mr Blue Suit... since the shelf is only what 30 miles off the Jetties!!!!! If I'm mistaken let me know ... I'll leave the coments about there ride to others ... John  

Not sure about the range to the shelf but when the weather is good I would like to be able to runout to some deep rigs that you guys are always spanking the tuna on. Thanks for the response mike  

McGolfer had one. Wait for his response.  

Take a test ride first on any boat you are looking at. Make sure it is in somewhat rough water.  

Took a few rides in a friends 26 Glacier Bay and it was a real smooth ride. If you are worried about range I would think about 4 sroke outboards. The gas milage is unbelivable. Always take a test ride!  

the canyon runner(center console model) has the option of 240 gallons of fuel. i am not sure what if any fuel options are available with the cuddy model. glacier bay has a web site that may give you more insight. the cats have a great ride and with the added room due to the cat design make them more family freindly. if you are concerned about range a fuel bladder would be a great addition. you may also want to make sure that the cat is powered with 4 strokes to extend your range. the honda 150's would be great motors for that hull. the run from port aransass to the spar rigs (tuna country) is around 110 miles or so and with the bladder you will have the range. good luck with your new purchase. i think ronnies marine in corpus area is your local glacier bay dealer.....rick  

I have made the run to the deep rigs in a buddies Glacier Bay and we burn 240 gallons of fuel on the trip out of Matagorda. He doesn't have the new high tech engines, but the Glacier Bay is not noted to be very good on fuel. I have seen the new spec sheet on there numbers with 4-stroke engines. They not as good as I would have though on a stripped boat. It was a little over 2mpg and you know that is going to go way down when you have those boats loaded and battle ready. rick, I think it is closer to 140 miles out of portA  

Boat Options I too live in the Corpus area (Portland). I have fished out of the center consule model of that boat out of Venice is a great hull. I have also fished out of a WorldCat 25 with 150 Hondas and was even more impressed with it! 1. Honda 150s and you have something that will take you far and back! 2. Yellowfin tuna and Marlin or in range in our area just depends on learning the ropes of the area. Get a guide to help you learn how to fish and rig out your boat. Go by Virgina's in Port A near the Walfcat and San Jose Isalnd ferry docks and talk with my friend Bobby. He has caught more big yellowfin and marlin out of a 18-ft Boston Whaler than anyone I have ever met. 3. The 25-26-ft cats with 150 Hondas are great boats.  

thanks for the replies I am not necessaarily stuck on the glacier. I was just thinking that ronnies has a local service. The boat would come with yammi f150's. If thier are some other boats you guys would think would fit my needs I would like to check them out as well. I am going to have to keep this boat for a long time and have been saving for about 5 years so I want to be very careful on this purchase. If thier are any others please don't hesitate to speak up. I will check them out as well. My goal is a safe boat for the family. I was actually thinking about the kevla but knew boat with knew owners made me nervous and glacier is local. thanks michael  

I had the GB 260, and mileage with 150 HPDI's was about 1.5mpg. It also had the 240 gal tanks. For a 26' boat, they are hard to beat. I never liked the following sea ride, but otherwise a good boat IMO.  

Two things to add: 1. yOU  

Two things to add: 1. You could call Peace Marvel of ReelPeace Charters in Venice, La. He  

Three things to add: 1. You could call Peace Marvel of ReelPeace Charters in Venice, La. He runs 4 of them in the open. 2. You might really study the cabin option. I have seen the boat you are considering and it is really sweet, more open than most walkaround mono hulls. But over and over I see people buy cabins as a consession for the wife and kids and they end up being no more than musty storage lockers that take up a whole lot of space. It is impossible to not get queezy if you go down into a cabin in any waves at all...it is hot and musty down there too. Almost all boats in the San Juan Islands of Oregon/Washington have cabins or enclosures, but in South Texas I think it is perhaps not a good idea. Probably you will take your family out on nice shorter trips. When you go out long with your hard core buds, you will wish for a full open. Anyway, Glacier Bays have a great reputation, lots of fish box room, etc. 3. I have never run for Tuna out of Port Aransas, but those ReelPeace GBs at times put some serious miles in search of YFT...and they do not use extra bladders. Some have 150 Yam HPDI and some the Yam 150 4 strokes. Again, see if you can catch Mr Marvel for a review. That would be a deal maker/breaker with me...if I worried about the fuel capacity I would look at a different rig. Spending a fortune on a boat and then having to take along jugs or a bladder seems very undesireable to me. Good luck.  

