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Chrysler 22
One of just a few boats ever built by a car company, this trailer sailer still looks good today..
We’re still not sure if there’s a nationwide resurgence of interest in trailer sailers, but judging from the mail we receive, it certainly seems so. One of the used boats often mentioned is the Chrysler 22. It, like the 15′ Man O’War, 15′ Mutineer, 16′ 6″ Musketeer catamaran, 18′ Buccaneer and Chrysler 26 trailerable cruising sloop, were built by Chrysler Corporation’s Marine Products Group in Detroit, Michigan.
According to the BUC Research Used Boat Price Guide, Chrysler first offered recreational boats in 1957, building three aluminum runabouts and cruisers from 16′ to 21′. Its first fiberglass boat was the Caribbean 19′ cruiser in 1958. The Buccaneer was the first sailboat in the Chrysler line, introduced in 1971. The Chrysler 22 appeared in 1975. Just when Chrysler stopped building it is uncertain, but according to BUC, 1979 was the last year; we have not received information from readers owning boats built later than that, so perhaps ’79 was indeed the finale.
Two readers who responded to a 1995 appeal for information on Chrysler sailboat parts agreed that in the mid-80s Chrysler sold the molds and rights to the Starwind Division of Wellcraft Marine in Sarasota, Florida. Wellcraft is a large builder of powerboats. Starwind, according to one reader, “tooled up a more conventional deck mold and evidently sold some boats before it went under. That reader said a former Chrysler employee told him that the assets were purchased by a Brazilian-owned company in Florida which relocated back to Brazil. Another reader says that Wellcraft sold the molds and rights to Spindrift, which sold them to Rebel, which “was in the process of going out of business.” A third reader says it was produced for a time as the TMI 22 (Texas Marine International, which according to yet another source, bought the molds from Chrysler and in turn sold them to Wellcraft). No one seems to know where the molds are today.
The Chrysler 22 was designed by Halsey Herreshoff, now the city manager of Bristol, Rhode Island, the town where Nathaniel Herreshoff built so many great boats at the turn of the century. Halsey has designed a number of interesting boats, including the original hull for the Freedom 40.
The 22 was conceived as a trailer sailer with a swing keel that draws just 1′ 11″ up, though a fixed keel drawing 3′ 9″ also was available.
To maximize interior volume, the deck is more or less flush, though highly cambered. The deck fairs into the cockpit coaming, which leads cleanly into the backrests. There is a partial bridgedeck, unusual for a boat like this. The companionway widens at the coachroof to make cabin access more convenient. A pop top was optional, but these are always prone to leaking; a number of readers said they seldom use theirs.
Somewhat unusual is the inboard rudder, which pivots up for shallow water. There are numerous complaints about its sturdiness; and one reader said it is positioned too far forward.
The mast is mounted on a hinge and an early ad says there is a mast carrier to “make rigging simple.”
The boat displaces anywhere from 2,650 lbs. to 3,000 lbs. (depending on which brochure you believe), a bit heavier than most trailer sailers of this length. The Catalina 22, for example, displaces 1,850 lbs., the O’Day 22 and Venture 22 both 1,800 lbs. Ballast is 725 lbs., which is a lot of weight to carry in a swing keel.
Construction
The hull is of hand-laid fiberglass with a full inner liner. Foam flotation was standard. One owner said the core is Nomex; this is an aircraft honeycomb that achieved some notoriety for its use in the Stiletto 27 catamaran. Airex coring was reported by another owner. The owner of a 1977 model said the “deck has a brown water soluble glue throughout, that when it rains seeps into the cabin.”
While owners rate quality of construction as above average to excellent, a number of problems were cited in our questionnaires. These include leaks at the keel pivot pin, broken rudders (the original rudderstocks and cheeks were aluminum, the former being hollow; some have been replaced with stainless), weak spreaders, and poor quality turnbuckles.
One owner replaced the bulkheads, which seems like a rather extreme measure. “The factory bulkheads are probably strong enough,” he said, “but I replaced all of them with much heavier material.”
On the plus side, nearly all agree that the hull is heavily laid up, and that the spars are larger sections than one would expect on a boat of this size. Fittings were said to be of satisfactory quality. The trailer supplied by Chrysler is only adequate; a number of owners said it would be better to buy a heavier-duty trailer elsewhere. A double-axle trailer with brakes is recommended.
