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Olympic Carter 39 Boat for Sale

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• Manufacturer: Olympic
• Location: Polruan
• LOA: 39'0" (11.89m)
• Beam: 12' 9'' (3.89m)
• Draft: 2.06
• Keel: Displacement
• ID no.: 1011311
• Heating: N/A
• Watertank Size: 189 Litres
• Engine Make: Beta Marine
• Horsepower: 35hp
• Drive Type: Shaft drive
• Fuel Type: Diesel
• Fuel Tank Size: 114 Litres
• Cruise Speed: 6 Knots
• Top Speed: 7.5 Knots

Broker Remarks

Brokers Comments: This Carter 39 is a proven offshore racer/cruiser; she has been in the same ownership since 1980 and has been well maintained throughout those years; she is built to a high standard, with safety and comfort in mind. The owner has upgraded the boat throughout his ownership; the most notable upgrade is the Beta Marine 35hp diesel engine in 2010 and some new electronics more recently.  Owners Comment: Peter Carter commissioned April Magic, designed by Dick Carter and built by Olympic Yachts of Greece as a contender for the 1973 Admirals Cup. I purchased her in 1980 after she competed in the notorious 1979 Fastnet without damage; I continued to race with RORC or offshore until 1990, including two further Fasnets and winning the Frederick Morgan Trophy. This was interspaced with cruising and family holidays on board. I then raced her to Cadiz in Spain, cruised the western end of the Mediterranean, sailed to the Canary Islands, sailed to the West Indies, returned via Bermuda; The Azoresand returned to the UK. April Magic is an eye-catching, fast to windward and very safe displacement boat. She has given us 30 years of fantastic fast, safe and comfortable racing/cruising.

Accommodation

Sleeps 7 in two cabins which include the saloon Forward double berth cabin with an offset double berth to port Heads just aft of the forward cabin Saloon with port and starboard single berths as well as two higher single sea berths U-shaped galley to starboard with a double stainless steel sink, Isotherm refrigerator, Neptune 2000 two-burner gas hob, grill, oven & ample storage above and below the worksurface Forward-facing chart table to port Large single quarter berth aft of the chart table to port

Mechanical and Rigging

Construction: Built in 1973 by Olympic Yachts Greece Designed by Dick Carter GRP hull deck & superstructure Deep lead fin keel Skeg hung rudder Single wheel steering Mechanics:  Beta Marine 35hp diesel engine (Replaced/New 2010)  lever morse engine control Shaft driven Three-blade fixed-pitch bronze propellor Electrics: 12V 90ah battery 12V 95ah battery Isolated via rotary switches Charging from the engine alternator Two x voltmeters Tankage: Freshwater capacity 227 litres in 2 stainless steel tanks Fuel capacity 68 litres in a single stainless steel Water System:  Coldwater system Hot water from engine calorifier Manual & pressurised system Rigging: Masthead rig Proctor aluminium spars Single spreader rig Stainless steel standing rigging (replaced 2003) Terylene running rigging Rod kicker Slab reefing Profurl genoa furling system Lewmar 16 mast winch Sails: Mainsail Genoa No 2 jib No 4 jib Spinnaker x 3 Storm jib Tri sail

