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This unusual, flush-deck 1970s-era boat draws a bit too much to be a true trailer-sailer, but her performance nearly rivals a J/24. The cockpit is big, but the cabin quite small.
We originally reviewed the Tanzer 22 in the December 1, 1981 issue, but a friend of ours did such a good job restoring the 25-year-old T-22 he inherited from his father that we decided to take a second look. The T-22’s accommodations haven’t gotten any more workable than they were when we first sailed her; her aesthetics are, at best, “unique,” and we doubt she’d have much luck in a drag race with lighter 22’s like those that have come on the market since she was introduced in 1970. Still, she’s simple and fun to sail. She’s also capable enough as a cruiser and challenging enough as a racer to make her one of the most popular boats of her type ever built. There were 2,270 sold.
The Tanzer 22’s shortcomings may illustrate some of the ways that sailboats have gotten better over the years, but her strengths are still genuine. A pint-sized weekender/racer that wears well, the T-22 has earned remarkable loyalty from her owners.
Johann “Hans” Tanzer, designer/builder of the T-22, grew up in Austria where he apprenticed as a boatbuilder. Then he went to Switzerland where he built and raced dinghies and small boats. Finally he emigrated to Canada. He worked at first on one-offs, dinghies, and raceboats before starting his own shop. Tanzercraft built Lightnings, International 14s, and Y-Flyers. “Right from when I started in Austria the main thing was always racing…to make a boat go fast,” Tanzer said from his home near Dorion, Quebec. “Then I thought, ‘What about a boat for the family, for the average guy?’”
His answer was a 16-foot daysailer he called the Constellation, his first design. When his company expanded and became Tanzer Industries, Inc. in 1968, the Constellation became the Tanzer 16, and then Hans Tanzer drew up an overnighter version, the next step in appealing to the average guy.
Next up was the Tanzer 22.
“I was inspired a bit by Uffa Fox, some by George Hinterhoeller and what was happening at C&C; I knew how to make boats go fast. But for the 22 I wanted a boat that was first of all safe, that would be forgiving, that you would not need to be expert to sail, that would let families sail together.”
Design The T-22’s cockpit is large. It is well over 7′ long and (in the absence of side decks) utilizes the whole of the boat’s beam. It provides room to seat six and lets four sail comfortably. The well is deep, the seat backs are high, the seats slope outboard; it is secure and comfortable.
“We’ve sailed the boat for more than 20 years,” said an owner from Maine. “We like the roomy cockpit and solid feel. It’s a great boat for children as the cockpit is so deep and spacious.” Most owners say the same; its over-sized cockpit is a key to the appeal of the boat.
It is also, however, too big to drain quickly. And there is no bridgedeck. We asked Tanzer about the potential danger of filling the cockpit offshore and/or in heavy weather.
“The corner of the house deflects water and protects the cockpit from taking solid waves,” he answered. “My son and I took out the first boat we built and tried to break it. We had the spreaders in the water and the waves still didn’t come aboard. The water just streamed aft along the deck. The hull has plenty of freeboard and the cockpit sides are high. I think I should have made the cockpit more self-bailing, though.”
John Charters, once service manager at Tanzer Industries and now editor of the class newsletter, said, “Many owners have, like I did, added drains in the forward corner outboard end of the cockpit benches to drain what water comes aboard to the scuppers. I’ve seen T-22s with their keels out of the water, but I’ve never seen them swamp or heard of one that sank. When it starts to blow hard, though, I always sail with the bottom drop board in place in the companionway to make sure no water gets below.”
The T-22 displaces 2,900 pounds (3,100 for the keel/centerboard version). That’s heavy, even by 1970’s standards. The Catalina 22, a contemporary of the T-22, weighs 2,150 pounds. The more modern J/22 is just 1,790 pounds (and she’s hardly the lightest racer/cruiser available in this size range.) It’s natural to think of displacement as “dead weight,” especially in a small boat where size puts an effective limit on sail area. However, it can also translate (as we feel it does with the T-22) into robust scan’tlings and healthy ballast/displacement ratios. “Everything on the Tanzer is built extremely heavy-duty,” said one owner.
Tanzer put much of the T-22’s buoyancy in the after sections. As a result, she accommodates the weight of a cockpit full of sailors without squatting or deforming her sailing lines. Finally, the T-22 provides little of the “corky” feel that some small boats do. It would undoubtedly be possible to build the boat lighter today. That might improve it some, but the T-22’s solid feel and generous payload have endeared her to “the average guy,” and much of that is due to her heavy displacement.
The mainsail is small (112 sq. ft.) with almost no roach. Her spar is a “tree” in section and virtually unbendable. A 200 sq. ft. (170%) genoa provides the real muscle of the sail plan. We prefer a big controllable mainsail married to a small, non-overlapping jib for versatile, efficient sailpower. In a bigger boat an out-sized genny can become a man-killer. However, the Tanzer’s sails are small enough to handle. Putting most of the horsepower in the foretriangle is one way to limit weather helm and boost square footage for light air performance. A 375 sq. ft. spinnaker is allowed by the class. The T-22 sailplan, though dated, is proven and straightforward.
The hull and foil shapes also are products of their time. Not nearly so sharp of entry nor flat of exit as a modern racer/cruiser, hers is a “through-the-water” hull.
Like many racers from the early 70s, especially those produced by neighboring C&C, the T-22 has a swept-back keel. Designers have since plumbed the underwater mysteries with deltas, trapezoids, ellipses, bulbs, and wings. You don’t see swept-back fins much anymore, but they provide a generous and wide “groove” (which suits the boat well for the average sailor) and minimize wave-making resistance (which helps the boat accelerate and adds to her lively feel). Other shapes have come into fashion, but the T-22’s fin works well.
The same is not entirely true of the T-22 rudder. Tanzer’s original design was a shallow, aft-raking, semi-scimitar. He wanted, he said, a lift/drag profile to match the keel’s and a “fail-safe” element to keep sailors from “driving the boat into trouble.” What he got was a foil that tended to lift clear of the water and ventilate when the boat heeled in a puff.
“We should have replaced it right away,” said Charters, “but it took a long time before we developed a new one. It was deeper, semi-balanced, and straight on the leading edge. It worked! What used to involve fighting ‘on-the-edge’ weather helm is now a two-finger operation. We let the new rudder (it was developed by one of our owners and costs only about $200) and old rudder race together in our regattas.”
There aren’t many boats that look like the T-22. Her straight housetop/deck extends from stem to cockpit. The bow is spoon-curved but a bit bulbous. Very modern-looking in profile, the sheer is traditionally sprung, traced by a cove-stripe/rubbing strake that runs along the deckless “deckline,” which creates the illusion of low to medium freeboard while the actual hull/house sides are quite high. Except for the visual trickery involved with this cove stripe, Tanzer didn’t invest much in trying to make his boat look like something it wasn’t. Her big cockpit, raised side decks, and “good-for-the-average-guy” hull were the main thing, and that is what you get. From some angles she looks saucy, from some others silly.
Accommodations Dinettes were very popular in the ‘70s. “Convertible space” was the magic key to making little boats accommodate big people. Obviously, you have to bend some to cruise a boat this small.