In the October 1, 1995 issue, we published under “Spare Parts” a source for some Chrysler parts, given to us by Hooper’s Yachts, 599 Manning Ave. S., Afton, MN 55001; 612/436-8795.
Bill Hooper said that his yard has worked on many Chrysler boats over the years, and has found some parts from Cardinal Yachts, Rte. 3, Box 1080, Gloucester, VA 23061.
Performance
Many owners report that light air performance is not exactly sparkling, attributing this to the boat’s relatively heavy displacement. The sail area/displacement ratio of 16.5 isn’t bad, however. In fact, owners spacious who bought larger genoas (up to 170%) report significant increases in sailing speeds.
In terms of stability, initial tenderness was a frequent comment, though ultimate stability was not a concern. The boat is claimed to be self-righting, even with the keel up. “Goes to about 22 degrees quickly, then stops. Cannot put rail under,” said one owner. The few owners of fixed keel models noted how much stiffer their boats are than the swing keel models.
To get the most out of the boat, owners suggest playing with the keel angle (which helps minimize weather helm) and installing the usual sail handling devices: larger boom vang, down haul, better quality traveler and so on. Several said that the keel was not faired particularly well, and that grinding it smooth and fair produces a noticeable improvement in performance.
The same was said about converting to mid-boom sheeting.
In summary, the boat performs best in moderate winds, and by using the various controls available, it will balance reasonably well and sail at average speeds.
Auxiliary power is furnished by an outboard mounted on the transom bracket. Models mentioned include Honda 5 and 10, Johnson 6 and 9.9, Seagull 5, Chrysler 6 and 10, and Evinrude 9.9., all long shafts. The separate, sealed tank compartment is much admired. Remote controls are regarded as a great convenience as well as a safety feature.
The basic plan provides for a V-berth forward, convertible dinette to port and a berth/settee to starboard, which may be occupied at times by the optional slide out galley. The $375 cost of the galley unit was considered overpriced by at least one respondent.
Some have made their own.
The partial bulkheads give a sense of spaciousness, which is important in a small boat with just sitting headroom. The centerboard trunk is not too tall, but does have an effect on moving around. A few owners said they thought that the cockpit suffered at the expense of the interior; the tiller extends to the bridgedeck, meaning that everybody in the cockpit will be in the way of the helmsman.
As mentioned earlier, there is a full inner liner or pan that predetermines the location and use of most spaces. Nevertheless, many owners report customizing the interior. Most often mentioned is the making of their own galley module. A few have raised the bridgedeck to the cockpit seat level. A few have upgraded the electrical panel.
The large V-berth is an attractive feature, and probably worth the absence of a private head (a portable toilet is located underneath). The sloping deck does diminish headroom forward, however.
The Chrysler 22 is still much admired for its clean lines and good looks. The option list, as with many small boats of its day, was long: pulpits and lifelines, galley and water tank, portable cooler, outboard bracket, toilet, curtains, backstay adjuster, running lights, mainsail cover, cushions, boom vang and more. Presumably, most used boats on the market today have these “accessories.”
We have always enjoyed customizing our boats, but do so with extreme caution, because when it comes time to sell (and every boat is sold sooner or later), it could be difficult finding a buyer who likes the reclino-lounge chair and navigation table you’ve installed in place of the dinette! We’d be wary of buying a boat with oddball “upgrades.”
The area of most concern with the Chrysler 22 is the rudder and rudderstock; if it still has the original hollow aluminum stock, we’d plan on replacing it. This probably will require some custom metalwork from a shop.
One should be able to buy a Chrysler 22 for somewhere between $4,000 and $5,000, depending on condition and equipment, the trailer and motor being the two most important pieces of extra gear. For an introduction to the joys of cruising, we think it’s one of the better mid-70s trailer sailers, though we’d also take a good look at a couple of other boats: the Tanzer 22 and O’Day 23.
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Cardinal Yachts, Harry Sindle was building the Mutineer and Buccaneer in Ware Neck Virginia in the early 90’s I also saw a few Rhodes 22’s and Hamptons.
Does the Chrysler 22 have a drain plug? I’m looking at one that’s been sitting for several years, water about 6” over the floor.
1. Get a siphon hose placed low in the boat and draw out the water into the low end of the cockpit. 2. Get a half gallon plastic water pitcher. Sit inside the cabin with your feet in the water and begin bailing into the cockpit. 3. Get a small 12 volt bilge pump or baitwell pump and drop it into the water.