I don't know how set you are on a Glacier Bay, but you may want to look at TwinVee cats. There is a dealer in Rockport. It could save you a lot of money upfront and in running costs. I believe that the 26 footer gets over 2.5 nmpg. They are a light planning hull that supposedly rides as good as a Glacier Bay.  

gb (i am pretty sure) is a displacement hull and from what i have heard is one of the best running cats on the water. i have ridden in a lot of cats but not the gb. the hull type may account for the fuel economy.  

bp fishin(kat-a-lac) said: I had the GB 260, and mileage with 150 HPDI's was about 1.5mpg. It also had the 240 gal tanks. For a 26' boat, they are hard to beat. I never liked the following sea ride, but otherwise a good boat IMO. Click to expand...

Capt. Curtiss Cash, I believe is a salesperson and frequent member on this board from Ronnies Marine. Let him help you. His call name is Capt. Lowtide  

We have a Glacier Bay 2670 and we love it. It is equipped with twin 150 Yamaha HPDI's. We average 1.5 mpg. Our range is 270 - 300. We have gotten as good as 1.8 mpg. We have fished with Peace for the last 5 years. He is the reason we bought the glacier bay. The main reason we chose the 2670 over the 260 is that you don't get wet from the spray in less than perfect seas. I also like the privacy of the head below. We have fished as many as 8 people on our boat with success. We live in Oklahoma so we chose a boat that would allow us to go fishing even when the seas would be 3 - 5. We also wanted a boat that would safely get us back in, if we got caught in a sudden storm.  

I have owned a few small and large offshore boats, the last being a 36 Topaz. I currently own the Glacier 26' center console. It is by far the best riding boat I have ever owned. I have the big fuel tanks and 150 fitch motors. Most of my fishing is around 60 miles out. I usually tie off to a couple of rigs in addition to trolling. To go from Port A. out and back is about 80 - 90 gallons of fuel. The run out is around 3 hours if seas are 3-4 and 2 hours back. I agree with prior comments about the motors. If possible go with 4 stroke. I haven't had any major trouble with the fitch's but am waiting. BAROQUE  

Glacier bay My buddy Ben has a 26' Glacier Bay and was thinking about moving up a little bit in size. It is an awesome boat and we've caught lots of fish out of it. I believe its a 99 model w/twin 150 Yamahas. You might drop him a line. He goes by the member name Reel Smooth. Adios.  

Mike Fishing with the family is a great plan, and the GB would be a good boat for you and your family. The service at Ronnie’s in AP is the best, really great guys and they'll go out of their way to help you. Check out their web site there is a used GB listed there. Get your kids hooked on fishing close to shore in the summer time when the weathers nice and the fish are biting and it’s a short boat ride. ​  

At The Boat Show I Saw A Cat With Twin Desiels, It Had Like A 600 Mile Range Eliminating The Need For Fuel Bladders. I Would Recommend You Buy The Biggest Model Boat You Can Justify. People Are Always Wishing They Had Bought The Next Largest Model When They Buy Offshore Boats. Anyone Who Gets A Boat With A Non Airconditioned Cabin Is Only Getting Rod Storage In My Opinion. When I Have Been Out On Boats With Ac They Usually Are Still To Hot To Be Comfortable Anyway Or Not Working Etc..  