The T-22’s headroom (4′ maximum) makes that point emphatic. So do the sharply tapered V-berth and the narrow quarter berth. The physical and visual “elbow room” created by taking the house side out to the rail, however, helps make the cabin less cramped. Still, the need to convert is a haunting reality. Change the table into the double berth, lift the forward berth to access the head beneath, convert the front-opening ice box into something you can live with underway, the hatch cover into a pop top, etc. and, after a while, “two-way space” becomes a mixed blessing.
Ventilation is another sore spot, but stowage (except for the “silly waste of space given over to the sink and ice box” noted by an owner from Lake George, New York) rates as “good” to “very good” with most owners. Hardly the heart of the design, the T-22’s interior has still let thousands enjoy the sort of limited cruising she was meant for.
Construction Eric Spencer, Tanzer Industries president from 1968 until 1985, now runs Yachting Services, Ltd. (Box 1045, Pointe Claire, Quebec H9S 4H9, Canada; 514/697-6952) that, among other activities, sells parts for the more than 8,000 Tanzers out there.
“Hans was always on the shop floor,” Eric said, “rarely in the office. He was prone to over-engineering things. You can see it in the T-22 keelbolts. They’re the same size we later used on the T-31. And we used the same mast section in the 26 with no problems. And the rigging—everyone else was using 1/8″ wire; Hans had to have 5/32″”
The hull/deck joint is an outboard flange joined by semi-rigid adhesive and 3/16″ machine screws on 6″ centers. Charters, the ex-service manager, said, “Though many owners report no leaks, the joint can leak—sometimes. One of the simpler systems and certainly one of the easiest to fix, it has some minor faults. Impact to the hull, even squeezing between lifting slings, can break the adhesive bond. Both the machine screws and the Monel pop rivets used on some boats may loosen where fasteners pulverize the fiberglass. Remember that the T-22 sails with her rubrail in the water. That pressure can turn even a tiny gap into a leak.”
Charters recommends removing the rubrail, (“but leave it attached at stem and stern or you’ll never get it back on,”) replacing (with oversized machine screws or through bolts) loose fasteners, and redoing the seal using BoatLIFE Life-Caulk or 3M 5200. This “two- to three-hour process,” he said, will renew most boats’ hull/deck joint to tightness.
The portlights originally relied on a sponge rubber inner gasket and a hard rubber outer seal. These, too, most likely will need to be renewed on older boats. Replacing the inner seal with butyl tape is one suggestion. Cutting new, over-sized ports from an acrylic or polycarbonate material (the original plastic clouds with age) and fastening them to the house side with sealant and mechanical fasteners is another good fix, owners report. “The sponge and spline seals I purchased (about $100) for the hull ports from Eric Spencer made re-doing the cabin ports easy. It took four hours and the leaks are completely gone!” said the owner of a 1981 model in Ontario.
An interior hull liner incorporates the berths, cabinets, sole, etc. It’s easy to assemble, and strong if done meticulously (as it seems to have been on the Tanzer floor). But when this construction system includes molded headliners it is hard to move or add deck hardware.
Resin-rich fiberglass from the era when the boat was first built is prone to becoming granular and powdery around screw holes. The early gelcoats craze easily. Still, most owners seem happy.
“Finish has held up very well over the years,” and “Boat looks like new,” were comments frequently heard about the T-22.
Our friend’s 25-year-old heirloom, however, had passed that stage. To bring the hull back he washed it down with Interlux 202, patched dings and scratches with epoxy and microballoons, then brushed on two coats of marine gloss enamel. The result rivals a professionally sprayed job while the cost (time, labor, and materials) is in keeping with the value of a quarter-century-old 22-footer.
The T-22’s iron keel is a sore point. Iron is 40% less dense than lead so you need more of it (at a cost in added wetted surface) to give the boat sufficient ballast. And it rusts. One owner said he discovered no primer beneath the bottom paint applied at the factory. Many sailors know the agonies of fairing a keel that scales and peels. For race-ready perfection you can fill the major craters with epoxy and then build and sand with a system like Interlux’s Interprotect (2000 E coating and V135 Watertite fairing). Not many owners are that far into their fleet racing, but most wish that the keel originally had been made of lead.
Performance Hans Tanzer’s solid background in performance boats, dinghies, and daysailers helped him design the sort of “safe and forgiving” yet lively sailboat he was looking for to appeal to the average guy. He struck a number of balances well. The big cockpit (little cabin), good stability (stiff but not rock-like), controllable rig, and powerful yet easily driven hull combine to give her good manners.
We sailed our friend’s newly painted boat through a drifty morning and a sea-breeze afternoon. In the river she was quick, but tacking the genoa made us wish for a smaller jib and bigger mainsail. On the ocean she was solid and dry. She tacked in 75° in smooth water, and short-tacked up a channel, quickly getting her foils working after a tack.
With a 15-knot breeze she surged rather than surfed. Her deep, rounded afterquarters make her easy to steer but reluctant to get up on plane where a J/22 might.
The strongest T-22 fleets are in Montreal and Ottowa, but American fleets are active, too. Said Charters, “We were the first cruiser/racer invited to CORK (Canadian Olympic-training Regatta at Kingston). We’ve moved now to the offshore course and start 5 minutes behind the J/24s. Usually, the first T-22s, light air or heavy, catch the straggling 24s. We’ve never beaten the winners though.”
PHRF ratings for the T-22 range between 92 and 98, while the J/24 rates between 88 and 98.
The standard mainsheet is attached to a strongpoint on the cockpit sole. A number of traveler options have been tried. Tracks mounted on the sole rather than on a cross-cockpit bridge cut up the cockpit less but offer less control.
You might point higher if you could sheet the genoa tighter, but the shrouds don’t let you. Also, those shrouds, not in perfect alignment with the tabernacle hinge at the base of the mast, must be loosened before you lower the mast. Depending on how (and how much) the wind is blowing, that can be a problem.
The keel/centerboard version (about 10% of the boats sold have this configuration) is less close-winded and, according to racers, not that much faster off the wind than the full keel. Either needs at least 5′ of depth to float off a trailer, so being ramp-launchable involves sending the trailer into the water on a tether.
Conclusions One of the biggest pluses for the boat is the 700-member owner’s association. It maintains Tanzer Talk (a newsletter) and egroups.com/tanzer (a website) that make fellowship as big a part of ownership as you’d like it to be. The owner of a 1979 model from Long Island Sound reports “an outstanding T-22 website (http//www.tanzer22.com) and network of owners who are always willing to help with ideas and experience.”
Built efficiently but using high quality materials throughout the boat (even the pop rivets are Monel), the T-22 commanded a higher price than many of her competitors.
A prospective buyer can still find cheaper ways into the pocket cruising experience, but not many offer the combination of big boat feel and reliability, plus raceboat life, that have suited the T-22 so well to Tanzer’s “average guy.”
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Thank You! Good article. Just purchased a Tanzer 22. Needing to get proficient at raising and lowering the mast. I received a few Tanzer.22 Newsletters with the boat. In Volume 2 Numbers 21 to 42 page 82 has a good article about ” Mast raising or lowering”. Its quite descriptive but a little confusion. It was written by Brian Rees from CA, I would love to talk with him and have him explain the details. If you know the article, review it and feel free to comment. hank you
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Tanzer 22 t4
The tanzer 22 t4 is a 22.5ft masthead sloop designed by johann tanzer and built in fiberglass by tanzer industries ltd. since 1970..