Hi All, I bought a C-22 a few years ago, the water in the bottom was from the swing keel fittings leaking. I would recommend replacing the fittings and pin, don’t worry the fittings are made of pipe flange & fittings. Also to prevent keel klunk and the keel wearing thru the hull i used a nylon cutting board to fill the gap on each side of the swing pin. using 3M 4200 adhesive its worked fine. the adhesive needs to be used once its opened so have everything cut and fitted. I just got on this site today, our long winter at lake Superior has tested my patience……I’ve also started a u-tube channel with some random vidieos, I promise to have more instructional vidieos this year including the sail pack and new solar panel installation i made “Sailing Lake Superior George Kramer”
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Buccaneer 220
The buccaneer 220 is a 22.5ft fractional sloop designed by gary mull and built in fiberglass by bayliner (buccaneer/us yachts) since 1978..
The Buccaneer 220 is a light sailboat which is a good performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
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| Length | 22.50 ft | ||
| Beam | 7.92 ft | ||
| Draft | 3 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
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| Sail area / displ. | 18.05 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 38.78 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 153.33 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 11.89 | ||
| Capsize | 2.35 |
| Hull type | Monohull fin keel with transom hung rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 19.25 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 3 ft | ||
| Displacement | 2450 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 950 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 5.88 knots |
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| Rigging | Fractional Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 205 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
| Sail area fore | 109.56 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 95 sq.ft | ||
| I | 24.90 ft | ||
| J | 8.80 ft | ||
| P | 25 ft | ||
| E | 7.60 ft |
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| Designer | Gary Mull | ||
| First built | 1978 | ||
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Why I prefer the Buccaneer
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Harry Sindle was a designer, boat builder and champion dinghy sailor. In the Flying Dutchman Class he is 6-time US National Champion, Gold Medal winner at the 1959 Pan Am games, and US Olympic representative in 1960.
Sindle was also is a 3-time National Champion in the 18-foot Buccaneer class , which was designed in 1966 and includes similar stylings to the 20-foot Flying Dutchman. The Buc continues on today, and while the class is small in numbers, it’s not for a lack of love. Here’s how Sindle described the boat:
I first sailed the Buccaneer in 1984 when Gloucester Yachts, a company I was managing at the time, purchased the Buccaneer molds from Wellcraft (Starwinds). I had long admired the boat over the years, so when we the chance to make them I was very pleased.
A few years later, when I was no longer with Gloucester Yachts, I thought enough of the Buc to buy the molds so I could continue my association with the boat and the class.
I have sailed, raced, built, or owned most of the similar sized boats that are being sailed today. Therefore my opinion regarding the Buc may have merit.
Some of the more popular monohulls in the 14- to 20-foot range with which I have had personal sailing experience include the Albacore, Comet, Thistle, Lightening, Flying Dutchman, Mobjack, Hampton, Finn, Jet 14, Mutineer, Windmill, Highlander, International 14, Snipe, Laser, and 5O5.
Of all the boats I’ve sailed, the Buccaneer represents the best and most sensible design which is suitable for both day sailing and racing. While not a beginner’s boat, it is forgiving enough so that one quickly becomes comfortable with it. At the same time, it is a good enough performer so one doesn’t tire of it.
It is a fine daysailer, with its comfortable cockpit arrangement and roller furling jib. It is also easy to race by two people with its spinnaker launcher, sensible-size jib, and well-designed hull.
Finally, it is a very attractive design, with its contemporary styling, rakish boat, and well-balanced sailplan. And who wants a boat that is not pretty to look at.
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Don''t believe the scuttlebutt about these great boats unless you''ve heard it from someone who has one. They are NOT any more tender than most other boats their size in senseable conditions. They are a great value for the size in a coastal cruiser. Sure, they have their share of the SAME PROBLEMS ANY 20 YEAR OLD BOAT WILL HAVE. Find out more at www.geocities.com/buccaneersailboats
We love our 305! We refitted her and are currently cruising. After living on her 7 years she will carry us well the next 4 years. But as with anything in life your skills should go hand in hand with the equipment. S/V Ka-Em-Te
There are Buccaneers and then there are Bucaneers. Some are at least designs from recognized and well regarded designers. The 305 (Bill Garden), the 22 and 25 (they became the US22/US 25 -Gary Mull designs) and the 295 and 33 (Doug Peterson) at least have decent pedigrees. The shoal draft/high freeboard 21/24/etc are simply scary boats (IMO of course) But hey, whatever gets you out there!
