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Buying used sails (a complete guide to buying second-hand sails)

By Author Fiona McGlynn

Posted on Last updated: August 18, 2023

If you’re looking into buying a set of used sails, you’ve probably realized just how expensive brand-new sails can be.

Fortunately, you can buy used sails (that are still in good condition) for very affordable prices. Potentially saving yourself thousands of dollars.

Finding a good deal on a used sail that fits your boat is just a matter of knowing how and where to look.

In this guide we’ll cover:

• How much do used sails cost (and are they worth it)?
• How (and where) to find great deals on used sails.

Cost-saving tip: Did you know you can also save money by buying used boat parts ?

Table of contents

• 1.1 Do used sails save you money over the long run?
• 1.2 What about performance?
• 1.3 What about all those ugly stains?
• 2.1 Used sail types
• 2.2 Used sail features
• 2.3 Take your sail measurements
• 2.4 Where to buy second hand sails

How much do used sails cost?

While pricing varies by size, material, and condition, you can expect to spend a fraction of the price that you would on a set of new custom sails.

As an example, when we were preparing our Dufour 35 for bluewater cruising, we spent $5,000 on a brand-new main and genoa (a hefty chunk out of our cruising budget).

I recently priced out a similar set of used sails in good condition and came to a total of $1,200. That’s a 76% savings!

Do used sails save you money over the long run?

You might be wondering if a used sailboat sail will save you money over the long run. After all, used sails are “used” and presumably don’t have as much life left in them.

As sails age, they lose both their shape and structural integrity. They gradually stretch which makes them less efficient airfoils and impacts performance. They also become more prone to tearing as the material degrades.

Imagine paying $1,200 for used sails that only last one season. You would have been much better off spending $5,000 on new sails that last 10 or more seasons (i.e., $500 per season).

So, when you’re shopping for a used sailboat sail, it’s important to look closely at how the used sails are rated.

Most sail brokers have ranking systems that describe their sails as being anywhere from “Like new” to “Good” to “Useable”. These rankings can differ from broker to broker.

So, to find out if my $1,200 sail set ranked as “good” is still a good deal, let’s take a closer look.

We’ll use Atlantic Sail Trader’s used sail ranking system as an example:

• Fair – 45-50% of life left
• Good – 70-80% of life left
• Very Good – over 90% of life left

If my sails cost $5,000 new (with 100% life left), you’d think that a “good” set with 75% life left should cost should cost $3,750. Instead, I found them for $1,200.

So, in reality, you’re saving more like 68%, which still seems like a good deal.

What about performance?

It’s worth pointing out, that sails have two “lives”:

An ultimate life: how long it will stay in one piece. Never use a sail for so long that it risks breaking while underway.

A performance life: how long it will retain an aerodynamic shape, allowing you to point higher and sail faster.

A sail’s performance life is generally shorter than its ultimate life. How much shorter, depends on the type of sailcloth.

According to North Sails , woven polyester sailcloth has a performance life that is less than half of its ultimate life. For cruising laminates these figures look to be more in the 70-75% range.

These numbers might sound dismaying, but it’s worth investigating what “performance” means and how much it matters to you.

In our experience, new sails were nice to have but not life-changing. They did noticeably improve our boat’s sailing performance, allowing us to point a bit higher and eke out a fraction of a knot more boat speed.

Whether or not this matters to you will depend on the type of sailing you’re doing.

If you’re a competitive racer, new sails might be quite critical, giving you that winning edge.

If you’re weekend cruising, they probably won’t make much of a difference, maybe getting you to your destination 10-15 minutes earlier on a half-day sail.

If you’re planning on doing bluewater cruising you may want to buy new, as we did, because we didn’t want to be faced with replacing our sails halfway through our trip. Or budget may be the determining factor, and a 50-80% savings is nothing to sneeze at.

What about all those ugly stains?

Don’t let a few rust and mildew stains put you off buying a used sail. These stains are pretty common and aren’t necessarily indicative of a problem (though it might suggest the last owner didn’t clean their sails very often!).