The Tanzer 22 t4 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
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| Length | 22.50 ft | ||
| Beam | 7.83 ft | ||
| Draft | 3.40 ft | ||
| Country | Canada (North America) | ||
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| Displ. / length | 168.05 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 14.04 | ||
| Capsize | 2.20 |
| Hull type | Monohull fin keel with transom hung rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 19.75 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 3.40 ft | ||
| Displacement | 2900 lbs | ||
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| Hull speed | 5.96 knots |
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| Sail area (100%) | 222 sq.ft | ||
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| Sail area fore | 118.25 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 103.50 sq.ft | ||
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| P | 23 ft | ||
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Tanzer 22 #2104 "Brave and Crazy"Review of Tanzer 22Basic specs.. The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all. The Tanzer 22 has been built with more than one type of keel. One option is a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel. Another option is a centerboard keel. A centerboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters. The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.61 - 0.71 meter (2.00 - 2.30 ft) dependent on the load. Sailing characteristicsThis section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats. Sorry, we have no sailing characteristics available for this boat. Sailing statisticsThis section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points. Sorry, we do not have sufficient statistical information available for this boat to provide a significant reliable analysis. MaintenanceAre your sails worn out? You might find your next sail here: Sails for Sale If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
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Tanzer Industries Ltd.Founded by Johann Tanzer, Tanzer Industries Ltd. was one of the largest sailboat manufacturer in Canada for more than 20 years. The Tanzer line ranged from 16 to 35 feet. The most successful model was the TANZER 22 with more than 2200 built. But other models including the 26 were also built in large numbers. In it’s heyday Tanzer built boats on both coasts of the U.S., but the factory at Dorion, Que., turned out the bulk of the roughly 8,000 Tanzers built. The company was forced into bankruptcy in May of 1986. Associations
20 sailboats built by Tanzer Industries Ltd. Flying Scot Overnighter 16Tanzer 22 cb.  Constellation 16 Tanzer 10.5 Tanzer 22 T/4
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Tanzer 22 vs O'day 22
Looking at a Tanzer 22 on it's trailer, been setting idle for 6-8 years covered with leaves and mold under trees. I am intrigued by it's V-shape hull , looks like it would ride the waves or a rough sea better than my O'day 22 which is pretty much flat bottom. Looks like it may have more interior cabin room than my O'day. This Tanzer has a large center board with the pivot pin outside the hull. I have looked at several websites but haven't been able to get any real details on it. I'll try to find the owner and get in touch. I did a search in this forum and found a little info back in 2008. I just subscribed to a Tanzer news e-mail, see what I can learn from that. Any Tanzer owners out there or experience with them and website info would be appreciated. Good sailing to all this summer. David S  Did you try visiting http://www.tanzer22.com/ ? Cheers, Brad tanzer my first boat was a 1981 tanzer 22, name was TAKAPI. Just sold it last year to upgrade to a hunter 33. She was a great boat, used it in the east, on Champlain Lake and recently in the west, on the Pacific near Vancouver B.C. It is more of a lake bat but handles very well in salt water and with strong winds or waves. Sailed it on longer cruises, 7-10 days, and loved it. Cabin is the size of a typical 22, fairly small but the rear cokpit and deck is just huge. Very easy to use, reliable and very stable under any wind conditions. I highly recommend one. te  David S said: Looking at a Tanzer 22 on it's trailer, been setting idle for 6-8 years covered with leaves and mold under trees. I am intrigued by it's V-shape hull , looks like it would ride the waves or a rough sea better than my O'day 22 which is pretty much flat bottom. Looks like it may have more interior cabin room than my O'day. This Tanzer has a large center board with the pivot pin outside the hull. I have looked at several websites but haven't been able to get any real details on it. I'll try to find the owner and get in touch. I did a search in this forum and found a little info back in 2008. I just subscribed to a Tanzer news e-mail, see what I can learn from that. Any Tanzer owners out there or experience with them and website info would be appreciated. Good sailing to all this summer. David S Click to expand [email protected]The Tanzer 22 was on my short list for a boat last winter. I took it off when I discovered it does not have sitting head room (i am 6' tall) That said, it is an excellent sailing boat with a PHRF that should belong to a 25 or 26 foot boat.  Attachments Some nice sailboats to check out are: the O'Day 22 with a keel/centerboard, the O'Day 222 keel/centerboard, and the O'Day 23 keel/centerboard manufactured from 1974 and after. Earlier models of this boat had cast iron keels and centerboard issues.
We originally reviewed the Tanzer 22 in the December 1, 1981 issue, but a friend of ours did such a good job restoring the 25-year-old T-22 he inherited from his father that we decided to take a second look. The T-22's accommodations haven't gotten any more workable than they were when we first sailed her; her aesthetics are, at best, "unique," and we doubt she'd have much luck in a drag race with lighter 22's like those that have come on the market since she was introduced in 1970. Still, she's simple and fun to sail. She's also capable enough as a cruiser and challenging enough as a racer to make her one of the most popular boats of her type ever built. There were 2,270 sold. The Tanzer 22's shortcomings may illustrate some of the ways that sailboats have gotten better over the years, but her strengths are still genuine. A pint-sized weekender/racer that wears well, the T-22 has earned remarkable loyalty from her owners. Johann "Hans" Tanzer, designer/builder of the T-22, grew up in Austria where he apprenticed as a boatbuilder. Then he went to Switzerland where he built and raced dinghies and small boats. Finally he emigrated to Canada. He worked at first on one-offs, dinghies, and raceboats before starting his own shop. Tanzercraft built Lightnings, International 14s, and Y-Flyers. "Right from when I started in Austria the main thing was always racing...to make a boat go fast," Tanzer said from his home near Dorion, Quebec. "Then I thought, 'What about a boat for the family, for the average guy?'" Photo caption: More than 2,000 Tanzer 22s were built during the 1970s, making it one of the most popular boats ever of its size. His answer was a 16-foot daysailer he called the Constellation, his first design. When his company expanded and became Tanzer Industries, Inc. in 1968, the Constellation became the Tanzer 16, and then Hans Tanzer drew up an overnighter version, the next step in appealing to the average guy. Next up was the Tanzer 22. "I was inspired a bit by Uffa Fox, some by George Hinterhoeller and what was happening at C&C; I knew how to make boats go fast. But for the 22 I wanted a boat that was first of all safe, that would be forgiving, that you would not need to be expert to sail, that would let families sail together." The T-22's cockpit is large. It is well over 7' long and (in the absence of side decks) utilizes the whole of the boat's beam. It provides room to seat six and lets four sail comfortably. The well is deep, the seat backs are high, the seats slope outboard; it is secure and comfortable. "We've sailed the boat for more than 20 years," said an owner from Maine. "We like the roomy cockpit and solid feel. It's a great boat for children as the cockpit is so deep and spacious." Most owners say the same; its over-sized cockpit is a key to the appeal of the boat. It is also, however, too big to drain quickly. And there is no bridgedeck. We asked Tanzer about the potential danger of filling the cockpit offshore and/or in heavy