thanks Sounds like you guys are thinking the glacier is a good boat for my needs. Thanks for the replies. I think the twin vee does not have high enough sides for my kids and I am not sure if anybody makes a bigger cat that I could afford? If thier are any other boats I should look at just let me know. michael  

World cat makes a nice boat as well as pro cat (kat)  

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Glacier Bay 3480 Express Review

• By Dean Travis Clarke
• Updated: September 13, 2004

Glacier Bay 3480 Express BIG

I have a history with Glacier Bay boats. I enjoyed my role as navigator for the famous trip from Hawaii to Midway Island aboard a 26-foot Glacier Bay — 1,350 nautical miles through the mostly uninhabited northwest chain of Hawaiian Islands. I can’t think of any 26-foot monohulls on which I’d want to make that trip. Why? Because Glacier Bay represents one of the smoothest-riding boats on the market today. When we left the north coast of Oahu heading to Honolulu, seas ran 15 to 18 feet. Thankfully, they’d dropped to 12 feet by the time we left Hawaii’s capital heading west. No big deal!

Performance Unlike so many previous Miami Boat Shows, the 2004 event enjoyed calm, balmy weather — great for attendance and most buyer sea trials, but bordering on boring for testing a Glacier Bay.

Don’t equate Glacier Bay cats’ displacement hulls with slow. Our 36-foot 3480 with twin Yamaha 300 HPDIs hit 38.8 mph at 5,600 rpm using 56 gph. I averaged 27 GPH at a 27-mph cruising speed.

Speed doesn’t affect the ride of a Glacier Bay very significantly. Since the hulls cut through water rather than riding atop it, dynamics don’t change much. Slow-trolling in a beam sea generated a rapid but gentle roll moment. However, underway at cruising speed, Glacier Bays exhibit one characteristic that takes some getting used to: For no apparent reason, the boat will heel slightly to one side, then return to its normal attitude. I can’t say this has anything to do with the seas as it happens in calm water, too. Yes, it takes some getting used to, but after crossing 1,400 miles of Pacific Ocean in a Glacier Bay, I can tell you that you soon stop noticing.

Another unusual performance trait manifests in turns. Rather than leaning into a turn like a monohull, the Glacier Bay leans away from the turn. Not so far that you feel insecure, but if you haven’t experienced it, the sensation can be initially unsettling. Suffice it to say, however, that no performance characteristic of this hull poses the slightest danger. Displacement cats just behave differently than monohulls. I promise that the sea-keeping advantages far overshadow the few weirdnesses.

Fishing Our boat sported what Glacier Bay President Larry Graf called a “crow’s nest,” which folds down into the cockpit with the removal of three pins. I suppose it’s for low bridges since I can’t really imagine towing this behemoth.

The Glacier Bay 3480 leaves the factory better equipped for fishing than any model the company has produced before. The cockpit tackle-storage module to port features molded-in space for a remote navigation unit (to show depth or track), a sink, and a lighted, 47-gallon livewell with window. I particularly liked the ingenious articulating tackle boxes in the modules. Six rocket launchers across the back of the hardtop augment two rod holders in each gunwale. You’ll find space for three more rods under each gunwale. I’d personally put more rod holders across the transom as well.