Navigation Aids: In The Cockpit; Clipper Wind speed & direction  Clipper close-hauled wind Clipper depth B&G speed Steering compass Robertson Simrad 300X autopilot At The Chart Table; Garmin echomap 45DV chartplotter (New 2019) Icom Class B AIS transponder MA-500TR (New 2018) Icom IC-M323G GPS, DSC, VHF radio (New 2018) Ground Tackle: CQR anchor Chain & warp Vetus Manual anchor windlass Stainless steel bow roller Deck Gear: Flush decks with Flexi Teak on the side decks & cockpit 6 x Lewmar 43 two speed  halyard/control line winches 2 x Lewmar 55 three-speed primary sheet winches 2 X Lewmar 45 three-speed secondary sheet winches  Coachroof clutches and cam cleats port & starboard Coachroof mounted mainsheet traveller Genoa tracks with adjustable cars port & starboard Double stainless steel sheet cheek blocks port & starboard (all blocks are stainless steel and of excellent quality) Spinnaker & Jib pole fordeck cradles Barlow Australia 24 coachroof control line winch Stainless steel pulpit, pushpit and stanchions  Port & starboard single footlock blocks with lockoff  Deck mounted anchor cradle 2 x opening deck hatches Mooring cleats & fairleads  Safety Equipment: All Safety equipment listed is included in the sale but the vendor offers no warranties The purchaser must service the safety equipment and ensure that it is appropriate for his purposes and check expiry and service dates on all items! ACR EPIRB Horseshoe lifebuoy Danbuoy Navigation lights  Emergency Navigation lights Henderson manual bilge pumps x 2 Gas alarm Fire extinguishers Fire blanket Smoke alarm  Equipment:  Canvas sprayhood Canvas stackpack with lazyjacks Mooring warps & fenders

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• Thread starter sealeaf
• Start date 21 Jan 2006
• 21 Jan 2006

Am thinking of buying a Carter 39, built in 82 by Olympic Marine, not much info about on it ! Can anyone help with good, or bad views ? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif  

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Well I've got a Carter 33 (3/4 tonne) at the moment. Good strong hull, fine sea boat, handles well, very forgiving when you cock things up. I'd recomend one. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Buy the way, mine is for sale £25K ONO. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Fully refitted in July 2004 by Dickies, sail away with no major worries for the next couple of years. PM me if you want further info on it. We've bought a Gitana 43 and are fitting it out for a RTW cruise. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif  

Thanks for reply Aberman, your boat sounds good, but we need the space to live on for 4 months/year, now that lv'e got you!.. do you normally have a back stay tensioner on a mast head rig? thought they were used to bend the mast on fractionally rigged boats.?  

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Hey, we've got a Carter 3/4 tonner as well.... we have a backstay tensioner, and a babystay tensioner.... it can still bend the mast if you have the stays set up properly.... Dick Carter did design fast boats (as evidenced by his results over the years), and they tended to be good sea boats, so whiler I don't know the 39, there's a fair chance that she'll sail well......  

We had a Hydraulic backstay with ours but I took it off, I didn't think it was realy going to affect performance unless we were racing. But as we don't race, I didn't see the point of keeping it on. Just 1 more thing for the kids to play with, and loosen at the wrong time /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. Ours is/was the all signing, all dancing racing version, which has converted in to comfatable family cruiser (2 adults & 2 children). We tend to live aboard ours for most of the summer, and have plenty of room. Even bring 2 Black Lab's sometimes, but its crowded then. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif  

Ours isn't hydraulic, they are wheels, but I too am thinking of removing them as well... PS... ours is the race version as well (the 3/4 tonner as opposed to the 33), and we are doing much the same, converting her to a cruiser..... albeit a quick one!  

Go for it!!! Ours is the 33 foot 3/4 tonne class racing version. See Alard Coles Heavy Weather Sailing for her sister ship, We have the original 'Ariadne', not the one in the photo. Different cockpit on ours, and it still floats. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif You won't be dissapointed, we aren't. A great family boat, and a very fast cruiser. Albeit one with a deep draft (well for West Wales coast far to deep). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif  

We still have the Baby Stay fitted, and tensioned. When set up correctly, and my wife not on board goes like sh*t off shiney shovel. Saying that we still get 7-8kts out of her with the family on board, but average 6-7 generally. We put a new loose footed main on her last summer and a 150% genoa, she flies now. If only she was 10 feet bigger I'd keep her for our RTW.  

Thanks for all your replies, looks like lv'e got to go for it!!!!  

I don't know the 39 (are you sure it is a 39?) but I know the 33 and 37 built by Olympic Marine to be really trustworthy boats. I almost bought a 33 6 years ago but he was asking too much (14,000 euros with an almost useless engine and an interior that needed a lot of work). I would circumnavigate on this boat though!  