weather. "The corner of the house deflects water and protects the cockpit from taking solid waves," he answered. "My son and I took out the first boat we built and tried to break it. We had the spreaders in the water and the waves still didn't come aboard. The water just streamed aft along the deck. The hull has plenty of freeboard and the cockpit sides are high. I think I should have made the cockpit more self-bailing, though." John Charters, once service manager at Tanzer Industries and now editor of the class newsletter, said, "Many owners have, like I did, added drains in the forward corner outboard end of the cockpit benches to drain what water comes aboard to the scuppers. I've seen T-22s with their keels out of the water, but I've never seen them swamp or heard of one that sank. When it starts to blow hard, though, I always sail with the bottom drop board in place in the companionway to make sure no water gets below." The T-22 displaces 2,900 pounds (3,100 for the keel/centerboard version). That's heavy, even by 1970's standards. The Catalina 22, a contemporary of the T-22, weighs 2,150 pounds. The more modern J/22 is just 1,790 pounds (and she's hardly the lightest racer/cruiser available in this size range.) It's natural to think of displacement as "dead weight," especially in a small boat where size puts an effective limit on sail area. However, it can also translate (as we feel it does with the T-22) into robust scantlings and healthy ballast/displacement ratios. "Everything on the Tanzer is built extremely heavy-duty," said one owner. Tanzer put much of the T-22's buoyancy in the after sections. As a result, she accommodates the weight of a cockpit full of sailors without squatting or deforming her sailing lines. Finally, the T-22 provides little of the "corky" feel that some small boats do. It would undoubtedly be possible to build the boat lighter today. That might improve it some, but the T-22's solid feel and generous payload have endeared her to "the average guy," and much of that is due to her heavy displacement. The mainsail is small (112 sq. ft.) with almost no roach. Her spar is a "tree" in section and virtually unbendable. A 200 sq. ft. (170%) genoa provides the real muscle of the sail plan. We prefer a big controllable mainsail married to a small, non-overlapping jib for versatile, efficient sailpower. In a bigger boat an out-sized genny can become a man-killer. However, the Tanzer's sails are small enough to handle. Putting most of the horsepower in the foretriangle is one way to limit weather helm and boost square footage for light air performance. A 375 sq. ft. spinnaker is allowed by the class. The T-22 sailplan, though dated, is proven and straightforward. The hull and foil shapes also are products of their time. Not nearly so sharp of entry nor flat of exit as a modern racer/cruiser, hers is a "through-the-water" hull. Like many racers from the early 70s, especially those produced by neighboring C&C, the T-22 has a swept-back keel. Designers have since plumbed the underwater mysteries with deltas, trapezoids, ellipses, bulbs, and wings. You don't see swept-back fins much anymore, but they provide a generous and wide "groove" (which suits the boat well for the average sailor) and minimize wave-making resistance (which helps the boat accelerate and adds to her lively feel). Other shapes have come into fashion, but the T-22's fin works well. The same is not entirely true of the T-22 rudder. Tanzer's original design was a shallow, aft-raking, semi-scimitar. He wanted, he said, a lift/drag profile to match the keel's and a "fail-safe" element to keep sailors from "driving the boat into trouble." What he got was a foil that tended to lift clear of the water and ventilate when the boat heeled in a puff. "We should have replaced it right away," said Charters, "but it took a long time before we developed a new one. It was deeper, semi-balanced, and straight on the leading edge. It worked! What used to involve fighting 'on-the-edge' weather helm is now a two-finger operation. We let the new rudder (it was developed by one of our owners and costs only about $200) and old rudder race together in our regattas." There aren't many boats that look like the T-22. Her straight housetop/deck extends from stem to cockpit. The bow is spoon-curved but a bit bulbous. Very modern-looking in profile, the sheer is traditionally sprung, traced by a cove-stripe/rubbing strake that runs along the deckless "deckline," which creates the illusion of low to medium freeboard while the actual hull/house sides are quite high. Except for the visual trickery involved with this cove stripe, Tanzer didn't invest much in trying to make his boat look like something it wasn't. Her big cockpit, raised side decks, and "good-for-the-average-guy" hull were the main thing, and that is what you get. From some angles she looks saucy, from some others silly. Accommodations Dinettes were very popular in the '70s. "Convertible space" was the magic key to making little boats accommodate big people. Obviously, you have to bend some to cruise a boat this small. Photo caption: Accommodations aboard the Tanzer are fine for a couple on a weekend, but most people will want to be sitting in the cockpit. The T-22's headroom (4' maximum) makes that point emphatic. So do the sharply tapered V-berth and the narrow quarter berth. The physical and visual "elbow room" created by taking the house side out to the rail, however, helps make the cabin less cramped. Still, the need to convert is a haunting reality. Change the table into the double berth, lift the forward berth to access the head beneath, convert the front-opening ice box into something you can live with underway, the hatch cover into a pop top, etc. and, after a while, "two-way space" becomes a mixed blessing. Ventilation is another sore spot, but stowage (except for the "silly waste of space given over to the sink and ice box" noted by an owner from Lake George, New York) rates as "good" to "very good" with most owners. Hardly the heart of the design, the T-22's interior has still let thousands enjoy the sort of limited cruising she was meant for. Construction Eric Spencer, Tanzer Industries president from 1968 until 1985, now runs Yachting Services, Ltd. (Box 1045, Pointe Claire, Quebec H9S 4H9, Canada; 514/697-6952) that, among other activities, sells parts for the more than 8,000 Tanzers out there. "Hans was always on the shop floor," Eric said, "rarely in the office. He was prone to over-engineering things. You can see it in the T-22 keelbolts. They're the same size we later used on the T-31. And we used the same mast section in the 26 with no problems. And the rigging-everyone else was using 1/8" wire; Hans had to have 5/32"" The hull/deck joint is an outboard flange joined by semi-rigid adhesive and 3/16" machine screws on 6" centers. Charters, the ex-service manager, said, "Though many owners report no leaks, the joint can leak-sometimes. One of the simpler systems and certainly one of the easiest to fix, it has some minor faults. Impact to the hull, even squeezing between lifting slings, can break the adhesive bond. Both the machine screws and the Monel pop rivets used on some boats may loosen where fasteners pulverize the fiberglass. Remember that the T-22 sails with her rubrail in the water. That pressure can turn even a tiny gap into a leak." Charters recommends removing the rubrail, ("but leave it attached at stem and stern or you'll never get it back on,") replacing (with oversized machine screws or through bolts) loose fasteners, and redoing the seal using BoatLIFE Life-Caulk or 3M 5200. This "two- to three-hour process," he said, will renew most boats' hull/deck joint to tightness. The portlights originally relied on a sponge rubber inner gasket and a hard rubber outer seal. These, too, most likely will need to be renewed on older boats. Replacing the inner seal with butyl tape is one suggestion. Cutting new, over-sized ports from an acrylic or polycarbonate material (the original plastic clouds with age) and fastening them to the house side with sealant and mechanical fasteners is another good fix, owners report. "The sponge and spline seals I purchased (about $100) for the hull ports from Eric Spencer made re-doing the cabin ports easy. It took four hours and the leaks are completely gone!" said the owner of a 1981 model in Ontario. An interior hull liner incorporates the berths, cabinets, sole, etc. It's easy to assemble, and strong if done meticulously (as it seems to have been on the Tanzer floor). But when this construction system