|| |—| | SPECIFICATIONS  ****LOA  36 ft. 6 in. BEAM  13 ft. 3 in. DRAFT  2 ft. 6 in. WEIGHT  12,914 lb.  (w/o power) DEADRISE  Displacement cat FUEL (std.) 300 gal. MAX HP  Twin 300-hp OB MSRP  $270,900  (w/T300-hp Yamaha HPDI)* * * Glacier Bay Catamarans **Monroe, Washington 360-794-0444 www.glacierbaycats.com * * * **Yamaha 300-hp 3.3-Liter HPDI****TYPE  76-deg. V-6 DISPL.  204 cid MAX RPM  5,500 HP/LB RATIO  0.55 FUEL SYSTEM  Direct injection GEAR RATIO  1.75:1 WEIGHT  543 lb. ALT. OUTPUT  50 amps MSRP  $18,750These Yamahas still have the advantage of pumping out big horsepower at considerably less weight than the four-strokes of lesser horsepower.   _Notable Standard Equipment _ -Large livewell -Huge electronics space -Hydraulic racing trim tabs -Recessed bow rail -10-year hull warranty Impressions Glacier Bay makes a point of running its boats on long, long trips to prove their mettle. As cats go, the new 3480 represents the most elegant displacement cat on the market today.| In lieu of a splashwell, the Glacier Bay places a centerline platform that extends aft past the 3480’s engines. The inboard end holds a splashboard of clear, heavy Lucite. Lift the splashboard to keep spray or following seas out, or drop it for access to the very large swim platform (with perimeter rail). This platform also sports a recessed swim ladder, deployable from the water. If you’ve ever had difficulty extending your rod tip or line beyond the outboards when fighting a fish, this design will resolve your problem.

You’ll find the 3480’s cockpit spacious enough for multiple anglers and the boat stable enough to drift-fish even in relatively heavy beam seas. I can’t imagine getting water in the cockpit under any circumstances other than when hosing it down. But with four 2-inch scuppers draining the cockpit, water disappears instantly.

Fish boxes measure more than 9 feet long by 2 feet wide by 18 inches deep. That’s big enough for your conscience to bother you if you ever fill them with fish.

Design and Construction Monohull owners may need to get used to having two belowdecks entrances –one on each side of the bridge deck and both quite elegant with beautiful woodwork, fabrics and joinery. The starboard side’s cabin offers a waist-high twin berth forward and an impressive navigation station. Amidships you’ll find the galley with Corian counters. To port lies a huge queen-sized berth forward with loads of storage and a hanging locker. Walking farther aft and down a couple of steps reveals a beautiful, full head with a sliding, curved shower door and Corian counters.

Glacier has spent years refining the aesthetic aspects of its boats, yet seaworthiness remains the company’s primary focus. Virtually every surface throughout the boat has been gelcoated, as well as skin-coated with vinylester resin to prevent osmosis. In addition to a hand-laid hull with three watertight compartments per sponson, the 3480’s nose receives Kevlar reinforcement. Each boat rides on double bottoms, like many of today’s tankers (though Glacier Bay fills the void between bottoms with foam). You can, with no exaggeration, punch a hole through the outer skin of a 3480 and remain afloat with dry bilges.

Though the cabins may feel slightly narrower than those monohull owners have become used to, this boat’s living spaces are classy and comfortable. Plus, you have enormous storage space everywhere you turn, from underdeck to the hardtop overhead.

The 3480 provides a pair of large sun pads on the bow. The pads move to the L-shaped settee and hi-lo table on the bridgedeck to make yet another double berth “under the stars.” Most owners will prefer to stay aboard than dock at some seaside hotel.

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Buoyancy Issue on 2670 Glacier Bay

Discussion in ' Boat Design ' started by finmanfish , Nov 5, 2013 .

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Hello everyone I am new here and my name is Vince. I own a 2670 Glacier Bay power catamaran fishing boat. I am looking for an elegant way to add maybe 500 lbs of buoyancy to the stern. When we are loaded down for a fishing trip we are submerging the motor wells at rest. Here is a link with photos of the boat. Open to any creative solution. Thanks and look forward to your opinions. https://www.google.com/search?q=gla...tHfSwsATDlYCwCw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=667  

rasorinc Senior Member

Do you have any opening bays in the floor or sidewalls near the transom where you could put rigid stryofoam in?  

DCockey Senior Member

Adding foam internally near the transom will have almost zero effect on " When we are loaded down for a fishing trip we are submerging the motor wells at rest. Here is a link with photos of the boat. " Almost zero effect because the weight added by the foam will push the stern down further. What is needed to keep the motor wells from submerging is added volume near the stern. 500 pounds is 7.8 cubic feet in salt water or 3.9 cubic feet per side. I've heard of hulls being extended aft but have no idea if that is feasible on the OP's boat.  