With a few sail cleaning tricks you can greatly reduce the appearance of stains and brighten the overall appearance of your sail.

How to search for used sailboat sails

Before you start your search, you’ll want to have a clear idea of what you’re looking for. You’ll need to know:

• What type of sail and features you’re looking for?
• Your sailboat’s key rig measurements
• Where to search for used sails (e.g., online marketplaces, sail brokers)

Used sail types

You’ll find a wide variety of sail types on the second-hand market. Here are some commonly available used sails:

• Jib sails (triangular sail set forward of forwardmost mast)
• Staysails (the innermost headsail on a cutter-rigged sailboat)
• Genoas (a headsail that is large enough to overlap part of the mainsail)
• A ll-purpose asymmetrical spinnakers (for sailing 80-150 degrees off the wind)
• Symmetrical spinnakers (for sailing 110-180 degrees off the wind)
• Code Zero (for sailing 40-110 degrees off the wind)

Used sail features

There are many options and features that affect a sail’s performance and longevity.

While you may not get everything you want in a used sail, understanding sail characteristics will help you narrow down your search.

Mainsail battens are flexible inserts, often made from fiberglass or vinyl, that help support the roach and improve the airfoil shape.

A standard mainsail has short battens but you can also get full battens which help reduce the flogging of a luffing sail and make it easier to stack the sail on the boom.

Roller furling headsails are common on the water today and you’ll find plenty of used options. Furling mainsails are also available second-hand if you happen to have a boom or mast that accepts a furling sail.

Reef points allow you to reduce the size of your mainsail when the wind speed picks up. The more reef points you have, the more flexibility you have to adjust your sails to match the wind conditions.

Do you want a used mainsail with a single reef, deep reef, or even two or three reefs?

UV damages sailcloth, ultimately shortening the life of your sail. Sail covers are built-in and keep the headsail protected when it’s fully furled.

Some used sails come with a custom sail bag for storing your sail when it’s not in use.

Leech Lines and foot lines

Leech lines run along the leech, from the head of the sail to just above the clew.

Foot lines run from the tack to the clew along the foot of the sail.

Both lines are used to tension and reduce any fluttering in the edges of the sail.

Pro tip: Can’t find all the features you’re looking for? You can pay your local sail loft to make alterations or even do it yourself with a basic sail repair kit .

Used sail materials

Woven polyester.

Most of the used sail market consists of woven polyester, a material known for being affordable, durable, and reliable. It’s often called dacron, in reference to the DuPont trade name.

Charter companies expect to change out their dacron sails every two to three years or 1500 to 2500 hours . For the average weekend cruiser, this might amount to 10 years of serviceable life.

Laminated sails

Laminated sails are a step up from dacron. They tend to be lighter and hold their shape longer, though generally aren’t as long-lived ( expect 5-7 years ).

Laminated sails are made by combining a load-carrying fiber (e.g., polyester, aramid, Spectra/Dyneema, carbon, or a mix) with a laminate (e.g., Mylar film).

You may find a few used laminated sails on the second-hand market place but they’re not as common as dacron. They also tend to be pricier.

Nylon is a lightweight and low-cost fabric commonly used in spinnakers.

Cruising World has a good overview of sail materials if you’re looking to get into the nitty gritty.

Material weight

When choosing a sail, you’ll have to choose a material weight that’s appropriate for your boat’s size and displacement.

For instance, a 20-foot boat might use a 5 oz Dacron mainsail, but a 50-foot boat might use a 10 oz Dacron mainsail.

From there, you’ll be looking to balance how easily the sail fills in light winds with the sail’s longevity. Generally speaking, heavy sails will last longer while lighter sails are better for sailing in light air.

Take your sail measurements

The most important step in used sale shopping is getting accurate measurements.

At some point, you’ll need to hoist your sails and take detailed measurements of your rig. You can work with your sail broker or use this downloadable sail measuring guide from Sailrite.

However, to start your search, you only need to know four basic rig and sail dimensions.