includes molded headliners it is hard to move or add deck hardware. Photo caption: The T22's sailplan is moderately powerful and easy to handle with end-boom sheeting. Note the two underbody configurations - fin keel or keel/centerboard for shoal waters and easier trailering. Resin-rich fiberglass from the era when the boat was first built is prone to becoming granular and powdery around screw holes. The early gelcoats craze easily. Still, most owners seem happy. "Finish has held up very well over the years," and "Boat looks like new," were comments frequently heard about the T-22. Our friend's 25-year-old heirloom, however, had passed that stage. To bring the hull back he washed it down with Interlux 202, patched dings and scratches with epoxy and microballoons, then brushed on two coats of marine gloss enamel. The result rivals a professionally sprayed job while the cost (time, labor, and materials) is in keeping with the value of a quarter-century-old 22-footer. The T-22's iron keel is a sore point. Iron is 40% less dense than lead so you need more of it (at a cost in added wetted surface) to give the boat sufficient ballast. And it rusts. One owner said he discovered no primer beneath the bottom paint applied at the factory. Many sailors know the agonies of fairing a keel that scales and peels. For race-ready perfection you can fill the major craters with epoxy and then build and sand with a system like Interlux's Interprotect (2000 E coating and V135 Watertite fairing). Not many owners are that far into their fleet racing, but most wish that the keel originally had been made of lead. Performance Hans Tanzer's solid background in performance boats, dinghies, and daysailers helped him design the sort of "safe and forgiving" yet lively sailboat he was looking for to appeal to the average guy. He struck a number of balances well. The big cockpit (little cabin), good stability (stiff but not rock-like), controllable rig, and powerful yet easily driven hull combine to give her good manners. We sailed our friend's newly painted boat through a drifty morning and a sea-breeze afternoon. In the river she was quick, but tacking the genoa made us wish for a smaller jib and bigger mainsail. On the ocean she was solid and dry. She tacked in 75 degrees in smooth water, and short-tacked up a channel, quickly getting her foils working after a tack. With a 15-knot breeze she surged rather than surfed. Her deep, rounded afterquarters make her easy to steer but reluctant to get up on plane where a J/22 might. The strongest T-22 fleets are in Montreal and Ottawa, but American fleets are active, too. Said Charters, "We were the first cruiser/racer invited to CORK (Canadian Olympic-training Regatta at Kingston). We've moved now to the offshore course and start 5 minutes behind the J/24s. Usually, the first T-22s, light air or heavy, catch the straggling 24s. We've never beaten the winners though." PHRF ratings for the T-22 range between 92 and 98, while the J/24 rates between 88 and 98. The standard mainsheet is attached to a strongpoint on the cockpit sole. A number of traveler options have been tried. Tracks mounted on the sole rather than on a cross-cockpit bridge cut up the cockpit less but offer less control. You might point higher if you could sheet the genoa tighter, but the shrouds don't let you. Also, those shrouds, not in perfect alignment with the tabernacle hinge at the base of the mast, must be loosened before you lower the mast. Depending on how (and how much) the wind is blowing, that can be a problem. The keel/centerboard version (about 10% of the boats sold have this configuration) is less close-winded and, according to racers, not that much faster off the wind than the full keel. Either needs at least 5' of depth to float off a trailer, so being ramp-launchable involves sending the trailer into the water on a tether. Conclusions One of the biggest pluses for the boat is the 700-member owner's association. It maintains Tanzer Talk (a newsletter) and egroups.com/tanzer (a website) that make fellowship as big a part of ownership as you'd like it to be. The owner of a 1979 model from Long Island Sound reports "an outstanding T-22 website (http//www.tanzer22.com) and network of owners who are always willing to help with ideas and experience." Built efficiently but using high quality materials throughout the boat (even the pop rivets are Monel), the T-22 commanded a higher price than many of her competitors. A prospective buyer can still find cheaper ways into the pocket cruising experience, but not many offer the combination of big boat feel and reliability, plus raceboat life, that have suited the T-22 so well to Tanzer's "average guy." Powered By Google Sites 
Tanzer 22 for a first boat?
Hi folks; So, I had this plan, and it seemed like a sensible plan. Quick background: I live in Ottawa, Ontario, and will likely be sailing mostly (only?) on a stretch of the Ottawa River. Sailing experience is about as minimal as it is to have without actually have zero experience (Sea Cadets in my youth, 32' clinker built whalers...). Back to the sensible plan, which is: do a Learn to Cruise course in May of next year. In the meantime, buy and read, "The International Marine Book of Sailing," and, "The Annapolis Book of Seamanship," so that I have some idea of what I'm getting into on the course. I'm reading the first book now and its a truly humbling experience. After the course (which comes with a complimentary membership to one of two Ottawa clubs), crew for a year. Then, look for a boat. And re-read the books. In the meantime, I've been viewing ads on the local kijiji, just to see how much money buys what in a boat. I recognize that this whole idea could be a mid life crisis thing, so as a principle am trying to keep costs on a purchase as low-ish as possible. That said, what I wasn't expecting were a couple of Tanzer 22s to pop up for what appear to be low-ish reasonable prices. One is $1500, (a 1978) had a survey done in 2013 (seems like a good survey), comes with motor (tuned up), and cradle and what appears to be the minimum required gear to go. Seller tells me in email in response (to my question of if he's keeping the boat what're the issues he'd tackle next) that there are no issues, she's ready to go. If I've learned one thing on these forums, lurking about, is that there's always something to do next on a boat. The other is $2400, (a 1977), and seems to come with more gear. Haven't had a response to an enquiry as yet, so not sure how my questions will be answered. I hadn't actually given a lot of thought about what boat I was going to buy eventually, but I do know time on the water matters, and Tanzer seems to have their fans and there's quite a few in the Ottawa area. I'm fighting the desire to pull the trigger because I haven't even taken the damn sailing course and actually thinking truly about buying makes me realize how much I don't know about the whole experience -- not to mention that it feels impulsive as hell. And I have a plan; I should stick to the plan. It's a sensible plan. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger because the prices seem good (pending actually going in and having a look at the boats, insurance, etc.), the fact that I will own a boat eventually, from what reading I've done the Tanzer 22 is decent boat to cut your teeth on, and if I don't do the sailing I think I will do, then it's not huge huge monies expended. For more context, my wife will be taking the sailing course with me, and I'll have the boys out -- they're good sized lads -- 14 and 13, 6'2" and 5'10" respectively. Hope all that makes sense. So. I guess I'm just looking for some perspective on how mad either scheme appears. And whatnot. Thank you. It depends on your personality and the personalities of your wife and sons. Specifically, it depends on your (plural) learning styles, tolerances for trying things out on your own (learning like a child does) and acceptance of the sometimes undesirable results, and degree of risk acceptance/aversion. My experience informs my opinion that reading the book is great, but will be a lot more useful if you can read a little, then go out and practice what you've read about the previous evening. I don't see that as part of your plan. Crewing on other people's boats is good, but you don't learn how to sail unless you have the tiller in your hand. So, in my opinion, your plan is too sensible, too 'plan-ny.' The learn-to-cruise course doesn't seem like a good investment at your stage. Instead, supplement your basic sailing knowledge with a good safety course. It may be required where your live, anyway. In the meantime, read about inspecting/maintaining/repairing small sailboats. Then buy one, preferably one that the seller will take you sailing on before you buy. No need to be impulsive about a boat purchase; there are plenty of small sailboats for sale all the time. On the other hand, don't get too caught up in finding the perfect boat - that is procrastination. What you will learn in one season of actually sailing your own boat will far surpass a year of standing on the sidelines/sitting on a rail, and you will have to go through the less-than-great beginner experiences anyway; might as well get them out of the way next year instead of 2017. You never know what life will do to you, so if you want to experience sailing your own boat, sooner is better than later. One more thing: You use 'I' but not 'we.' Carefully consider the other people that seem to be extras in your movie; especially if you imagine them to be co-stars in roles they have no interest in playing.  