A seven year old thread resurrected! This must be a record.
parkmanm said: Aside from that--she's actually in pretty good shape. Also--since I am living in a fairly un-sailboat area, does anyone know of sailmakers who either have or make sails for this boat? The sails appear to be in ok condition, but there are only two. Since the wind can get pretty light on Pend Oreille, I need to get a big Jenny for her. Is it possible to rig this boat with roller reefing? Click to expand...
Welcome to Sailnet! I'm not going to flame you for reviving this thread. check out the Buccaneer MSN group or Bayliner sailboats or the Bayliner owners club good luck! and enjoy your boat
Protest of ignorant replies.... I was looking up Bayliner sailboats to see if I could find the one my family had when I was much younger and came upon this post and the ignorance of the negative posts.. The other person who was writing tried to convince others what a horrible sailboat this was and I really have to disagree, so I registered to do so. The Buccaneer 240 my family had was very safe, in fact Velger Marine where the sailboat was purchased took one out on Lake St. Clair (MI) during a horrible storm and TRIED to sink it because of it's reputation and for testimonial. They couldn't achieve this endevor and knew going in it wasn't going to happen, but wanted to prove to customers how safe it was. My family and I were on the way from Sandusky OH back to MI in the middle of Lake Erie and a storm came on very fast! There was only my step-father, my mother and myself (a twelve year old scrawny girl) and although it was quite frightening we made it through unscathed. The only part of the storm that could have been hazardous was when the storm passed we had gotten dangerously close to a little island that we were lucky enough not to run aground, as we could not see anything except the buckets of water coming down. I would never hesitate to set sail on a Bayliner Buccaneer and hope the people with misinformation don't scare away others from doing so! Thanks for your time!
Well I don't resurrect old threads but since this one is here today.... I have a 74' Bucc 240. The bad rep for Buccs started when one sank in very suspect conditions...overloaded to the point of danger as the retractable keel on that model allows water in if you are low enough in the water, that and a wind/wave condition, and no pfd's on the kids, alcohol, etc.These people sunk themselves. Most all other testimonials are positive. Also the Bucc site at MSN was shut down, we are now at BaylinerBuccaneerGroup : Bayliner Buccaneer Group
To chinatiger1763 -- just how heavy is a Bayliner Buccaneer 240? We've bought one used and were told 4000 lbs., but it looks heavier, and we're worried about towing it with our Chevy Trailblazer.
I recently bought a Bayliner Buccaneer 210, and we have been very happy with it. It seems to be in excellent shape for a 31 year old boat. We were out a few days ago and got stuck in a storm with steady 25mph winds with gusts up to 40mph and had no problem keeping her upright.
new to site and have not figured out how to post new thread--but do have a question on bayliner buccaneer----is the keel removable?
does anyone know if the keel can be removed on a 210?
Do you have photos? Should be easy to tell.
thank you for the response, i did get my question answered, sounds like more than i want to get into right now--but, seeing as this is a buccaneer page....there is a 210 for sale on craigslist for 950 (portland or.)---not mine, and nothing wrong with keel ( I'm working on another crazy idea)
Crazy ideas are only crazy if they don't work and you keep trying the same idea over and over. If they work, then you may just have a stoke of GENIUS! Have FUN! O'
Hi everyone, I am looking for Bayliner BUccaneer 24 rigging specs. Anybody got any info on this boat would be appreciated. Thanks
BUCCANEER 240 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
Just bought my first boat, BUccaneer 24. Looking for rigging specs and manual. Anybody have a lead on these items? Thank you.
I pulled my manual off the internet
Thank you. Will give it a look see.
thought I’d resurrect this post one more time
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I have become friends with a guy who is looking for a boat. He first called about my old S2, which was already gone. Has found a Bucaneer 30, which looks pretty good in the pics, and has a ton of equipment. Anyone have any experience with or know anything about build quality on these boats. Seems to me that it was built by Bayliner, who bought out Chrysler. But I have now developed CRS, and just don't remember.