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It really isn't feasible to add hull extensions. The motors are mounted on the transom, so there is no where to add them. My first thought is you may be overloading the boat from the get go. How much gear and how many people are you putting aboard? Secondly, are you just submerging the transom or the whole boat? If just the transom then you may need to move some of the weight forward to balance the boat out.  

Mr Efficiency Senior Member

OK, you have water sloshing around in the motor wells at rest. That in itself is not a real concern, unless there is a problem with the powerheads being too close to the water, which can be an issue with cats, because the draft is generally greater with the smaller waterline plane area compared to a monohull. However, longer legs on outboards has helped this issue, I had a cat that was built like a brick outhouse, overweight, and water sloshed around in the wells, but the XL shaft engines never drowned. Had they been 20" shaft they almost certainly would have sooner or later, though. I don't see any real prospect of adding 500 lbs of bouyancy aft that is not going to drastically affect the dynamics of the thing underway. What might work better, as Stumble has suggested, is to re-locate some of your extra loading well forward in the boat, that should lift the stern nicely.  

PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

Yep, trim is the issue, not floatation. Trim the boat properly and the problem goes away. The first thing you have to ask is how much of this stuff just has to live in the cockpit and how much can go below. A 100 pound weight 5' forward of the CB will balance you out.  

Move weight forward and it will go better up and running as well. Power cats with too much weight, too far rearward, are unhappy boats.  

Mr Efficiency said: ↑ Move weight forward and it will go better up and running as well. Power cats with too much weight, too far rearward, are unhappy boats. Click to expand...

thanks for the input gentleman. I should tell you all that the problem is fuel load. This boat carries 260 gallons of fuel and the heavy stern happens when we have a full load of fuel. The boat came with 18o gal, 90 on each side then we added 40 extra per side and that caused the problem. we put is as far forward as possible but it wasn't far enough. It would not be easy to arbitrarily but equipment forward to balance it but perhaps a deliberate attempt at counter weighting the bow would be the ticket.  

Counter-weighting with dead weight is not really a sound solution, can you fit a couple of fuel bladders above floor level well forward, and not use the 40 a side ones ?  

Fin, My guess is that you have that boat loaded way past its load limit. I couldn't find the numbers for the 2670, but let's assume its 1,200lbs. By the time you account for the added 480lbs of fuel, plus say 40 lbs for the two new fuel tanks, four people at 180lbs, 100lbs of ice, and 50lbs of fishing tackle, 20lbs of drinks and food, ect... you are sitting at a total load of 1620lbs. I haven't even started a real weight budget, but frankly I think you are grossly overloaded. There isn't a solution to this except removing some weight, either by running with the two tanks empty, leaving people behind, or just going out slower and putting people in the bow until you have used the fuel up.  

Ike Senior Member

I think Stumble has stumbled on the real issue. First you added 40 gallons of fuel which is an additional 240 lb. Then you pack all that other stuff aboard and you far exceed the load capacity of the boat. 260 gallons of fuel is a grand total of 1560 lbs. She was designed for 1300. Adding weight to counterbalance the weight aft would just compound the problem. You need to decide what you can do without, and get rid of 200-300 lbs as far aft as possible to bring the stern up. Oh yeah, get rid of weight and you will get better fuel economy and it will go farther on less fuel.  

No it isn't overloaded. I checked with the factory when I did it. It can do 2200 lbs. I want to add some type of permanent buoyancy in the rear.  

tom28571 Senior Member

finmanfish said: ↑ No it isn't overloaded. I checked with the factory when I did it. It can do 2200 lbs. I want to add some type of permanent buoyancy in the rear. Click to expand...

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messabout Senior Member

Never mind what the factory told you. Surely you don't think the factory would shade the truth The problem is excess weight and improper placement as others have advised. Cats are not particularly burdensome, in fact they are quite sensitive about weight and weight placement.  

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