I like jwing's advice. I will emphasize, do NOT get worked up about a cheap older boat. There are thousands out there, you will always find another. Used to be lots more difficult, had to physically find the boats, but with the internet you can look at 100 boats. Don't rush to buy the first one you see. You will always find Tanzer 22's for $1500. Did you mention a trailer? It's more difficult to find a decent trailer - not rusted out - especially with brakes. Finding a boat on a decent trailer allows you to bring it home to work on it and save the price of the boat in storage fees......each year! Tanzer 22 info. I've never had one but I've certainly looked at them. I like that they seem solidly built. I prefer a main sheet traveler, really helps adjusting for winds. I don't like that the Tanzer 22 has the main sheet fixed on the floor of the cockpit, no traveler. Carefully check that the floor is sound, I doubt it will be because it's a heavy use area, the attachment point will flex and leak, and the balsa core will rot. If it pulls out you can't control the main. I've seen seriously leaking deck fittings on T22's, if you like one go back and look at it after a really big rainstorm, a good idea with any old boat. Leaking fittings can cause core rot in the deck. Not sure but I think that the keel is iron. Iron is OK, very strong, but takes a lot of work to stop the rust. Most people paint copper bottom paint directly on the keel. Copper is a very active metal, combine it with another metal in an electrolyte (salt water) and you have a battery - galvanic corrosion. Owners see you looking at the rust and say "just needs to be recoated with bottom paint". I'm fine with iron keels after the initial work of removing all paint, scale, loose rust, using a needle gun, treating with phosphoric acid, and coating with something to separate it from the copper. I used POR on my iron keel (using all their prep products and following directions) and it has been fine for 3 or 4 years so far. This is not new info, the Statue of Liberty is copper, and in the 1800's they carefully used tar or something to separate the copper from the iron frame.  Dont fight the desire. Tanzer 22 could be pretty much the ideal first boat. You might consider putting dollars of training into the boat purchase. Get a nicer Tanzer 22. Jwing and skygazer both gave good advice. I like the part about finding a trailer and also learn by doing. Its easy to learn how to sail on your own, despite the forthcoming posts about how you will kill yourself and its too dangerous. Nope, there is a lot to learn but it happens at a slow pace and you can manage. Read Sailing for Dummies. I think thats the level you should be putting your sight on. You could pick up a cheap sunfish and spend a few weeks ( or years) learning on that. A sunfish is not a toy, although its small....its a real sailboat and quite capable. My dock neighbor this year was a Tanzer 22 and I have a Catalina 22. His boat looked like a Cat 22 on steroids. It looked strong and overbuilt. Comes as a swing keel so a trailer is a real possibility. There are a lot of them around, also a good thing. Condition,any rot, the sails, the motor, the trailer, are everything.  I also have a Catalina 22. I'm not familiar with the Tanzer, but I can say that an older 22' boat makes a great first boat. It's big enough that you get big boat feel, but still small enough that you can manhandle it around if you need to. It's big enough that you can get a feeling for just how big boat projects can get, but small enough that you can actually accomplish stuff. And boats like this are cheap enough that you don't have to freak out if you hit the dock a little too hard. It takes a lot of the stress out of adding some non-skid or a few pieces of hardware knowing that the boat has already lost most of its value and there's little you can do to screw it up further. I say GO FOR IT! a cradle is good but a trailer is better - storage over one winter is probably equal to the cost of a trailer. One of the advantages of a trailer boat is it can go to other areas easily. Looking at a map of your area, I can see almost endless opportunities to trailer the boat to another areas. You are 3 hours from Lake Champlain, for example. 1.5 hours to Lake St. Francis and Lake Ontario is practically an ocean. Also, resale is easier because the next buyer just tows it home. That said, we have never slept on our boat, the cabin is basically a nice storage area, with bunks to take a short nap and a table to put food on and a porta potty to piss in. We have trailered her to Long Island Sound and Lake George. I looked at two Tanzer 22 swing keels yesterday in our boatyard as I was hauling my boat. Neither had trailers and both were being cut up and disposed of. Its probably different in Canada but around here there are literally endless numbers of 20'-40' sailboats just wasting away. Its very sad. I hear you on the trailer. It seems plenty of folks just winter their boats, even on a trailer, in the yards at the various clubs. Obviously, plenty of others will just haul them home for the winter, but yesterday I did see a number of boats on trailers in the yard. In terms of the flexibility it offers, it can't be beat. Sharon's brother has a cottage in the Thousand Islands, so if the boat only has a cradle now, a trailer is something we're thinking of given, as you say, the proximity to other locales in which to sail. I mean, once we're comfortable on the boat, sailing to her brother's place would be very nice, with options to put in at Kingston, or wherever. I am keeping an eye out for a boat on a road-worthy trailer; one fellow I contacted told me to go bug someone else with my questions, so my search continues on that front. I'll also just run down how much a trailer costs, separately.  Good boat, my only concern would be space with 4 adult sized people onboard. You may very well find yourself wanting something bigger in a very short time. I have a 25' boat, 2 onboard is comfortable, 4 I can do for an afternoon sail. Could not imagine a weekend with 4 onboard. I don't know about the cockpit size of a Tanzer 22, but four people is fine for a daysail on my Catalina 22. We did a weekend with four people. Two stayed on land overnight while my wife and I slept on the boat. We've done six adults for an afternoon sail several times. That's starting to get crowded, but it's fine. Especially if one or two want to hang out up on the bow.  I wouldn't look at buying a boat till after you complete your sailing course. Hopefully you will get to sail a few different models and will quickly form an opinion which one suits you and tour spouses requirements. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Met the seller and his son today as they were hauling the boat out. I took my youngest son for a look -- he's got a good eye and it's good experience for him in any case. I also wanted to hear his reaction to it -- the kids don't like talking about these things in the abstract, but seeing the boat and being on it makes it a lot more concrete for them. Once cradled, I had a look at the hull and to my noob eye, everything looked good. We clambered aboard and poked around a bit. There's work to be done on the boat; what I noticed is that the bow railings could be tighter -- noticed some screws missing so that would need to be addressed. It's clear the teak needs to be refinished. Owner can't remember the last time he had the motor serviced. The interior of the boat is small -- I took some photos so my wife could see -- she was otherwise occupied today so couldn't come out. The cockpit's a good size on these boats, so of course the size of the cabin suffers somewhat. I'm not sure we'd ever weekend with another couple on this boat or on one comparable in size. However, with our kids, we may try, though that would have to wait for Sharon and I to try it to see if we like it. Not much on the boat in terms of electrics or electronics. There's a battery that the mast light is attached to and internal lights and that's pretty much it. The deck is solid. I have done some preliminary looking for a trailer that'll handle the boat and its cost is looking comparable to the boat itself. Winter storage is about $300 as I understand it, so a trailer would have to wait, in part because it also means, most probably, a new vehicle, and my little brain can't handle ALL of the newness at once. Nor can my little pocketbook. There's nothing that I've seen so far, with my very limited understanding, that's putting me off the boat. I'd personally look at making some changes to it, but that's not an issue with the boat or with the current owner. Sharon and I have talked about it (after my son's rather enthusiastic report of the boat) and we're going to sleep on it; we're seriously considering throwing a conditional offer at the fellow and dragging some poor soul out to do a marine survey. If the survey doesn't reveal Bad Things, then that'd be that. The price clearly isn't big money, but if by some chance we'd just be effectively burning it, we'd at least like the option to warm our hands a little at the same time. Suddenly, lots to think about. Lots and lots. Crabby Rooster said: The price clearly isn't big money, but if by some chance we'd just be effectively burning it, we'd at least like the option to warm our hands a little at the same time.QUOTE] That's a great expression! You are writing some well balanced posts! The boat sounds good. Since it just came off the water at least you know it floats (don't laugh) and the standing rigging is holding up. Nice to get gear, but I wouldn't let that decide too much. For instance, I have tons of orange cheap life preservers that came with every boat. I use them for fenders, padding under straps, I cut them up, I throw them out. Safety gear gets old. Electronics get old. Focus on the boat, and get a good bilge pump and a hand pump as a minimum, along with plugs that will fit each through hull. Never hurts to carry some instant epoxy repair putty that works when wet, and a tube of non silicone caulking. I've removed and recaulked leaking fittings at anchor out on some island when I found drips in the bunk areas. I recently use Lexel, from the hardware store, and I was impressed, claims to work on wet and doesn't freeze, use to zero ° F. Solid decks are good. If you should later find that the main sheet attachment point is rotted, you just have to cut off the top layer, replace the plywood or balsa, and re-fiberglass the top back on. Dirty, but do-able. $300 for winter storage is a fantastic price compared to around here in Maine. Here it's a grand and up. Ask for a ball park estimate on the survey. Make sure you are not adding so much to the cost you'd regret it. I personally go against the advice always given. I don't get a survey on cheap boats, I look them over myself. But then, I've worked on a few boats and have some idea what I'm doing. Perhaps you could find a knowledgeable person to help you look. Remember that fiberglass can be fixed, get a book on it. I also only get liability insurance, I don't cover the boat if it's a cheap boat. I think the Tanzer 22 looks like a great boat, tank strong. My first post here was not to discourage you from it but more to keep you from feeling that you can't bargain or wait a bit, like your only chance will be gone. I always experience lust myself so that's the advice I give myself. I don't think you have mentioned the keel. The one I was semi serious about had a fixed keel, IIRC. I like fixed keels. Some apparently have swing keels, which I haven't seen. Advantages to both. Simplicity on the fixed, but much harder to self launch - need a deep ramp. Swing keel sits lower on the trailer and you can raise it when you bump bottom, but you must maintain the moving parts - the pivot pin and the lift cable and winch. There is no substitute for getting out on the water. Courses and books need some experience to make sense. Click to expand...  The Tanzer is the Canadian equivalent to the Catalina 22, but i think better made boat based on reputation. Its got a huge cockpit which is great for lots of people daysailing on a 22 footer but that means smaller cabin. I can't see 4 people camping out on one unless you want to store your boys in the cockpit at night. If you really want to buy a boat buy the most expensive one you can find. Not really but don't buy the cheapest one. Buy the best equipped boat for the money. Saving a $1000 on the purchase of your first boat is false economy if you then spend $7000 on a trailer and new sails the next summer. Even though you can store your boat for cheap in Canada, the value of having your boat on a trailer in your driveway can not be overestimated when it comes to winter projects.  Seriously, 1st, don't buy the boat without a trailer, 2nd, don't buy a boat going into winter, 3rd, don't buy the boat until you take the sailing course and maybe rent a few 18, 22 and 25ft boats. Also, surveying a 22 fit that's $2k is foolish, if you look at enough boats and read these forums you'll save yourself $300-400 which seems substantial to you. Without a trailer you are on the hook for slip fees for what 8 months? Have you checked out what that'll cost? Can you even get insurance for a mid 70's boat, etc.. In Ontario 25' and under can go on your home owners policy, I'm with allstate and they cover my boat BUT I had to have home and auto with them, I did anyway, they also cover motorcycles that way. No idea what happens if you don't have home owners insurance, would be up to the company writing the policy as to what they want to see. Good thing to look into if your in that position. I'll admit that I only buy boats going into winter, and I'm in Maine. The advantage is no one wants to look at the winter storage fees, and just general dealing with the boat - winterizing etc. So there is more incentive to unload the boat. Of course, I have to be ready to deal with everything myself. I don't mind winterizing. I usually empty the boat, removing panels and opening all spaces where mice could have hidden. I pressure wash it inside and out (including bilge) with cleaner and bleach and then rinse. I pump the bulk of the inside out with a basement sump pump, then bilge pump, then shop wet vacuum it. Got to get it totally water free, including any plumbing or engine cooling system (anti freeze in engine, pump non toxic anti freeze through the plumbing, then I usually vacuum it out anyway). Including emptying water tank and holding tank, and opening any valves anywhere, don't forget through hull valves which are hidden sometimes. Sails indoors where it's dry, attic, not basement (label them). I camp in the cockpit of small boats, I add a topping lift and buy a tarp that fits over the boom. Don't forget the other idea, I think it was Sal who mentioned sunfish sailboats. They are a bit too small but any old small sailboat will allow you to get the feel of sailing and try things out. Personally, as a child I spent a lot of time on sunfish and sailfish (no cockpit at all, just a big surfboard) and other centerboard types. Not comfortable, only keel boats are steady, but very good for learning, instills muscle memory like learning to ride a bicycle - it never leaves you. Helps to dump them over and get a feel for the limits and how to avoid them. No harm done when they tip, as long as they don't turtle in shallow spots and stick the mast in the bottom. OP: Any updates on your boat buying? Looking at a Tanzer 22 myself now. Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
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OEM/Standard Jib - 26.00SCoastal jib - 26.00s, oem/standard genoa - 27.75l, coastal genoa - 27.75l, oem/standard furling jib - 26.00s, coastal furling jib - 26.00s, oem/standard furling genoa - 27.00m, coastal 135% furling genoa - 27.00m, oem/standard 150% furling genoa - 26.50l, coastal 150% furling genoa - 26.50l, oem/standard mainsail - 23.00m, coastal mainsail - 23.00m, mainsail cover - 9.5 ft boom, cruising asymmetrical spinnaker - size 0, c-290 coastal furling system (std headstay: 40'), storm jib - 12.0.