Quick search tip

If you’re just looking to get a rough idea of used sail pricing and availability, you can look up rig measurements (I, J, P, E) for your boat on SailboatData.com and input these into the used sail websites listed at the bottom of this post.

Remember, it’s CRITICAL that you take hoisted measurements before ordering a used sail as your boat’s rig measurements may differ from those on SailboatData.com.

For example, your boat may have a tall rig, or a previous owner may have made alterations to the spars, stays, or added a roller furler. All of these may impact your rig measurements.

Mainsail measurements

Luff length (p).

Hook the end of your tape measure onto your main halyard (alongside your old sail) and hoist it right up to the top of the mast. Then measure to the top of the boom to get your maximum luff length.

Leech length

While you’ve got your tape measure hoisted, take the other end and measure to the end of the boom where you want your clew ring will be.

Lastly, measure from where the tack of the sail attaches at the front of the boom back to the farthest back point where you could attach the clew. This will be your maximum foot dimension.

Luff attachment

Depending on how your luff attaches to the mast (e.g., slides, slugs, rope luff) you’ll need to know the width of your existing track or slot. However, it’s fairly easy to add or change out slugs and slides if you can’t find a used sail that will fit your mast track.

Headsail measurements

Luff length.

Hoist the end of your tape measure up to the top of the mast with your jib halyard. Measure down the forestay to the deck. If you have a roller furling headsail, you’ll attach the tape measure to the top spindle and hoist it up. Measure down to the top of the furling drum.

I dimension

With the tape hoisted up the mast, measure straight down to the deck.

J dimension

Lastly, measure from where the forestay connects to the bow back to the base of the mast.

If you have a roller furling system, you’ll also need to measure the diameter of the luff tape, the small cord on the luff of the sail that serves as the attachment point to the roller furling system.

Luff Perpendicular (LP%)

Have you ever heard someone mention a percentage when talking about a headsail (e.g., 135% or 150%)? They’re referring to the sails LP% or Luff Perpendicular percentage , which describes a headsail’s size/overlap relative to a boat’s J dimension.

The LP is the shortest perpendicular line from the clew to the luff.

The LP% is the LP divided by the J dimension (measurement along the deck from forestay to mast)

LP / J * 100

Deciding what LP% you want, will depend on a few factors including:

• Where you sail. In an area like Vancouver Island, British Columbia, where summer winds are often light, you may want to opt for a higher LP% than if you were in San Francisco Bay, where the winds blow more consistently.
• Racing or cruising. If you race, your LP% will likely be determined by race regulations. Most cruisers and weekend sailors opt for an LP% in the 135% range which offers plenty of flexibility for moderate sailing conditions.
• Rig. It’s important to balance your headsail with your mainsail and ensure that your track position can accommodate the sail you’re interested in. If you’re buying a used sail that is considerably different from your existing one, you may want to contact one of the used sail brokers below for help with fine-tuning your setup.

Fine-tuning

Remember that these measurements are just a starting point to help you narrow down your search.

There may be other factors to consider:

• Do you have a masthead or fractionally rigged boat?
• Will a new headsail be balanced with your old mainsail?
• Will your new sail work with your existing track position, furling system, and clew heights?
• Will you need to make adaptations like installing a pennant or spacer?

Once you’ve narrowed down your search to a few sails, contact a sail broker (see below) and they can give you tailored advice for your particular situation.

Where to buy second hand sails

Online marketplaces.

eBay has a wide assortment of used boat sails. You may also have luck finding a good deal on a used sail on Craigslist or Kijiji.

One downside to these marketplaces is that you’re buying sails from the original owner, who may not provide precise measurements and likely won’t be an expert in sails.

Used sail brokers

Several stores specialize in selling used sails. They all vary in how they present their inventory. Some have retail locations, though you’ll find far more selection if you’re willing to shop online.

Some used sail websites offer better or more services than others.