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I too have been diagnosed with CRS If its the boat I am thinking about, it is not a well built boat and looks kinda like an easter egg. If there are any bucaneer owners out there, I sure hope I am remembering the wrong boat. Reminds me of a joke. A guy walks into a psychiatrist's office dressed like a pirate. You know, the hat, the eye patch, the whole deal. Anyway, the psychiatrist asks him "And what are you supposed to be?". The man replies "I'm a pirate". The psychiatrist then asks "If you are a pirate , where are your bucaneers?" and the man replies "right under my buckin' hat" Tony B
Chrysler maybe I think the Buccaneer sailboats were built by Chrysler. I have no idea whether this is K-car famed Chrysler or not. Seems to me that maybe they had this grand plan of building boats and installing inboard motors (yeah, its got a hemi!) and then branched into sailboats.
Memories.... Yes: Chrysler made a Buccaneer. It was a day sailor. I had one. Bayliner made a line of Buccaneer sailboats in two generations. The first were big trailerable boats. They had max interior room and and a shoal keel. They did look a little inflated, but probably had an undeserved rap as to quality. Mostly it was about looks and pointing ability (pointing like a blimp). However, the 30-ish models were a whole different ballgame as with most manufacturers and should not be thought of the same way as the trailerables as they had a whole different design objective, even if there was a family resemblance. Then, there was a second generation of Buccaneers which had IOR hulls of a then-contemporary design. They were reasonably fast even with the IOR pinched ends and were a hansom boat of the era. At least, that's what I think I remember. Rick D.
This boat is This boat is a 1977 Bucaneer 305. Says it is a Bill Garden design.
Check Yahoo Images ...there is a line drawing and a couple for sale with photos. Looks like a decent enough boat with a decent enough builder but looks best suited to shoal water given the smallish keel and rudder.
Joseph Shirley
The Buccaneer 30 that I knew was not the one with the IOR pinched ends and it was a terrible performer. It was under canvassed, slow, tender, and quick to round up in a breeze. It had a lot of headroom and nice accommodations but even under power it had a lot of freeboard. We had one in my club owned by an old couple who would only come down and sit on it. He wanted a sailboat and she didn't want to sail so they never went anywhere. If I remember correctly they have a shoal draft keel that was placed well aft. I think they were designed with a large lee helm to balance the weather couple which tended to produce weather helm and round them up. If your friend wants a boat that sails reasonably well, to have some sailing fun with, I would say don't buy it. Good Luck Joe S
How much$ I owned a Buccaneer 21 for about 10 years back in the 80's. I sailed it only on the bay. I remember for it's size it had a huge amount of room inside (bigger than some 25 footers). It was a heavy boat which I liked, it could handle the weather on the bay. Agreed it wasn't the best sailing boat but it served my needs at the time. I thought it was put together pretty well, I never had any problems. If your friend is getting it dirt cheap and has no plans to race, it might be a good buy. But remember if he wants to move up it will be a hard boat to sell.
Bayliner Buccaneer Bayliner began building sail boats during the gas crunch of the 70's. The first models were 'Butt' ugly (lots of windows, and looked like a power boat morphed into a sail boat). Their designs eventually evolved into the IOR design mentioned by Rick, and were eventually bought by US Yachts who produced them into the 80's. I always liked the look of the US Yachts 25. The Buccaneer's had typical Bayliner quality.
Buccaneer 18 Let's not forget the Buccaneer 18, a super fast planing hull daysailor made by Chrysler. I had one for my first boat. They also made a 15 foot version. I think it was called the Privateer.
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horrid boat...It's a big floating Clorox bottle nm
never seen a clorox bottle sail... I don't know about the buccaneers...but having had my boat analogized to a clorox bottle, even though it outsails many other more expensive production boats in most conditions (5-15 winds; and does pretty damn good after that reefed)), has gotten me to many a beautiful anchorage and has been so good to me I will be a sailor for the rest of my life...I have become a bit vigilant in busting this absurd, innapropriate, exaggerated at best analogy.
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bio, it's real simple It's not necessarily the boat, it's the sailor. I know folks that could sail a bar of soap and win. It's the same with any machinery, some have, some don't. I will agree, the Bayliner Buccaneer is NOT my cup of tea but then, neither are a few boats.
The Buccaneer This is a dog with fleas. Short stumpy mast: too shallow draft: too much freeboard: Linolium on the floors. Made by Bayliner. Later on they made a line of IOR boats called US yachts that were better. They sold the molds to pearson sometime in the mid 80`s Avoid the buc.