Posted 2024-07-17 17:31 Contact Information: 1978 Tanzer 22 Sailboat with Trailer - $7,500 (Kalispell, MT) google map QR Code Link to This Post post id: 7767185923 posted: 2024-07-17 17:31 ♥ best of [ ? ] refresh the page. 1978 Tanzer 22 Sailboat with Trailer - boats - by owner - marine...Boat has been well maintained and is in solid condition. 1997 Honda 4 stroke 8 HP outboard, runs great and has been mostly in fresh water. Has custom made trailer (5 years old) that tows great even... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The TANZER 22 was the most popular of all the Tanzer models. Most were constructed in Dorion, Que.(CAN). But some were produced in Edenton., N.C. (USA), (270 boats) and in Arlington, WA (USA). ... A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0 ...
The Catalina 22, a contemporary of the T-22, weighs 2,150 pounds. The more modern J/22 is just 1,790 pounds (and she's hardly the lightest racer/cruiser available in this size range.) It's natural to think of displacement as "dead weight," especially in a small boat where size puts an effective limit on sail area.
The Tanzer 22 is a 22.5ft masthead sloop designed by Johann Tanzer and built in fiberglass by Tanzer Industries Ltd. between 1970 and 1986. 2271 units have been built. The Tanzer 22 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
The Tanzer 22 is a Canadian trailerable sailboat, that was designed by Johann Tanzer and first built in 1970. The design went out of production in 1986. ... Later the Tanzer 22 class association acquired the sailboat design, tooling and the rights to the name, through a share-sale to its members. It is not known if they have constructed any boats.
The Tanzer 22 cb is a 22.5ft masthead sloop designed by Johann Tanzer and built in fiberglass between 1970 and 1986. 200 units have been built. The Tanzer 22 cb is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
Tanzer 22 is a 22′ 6″ / 6.9 m monohull sailboat designed by Johann Tanzer and built by Tanzer Industries Ltd. between 1970 and 1986. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... The TANZER 22 was the most popular of all the Tanzer models. Most were constructed in Dorion, Que.(CAN). But some were produced in ...
Discount Sails-Tanzer_22. Electric Yacht. Boating Closeout Non-BR. Pelagic Autopilots. top 1 ads row1. top 2 ads row2. top 3 ads row2. Tanzer 22 . www.tanzer22.com. ... 1 Sailboats / Per Page: 25 / Page: 1. 0 CLICK to COMPARE . MODEL LOA FIRST BUILT FAVORITE COMPARE; TANZER 22: 22.50 ft / 6.86 m: 1970: ShipCanvas. KiwiGrip. Bruntons ...
The Tanzer 22 t4 is a 22.5ft masthead sloop designed by Johann Tanzer and built in fiberglass by Tanzer Industries Ltd. since 1970. The Tanzer 22 t4 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
Designed by Johann Tanzer, the Tanzer 22 was originally built exclusively in Canada but now the line is built also in North Carolina and Washington, giving the boat wide-spread geographical distribution as well as saving on duty for US buyers. Dating from 1970, the 22 has been a staple in the Tanzer line as the number of 22s approaches 2000 boats.
Founded by Johann Tanzer, Tanzer Industries Ltd. was one of the largest sailboat manufacturer in Canada for more than 20 years. The Tanzer line ranged from 16 to 35 feet. The most successful model was the TANZER 22 with more than 2200 built. But other models including the 26 were also built in large numbers. In it's heyday Tanzer built boats on both coasts of the U.S., but the factory at ...
As of January 2015 the Tanzer 22 Association is officially not active. The web page domain is funded to 2021 so all the useful archived info remains accessible. ... He is able to search for sailboats based on his clients' wishes as expressed by boat dimensions, comparative ratios, designer name, builder name, and even configurational parameters ...
Tanzer 22 #2104 "Brave and Crazy". This is a webpage about my Tanzer 22 sailboat. On this site, you'll find information about my process of researching my boat, how I chose her name, reviews of the Tanzer 22, and an ongoing list of projects and modifications to the boat. In chronological order, you can visit. my pages about:
Quebec's Tanzer Industries Ltd. launched the first Johann Tanzer-designed Tanzer 22 in 1970. The launch was well-timed, for the ensuing decade brought unprecedented growth to the sport of sailing. This small sailboat surfed into the leaders of the fleet of vessels in this size range which builders turned out in great numbers to satisfy the demand for introductory ballasted boats.
The Tanzer 22 measures 22' 6" length overall with a beam of 7' 10". Most were built with a swept back fin keel drawing 3' 5", although a keel-centerboard version that drew 2' with the board up and 4' with the board down was an option. Because of the emphasis on performance, most boats were sold with the fin keel.
The Tanzer 22 is a sailboat designed by the Canadian maritime architect Johann Tanzer. The Tanzer 22 is built by the Canadian yard Tanzer. Here we would have liked to show you nice photos of the Tanzer 22. If you have a photo you would like to share: Upload Image. Looking for a new boat?
Tanzer 22 CB is a 22′ 6″ / 6.9 m monohull sailboat designed by Johann Tanzer and built by Tanzer Industries Ltd. between 1970 and 1986. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. Sign in to save them permanently, access them on any device, and receive relevant alerts.
Sail Sloop. Length. 22ft. Year. 1973. Model. 22 Sloop. Capacity-Waterline Boats LLC. 2400 Westlake Ave N, Seattle, 98109, United States. View phone number. Name. ... This Tanzer 22 is well updated and well equipped with a Honda 9.9hp outboard, navigation electronics, and an assortment of foresails. The wiring and electrical system have been ...
Overview. Founded by Johann Tanzer, Tanzer Industries Ltd. was one of the largest sailboat manufacturer in Canada for more than 20 years. The Tanzer line ranged from 16 to 35 feet. The most successful model was the TANZER 22 with more than 2200 built. But other models including the 26 were also built in large numbers.
Jun 1, 2010. #1. Looking at a Tanzer 22 on it's trailer, been setting idle for 6-8 years covered with leaves and mold under trees. I am intrigued by it's V-shape hull , looks like it would ride the waves or a rough sea better than my O'day 22 which is pretty much flat bottom. Looks like it may have more interior cabin room than my O'day.
Tanzer 22 Review. This unusual, flush-deck 1970s-era boat draws a bit too much to be a true trailer-sailer, but her performance nearly rivals a J/24. The cockpit is big, but the cabin quite small. We originally reviewed the Tanzer 22 in the December 1, 1981 issue, but a friend of ours did such a good job restoring the 25-year-old T-22 he ...
The Tanzer is the Canadian equivalent to the Catalina 22, but i think better made boat based on reputation. Its got a huge cockpit which is great for lots of people daysailing on a 22 footer but that means smaller cabin. I can't see 4 people camping out on one unless you want to store your boys in the cockpit at night.
Mainsail Area: 103.5 ft 2. Total S.A (100% Fore+Main ) 225.2 ft 2. Mainsails, Headsails and Downwind Sails for Tanzer Sailboats in-stock and ready to ship.
Easy boat to sail and lots of fun. In years past, The Tanzer 22 had been the workhorse training vessel for the Chesapeake Sailing School for 18 years. The school had maintained 10 Tanzer 22s for training and rental. post id: 7767185923. posted: 2024-07-17 17:31.
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