• Most sail broker websites allow you to search by luff length, rig dimensions, or boat make and model (though user experience and ease of navigation vary!).
• Some companies will take your old sails on consignment and give you credit towards your new purchase.
• Some sail brokers will make alterations to your sail for a small fee before sending it to you.
• Many have return policies or satisfaction guarantees, though you may be required to pay for return shipping.

Minney’s Yacht Surplus in Costa Mesa, California is a must-visit for cruisers sailing down the coast. Not only do they have the largest new and used sail inventory on the West Coast, but they also offer a huge assortment of used boat parts. Their sail list is available on their website.

All sails are priced under $2,000 and sold on approval. So, if it’s shipped to you and you decide it isn’t suitable, you can return it within five days.

Second Wind Sails started out serving the sailing community in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, and has since expanded internationally. You can search their site by sail type, luff dimension, and foot dimensions. If they don’t currently have a sail that fits your needs, you can sign up to be notified by email when future sails match your search. For every sail they sell, they offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee.

Atlantic Sail Traders has been supplying sailors with new and used sails since 1985. They have thousands of new and used sails for sale including mains, jibs, genoas, spinnakers, mizzens, drifters, and storm sails. They’ll even take your old sails in on a trade towards a new or used sail or sell them outright for a 50% commission.

Bacon Sails has an extensive database of used sails and have been sail brokers since 1959. It’s very convenient to search their database because you only need to specify your boat’s make, model, and desired sail type. Though you’ll want to confirm your rig specs before finalizing your order.

Sail Exchange is based in Australia but ships worldwide for a flat rate of $99. They have a wide selection of used sails for sale and, unlike many other websites, each listing includes a photo of the sail in question. They also offer a 30-day 100% money-back guarantee. If you want to trade in your old sails, they’ll give you 15% off a new sail (of a similar size). They also sell used spars, sail bags, and other rigging.

Masthead Sailing Gear has a page where you can search for used sails by luff dimension.

Fiona McGlynn is an award-winning boating writer who created Waterborne as a place to learn about living aboard and traveling the world by sailboat. She has written for boating magazines including BoatUS, SAIL, Cruising World, and Good Old Boat. She’s also a contributing editor at Good Old Boat and BoatUS Magazine. In 2017, Fiona and her husband completed a 3-year, 13,000-mile voyage from Vancouver to Mexico to Australia on their 35-foot sailboat.

Douglas McQuilken

Sunday 1st of May 2022

Another comprehensive, informative article. When replacing your sails keep the older out of the landfill. Go green and trade them in at https://seabags.com/ . (I am not affiliated)

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By winning the ninth leg of the series New Zealand moved one point ahead of Australia in the championship standings with only two events remaining in Bermuda and Halifax before the series final in New York in June.

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"They're not really ready, they're not expecting to turn. That boundary came up real quick.

"Look at that, oh my days."

Aussie skipper Tom Slingsby had to made a hard turn to avoid a disastrous crash into the Canadians.

"It all happened so quickly but at that moment I knew that we were going to hit Canada, so I had a choice to make and I wanted to keep people safe so I turned the boat as hard as I could into the course mark," Slingsby said.

"I knew the mark was there but It was either that or go straight through Canada.

"Honestly I am just happy that no one was hurt and we are all in shock.

"I don't think it has all sunk in and it's been pretty emotional for me. It is a really scary moment when you feel like you could kill someone."

The Australians were stranded in the water and were forced out of the event following the error.

The latest leg on Lyttelton Harbour near Christchurch on the South Island was condensed to three fleet races before New Zealand, France and Canada raced in the event final.

Three fleet races were scheduled for the first day Saturday but none could be sailed because of the presence of endangered dolphins on the race course.

Lyttelton Harbour is a habitat of the endangered Hector’s dolphin and the event protocols prevented racing from taking place if dolphins were sighted on or near the course. No dolphins affected racing on Sunday.

New Zealand, France and Canada each won one of the fleet races sailed Sunday to qualify for the final in which New Zealand beat France by 12 seconds.

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France, Canada, Spain and Germany led early in the third race before New Zealand closed into fourth place at the fifth gate and finally moved up into second.