[ QUOTE ] I don't know the 39 (are you sure it is a 39?) [/ QUOTE ]There was a 39... in fact there were Carter 30, Carter 33, Carter 36, Carter 37, Carter 39, Carter 40 & Carter 42...... all very similar in style....  

Thanks for yr reply GLYKa, yes its a 12m, by olympic marine, looks like they didn't make many !  

I have had a carter 30 - first boat - awesome handling, fine sea boat. You will not regret, dick carter knows how to design. Build was super. - had so much fun....  

I have a Carter 39 built by Olympic Yachts in 1974. She is a beauty. She is flat decked, with twin steeing wheels, two cockpits, all seats facing forward. 14 winches and weighs 12tonnes. She has 5ft 10 head room throughout and bunks for 7. Of course I am biased but a lot of people compliment me on her looks and obvious strength. I have photo's of you wish to see.  

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OK I will bite. How is it different from modern boats , AWB's, I appreciate it may sail well but if its so good why don't manufacturers build something similar now. I am not qualified to criticise the Carter but would like to better understand what good features have been lost and what gained with progress. Is it all only about interior volumn and beam at the expense of sailing ability on modern boats - yet beam gives greater form stability. Currently wading through Steve Killings Yacht Design book and better understanding the compromises in any design. I know this thread is only complimentary about the Carter range and not implying criticism better as other threads have done on AWB's nor do I want to detract from this thread but I would like to better understand what is good about older designs and do have difficulty in understanding why all modern manufacturers insist on building yachts that don't seem to include these features.  

[ QUOTE ] why all modern manufacturers insist on building yachts that don't seem to include these features [/ QUOTE ] Thick hulls and strong expensive fittings? I don't know... Maybe because those days boats were built for people that liked sailng whereas todays boats are built for families that like cruising /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif  

My Carter 39 has a hull which is nearly 2inches thick. Fiberglas, wood, fibreglass, wood Fiberglas. The chain plates from the shrouds are 8inch wide and over two feet long, glassed and bolted to the hull. She was designed to sail fast and strong and then they fitted the accommodation in around that hull shape. Many modern boats design process starts with an interior designer and then have a hull fitted around the 3 double cabins and gin cabinet, with a mast stuck roughly in the middle as an after thought. I believe fibreglass was a lot cheaper prior to the oil crisis in the mid 70's so yacht builders didn’t skimp additionally builders were unaware of the true strengths of fibreglass at that time as it was a relatively new medium to build with so over built. Additionally they built boats to last back then where as these days people are used to a new disposable lifestyle and don’t expect anymore from their modern yachts. I agree with Glyka that modern boats are marketed towards the cruising family. I would expect that modern designs and materials have greatly improved since the 70’s but are maybe crippled by the economics of a very competitive market place and the changing expectations of the customer. I met a man last year with a brand new £400,000 Beneteau who had a night mare with his new purchase, the galley fell off the hull, mid sail, he put his foot through the floor of his en-suite shower, wafer thin Fiberglas, his wet locker of the stern of the boat was permanently full of water. The list went on and on and on.  

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Designed in 1972 as a scaled-up Carter 30, the 33 hails from Greece – one of the first mass-produced yachts built in Europe. Early models used large amounts of plywood in the cockpit area, but later boats were all glass. There were two rig options: a 50m2 racing rig, which performs well, and a shorter, rather underpowered 45.5m2 cruising rig, which suffers from lee helm in light airs. The propshaft on some boats is offset to one side, making her heavy to steer under power. She offers seven berths in a conventional 1970s-style cabin layout, with galley to port, chart table to starboard and heads forward of the mast. A lot of Carter 33s are found in the Med, at an attractive price, but a thorough survey is a must and prospective buyers would be wise to insist on a sea trial before doing the deal. But if you find a good one, she will look after you at sea and give you a lot of space down below for your money.

LOA 9.9m (32ft 7in), LWL 7.9m (25ft 9in), beam 3.4m (11ft 2in), draught 1.7m (5ft 5in), displacement 4,680kg (10,318lb). YM Test Report April 2002.