Chris Burti
even ugly babies... ...are loved by somebody... Information abounds...From the 48 Degrees North website, I quote: Bayliner/U.S. Yacht Website Please advise your readers that information on the Bayliner Buccaneer and U.S. Yacht series of sailboats is available at a non-commercial website. The address is www.geocities.com/buccaneersailboats. While everyone may have different priorities (speed, handling vs. floating condo) and different budgets, we all love the water. The website features specs, photos, projects, and a registry where viewers can read comments, both good and bad, by the people who own and sail Buccaneers. As a 285 owner, I enjoy the roominess of a center cockpit, the safety, reliability and economy of a diesel, and the creature comforts of a larger boat, in a vessel that is easily financially accessable. Sure, I may not be the first one around the marks on race day, but when I am anchored off that beautiful secluded beach, I may be the only one. With a draft of three feet I can get to the unspoiled treasures of skinny water that most guys can't. I would be happy to include a link to your magazine. It is a joy to read. I would appricate a reciprocal link in your associations section for the Bayliner Buccaneer. Fair winds, Jollymon Jeff, Webmaster Buccaneer's Homeport
I followed the link... ...in the previous post and it contains a Practical Sailor review of the 295 and 305. Based upon perusing that, I'd say that the prospective owner should be aware that the hull to deck joint bears close inspection as it is secured with screws every six inches and not through bolted. My last boat, a Lancer 25, was constructed in this fashion and a previous owner had obviously done some work on it...probably removing the toe rail, re-sealing (leaking is a big issue with a weak joint), and then resecuring it. In some cases, it was obvious that larger screws had been used. The aft keel placement is odd, but the four foot draft isn't too unusual for a shoal draft boat. My Lancer had an odd wide keel that you actually walked inside when you were in the cabin. The prospective owner just has to accept that he is going to point a little less closely to the wind that everybody else. Is that the end of the world? It depends. For the price ($1000) I was very happy with my Lancer, but I kind of outgrew her. The limited cabin space was a big issue that your friend won't face as the 305 is quite roomy. Was the upwind performance frustrating? Yes, but it equated to probably one bout of frustration every other year. Once I tried to tack out of the harbor directly into the wind with very limited success. I ultimately gave up. The other times were mostly in light air, but hey, I was / am fairly inexperienced. As someone said, some people could sail a bar of soap better than others could sail a J105. I'd say that if the price is right, she is well equiped and the survey is pretty clean...go for it...but recognize that resale will be more challenging than for more popular models. My approach was a little different. I really wanted a keeper this time. Something built well enough to restore and sail until I wear out the hull. I was amazed at how poorly maintained many 30 footers in the 10-15K range were so I ended up spending more money in the hopes of avoiding major repairs. What I learned is that a good deal is a different thing to different people. Bob
Pretttty funnnnny tony under me buckin t'ree pinter mate! Yeah, dunno much but had one for a neighbor for a couple years in Gas House Cove SF. A bit of a drinker, the fellow had this Bucaneer up for ssil for several years. He would charge folks 75.00 ( I think) for "testing" her out and would do many of his tests per day as he would get backpacker touristas from the international hostel up the hill interested in 'buying' his Buccaneer. I remember it being a very roomy livaboard for him, had a nice bar, chess set and was a really fun kinda colorful character and spoke seereeusly of his tests too. Not much of a race/sailboat but okay to have fun in the bay with, and why knot hey? I am agreeing with bffcat, still....all of us are entitled to have fun sailing the bay, even non-sailors who cannot afford a Hansy or a Hylas.
Capt Ron!!! How you be? I'm offshore this week, at work. Have some spare time to play on internet, but not a lot. I know you have crossed the gulf a time or two, have you ever been over Mississipppi Canyon? Lots of very very large sea life here. Tony B
about the 305 1977 bucaneer hi my name is monte and I'm the guy who was thinking of this buccaneer I found on ablboats.com. the boat is loaded and very roomy and everything Iv'e wanted. I'm not that big on looks as long as comfort and most of all dependable. The picture of the boat makes a guy wonder the way the rudder has a 3 inch gap. The people are the original owners and lived on it for 22 years in the bahamma's. So what do you think sir?