New Zealand won the start in the final and led around the course. Canada was second early but lost ground when it split with the fleet on the third of seven legs.

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How to find the right boat?

There are plenty of boats and selecting the right one might be challenging. The size of the boat should be your main criteria.

Plenty of small boats cruise the Moskva River, and the most vivid one is this yellow Lay’s-branded boat. Everyone who has ever visited Moscow probably has seen it.

This option might leave a passenger disembarking partially deaf as the merciless Russian pop music blasts onboard. A free spirit, however, will find partying on such a vessel to be an unforgettable and authentic experience that’s almost a metaphor for life in modern Russia: too loud, and sometimes too welcoming. Tickets start at $13 (800 rubles) per person.

Bigger boats offer smoother sailing and tend to attract foreign visitors because of their distinct Soviet aura. Indeed, many of the older vessels must have seen better days. They are still afloat, however, and getting aboard is a unique ‘cultural’ experience. Sometimes the crew might offer lunch or dinner to passengers, but this option must be purchased with the ticket. Here is one such  option  offering dinner for $24 (1,490 rubles).

If you want to travel in style, consider Flotilla Radisson. These large, modern vessels are quite posh, with a cozy restaurant and an attentive crew at your service. Even though the selection of wines and food is modest, these vessels are still much better than other boats.

Surprisingly, the luxurious boats are priced rather modestly, and a single ticket goes for $17-$32 (1,100-2,000 rubles); also expect a reasonable restaurant bill on top.

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Women holding photos of ships promise huge discounts to “the young and beautiful,” and give personal invitations for river tours. They sound and look nice, but there’s a small catch: their ticket prices are usually more than those purchased online.

“We bought tickets from street hawkers for 900 rubles each, only to later discover that the other passengers bought their tickets twice as cheap!”  wrote  (in Russian) a disappointed Rostislav on a travel company website.

Nevertheless, buying from street hawkers has one considerable advantage: they personally escort you to the vessel so that you don’t waste time looking for the boat on your own.

Prices start at $13 (800 rubles) for one ride, and for an additional $6.5 (400 rubles) you can purchase an unlimited number of tours on the same boat on any given day.

Flotilla Radisson has official ticket offices at Gorky Park and Hotel Ukraine, but they’re often sold out.

Buying online is an option that might save some cash. Websites such as  this   offer considerable discounts for tickets sold online. On a busy Friday night an online purchase might be the only chance to get a ticket on a Flotilla Radisson boat.

This  website  (in Russian) offers multiple options for short river cruises in and around the city center, including offbeat options such as ‘disco cruises’ and ‘children cruises.’ This other  website  sells tickets online, but doesn’t have an English version. The interface is intuitive, however.

Buying tickets online has its bad points, however. The most common is confusing which pier you should go to and missing your river tour.

“I once bought tickets online to save with the discount that the website offered,” said Igor Shvarkin from Moscow. “The pier was initially marked as ‘Park Kultury,’ but when I arrived it wasn’t easy to find my boat because there were too many there. My guests had to walk a considerable distance before I finally found the vessel that accepted my tickets purchased online,” said the man.

There are two main boarding piers in the city center:  Hotel Ukraine  and  Park Kultury . Always take note of your particular berth when buying tickets online.

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Even on a warm day, the headwind might be chilly for passengers on deck. Make sure you have warm clothes, or that the crew has blankets ready upon request.

The glass-encased hold makes the tour much more comfortable, but not at the expense of having an enjoyable experience.

Getting off the boat requires preparation as well. Ideally, you should be able to disembark on any pier along the way. In reality, passengers never know where the boat’s captain will make the next stop. Street hawkers often tell passengers in advance where they’ll be able to disembark. If you buy tickets online then you’ll have to research it yourself.

There’s a chance that the captain won’t make any stops at all and will take you back to where the tour began, which is the case with Flotilla Radisson. The safest option is to automatically expect that you’ll return to the pier where you started.

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Gold, Platinum, Imperial: Check-out / Airport transfer

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Journey: Volga Dream

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