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US 22 is a 22 ′ 0 ″ / 6.7 m monohull sailboat designed by Gary Mull and built by Bayliner (Buccaneer/US Yachts) starting in 1979.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
Similar to the BUCCANEER 220. Derived from the RANGER 22. Later it became the TRITON 22 (built by Pearson Yachts). Available with a fixed keel, (deep and shoal), as well as a swing keel version.
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Bayliner (Buccaneer/US Yachts) Founded by J. Orin Edson who had been a dealer for small powerboats and motors since 1955. At some point he purchased the Bayliner name and began building sailing craft around 1970. It is said that Bayliner, which historically, had been a manufacturer of power boats, got in to the sailboat business in response the ...
The US Yachts US 22 is an American trailerable sailboat, that was designed by Gary Mull and first built in 1979.. The US 22 is a development of the 1977 Ranger 22 and the Buccaneer 220 of 1978, both Mull designs. The US 22 design was later developed into the Triton 22 and built by Pearson Yachts starting in 1985.
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The Buccaneer 220 is a 22.5ft fractional sloop designed by Gary Mull and built in fiberglass by Bayliner (Buccaneer/US Yachts) since 1978. The Buccaneer 220 is a light sailboat which is a good performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
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Has anybody seen a Bock Buccaneer 22 foot sailboat? Do you know where it is? I used to own one. There are two pictures attached. One was taken in the late 1960's sailing on the Bay of Green Bay. The second picture was taken after I modified the cabin, and painted it white. I sold it around 2000-2001. I am looking for it if it is still around.
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19468 posts · Joined 2005. #3 ·Feb 17, 2008. There are Buccaneers and then there are Bucaneers. Some are at least designs from recognized and well regarded designers. The 305 (Bill Garden), the 22 and 25 (they became the US22/US 25 -Gary Mull designs) and the 295 and 33 (Doug Peterson) at least have decent pedigrees.
Bayliner Buccaneer Bayliner began building sail boats during the gas crunch of the 70's. The first models were 'Butt' ugly (lots of windows, and looked like a power boat morphed into a sail boat). Their designs eventually evolved into the IOR design mentioned by Rick, and were eventually bought by US Yachts who produced them into the 80's.
109.56 sq ft (10.178 m 2) Total sail area. 204.56 sq ft (19.004 m 2) Racing. PHRF. 237 (average) [ edit on Wikidata] The Buccaneer 220 is an American trailerable sailboat, designed by Gary Mull and first built in 1978. The design is now out of production.
North Carolina. $1,700. Description: 1978 Bayliner Buccaneer 23' Sailboat for sale. Fractional sloop, beam: 7.92', draft:3.00', disp: 2450 lbs, hull type: fin w/ transom hung rudder. Boat is in overall good condition with some minor cosmetic blemishes and wear that comes with age. Hawk eye depth finder working, but other electrical in boat does ...
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Bayliner Buccaneer 22, sailboats for sale. 1975 Bayliner Buccaneer 22, Manitowoc, Wisconsin, asking $2,500, ad expired: Home: ... Sails: Scam Warnings: Texas Lakes: Advertise with us: Contact: Free Sailboat Ad: Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . New ad 4/07/03 Beam 7'11" Draft 4'1" Weight 2450 lbs 9.9 hp Evinrude ...
Similar to the BUCCANEER 220. Derived from the RANGER 22. Later it became the TRITON 22 (built by Pearson Yachts). Available with a fixed keel, (deep and shoal), as well as a swing keel version. Shoal keel draft: 2.58ft. Swing keel draft: BU: 2.42ft; BD: 5.75ft. Photo courtesy of Adam Hunt.
Description: Marine-N-Machine presents this beautiful, RARE 1973 Century Buccaneer 22 foot inboard/outboard boat. These are the "Thoroughbred" boats, a TRUE Century. Century began to turn to 'glass in the late 60s, starting with the Buccaneer line. These boats were available in both inboard and I/O models from 18 feet up to 24 feet.
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4.00 ft / 1.22 m: Construction: FG: First Built: 1978: Builder: Bayliner Marine Corp (USA) ... The BUCCANEER 277 is thought to be the same but with an inboard diesel engine (Volvo). ... Camden, Maine, 1997), states that a boat with a BN of less than 1.3 will be slow in light winds. A boat with a BN of 1.6 or greater is a boat that will be ...