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Catalina Morgan 44
Catalina Morgan 44 is a 43 ′ 11 ″ / 13.4 m monohull sailboat designed by Nelson Marek and built by Morgan Yachts and Catalina Yachts starting in 1988.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
LOA: Length overall in feet
Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
Thought to be an adaptation of the MORGAN 43. A similar version was sold as CSY 445.
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Review of Morgan 44
Basic specs..
The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season.
The boat equipped with a masthead rig. The advantage of a masthead rig is its simplicity and the fact that a given sail area - compared with a fractional rig - can be carried lower and thus with less heeling moment.
The Morgan 44 is equipped with a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel.
The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.52 - 1.62 meter (4.99 - 5.29 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
The boat is typically equipped with an inboard Yanmar 4JH2-ME diesel engine at 50 hp (37 kW).
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 8.0 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Morgan 44 is about 296 kg/cm, alternatively 1659 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 296 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1659 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Sailing statistics
This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.
What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?
What is a Ballast Ratio?
Maintenance
When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 45m 2 (484 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.
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If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
Usage
Length
Diameter
Mainsail halyard
36.7 m
(120.5 feet)
14 mm
(0.55 inch)
Jib/genoa halyard
36.7 m
(120.5 feet)
14 mm
(0.55 inch)
Spinnaker halyard
36.7 m
(120.5 feet)
14 mm
(0.55 inch)
Jib sheet
13.4 m
(44.0 feet)
16 mm
(5/8 inch)
Genoa sheet
13.4 m
(44.0 feet)
16 mm
(5/8 inch)
Mainsheet
33.5 m
(110.0 feet)
16 mm
(5/8 inch)
Spinnaker sheet
29.5 m
(96.8 feet)
16 mm
(5/8 inch)
Cunningham
4.3 m
(14.2 feet)
14 mm
(0.55 inch)
Kickingstrap
8.7 m
(28.5 feet)
14 mm
(0.55 inch)
Clew-outhaul
8.7 m
(28.5 feet)
14 mm
(0.55 inch)
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1988 Morgan 44
Thread starter DJW
Start date Dec 2, 2013
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Was the 1988 Morgan 44 considered a blue water boat or more of a coastal cruiser? Any thoughts on the 1988 Morgan 44? Looking at one to take to HI Dennis
Barnacle Bill
Charlie Morgan designed the earlier Morgan boats and they are considered to be off shore boats. Nelson Marek designed the Morgan 44 now built by Catalina Yachts. It is considered to be capable of offshore passage-making.
The ballast/displacement ratio, sail area/displacement, and displacement/length all indicate an ocean cruiser . The center cockpit is handy on open ocean trips. But the real question is what is the condition of a 25 year old boat? Rig, electrical, auxiliary, hull/deck flange, keel, drive.
The name has been carried on by Catalina but that is as far as it gets.
Is that the Out Island series. They were supposed to be offshore boats. well made but lousy performers.
Chris Patterson
I thought those Out-Islands were basically ex-charter boats. I comed one over pretty good awhile back, and liked the center cockpit ketch thingy, and the flush for'ard decks look fast. The owner said it was a pig though, right so because they rented them out. I didn't sail it though, just hearsay from the owner. Who didn't look very fast hisself..
The Morgan 44 is NOT an out island series boat. They were built years before.
Merlin Clark
There is a Morgan Yachts facebook page with over 300 members if you'd like to contact owners. https://www.facebook.com/groups/morganyachts/
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Three coats of white Imron and two coats of clear are the secret to the shiny topsides on Liberty, our 1980 Morgan 46 sloop. These were the finishing touches of the total refit we completed in 2001.
Other than the fiberglass hull and aluminum spars, we, and her previous owners before us, replaced almost everything from the plumbing and wiring to the sails and standing rigging. We fitted modern electronics, a powerful refrigeration system, two 16,000-BTU reverse-cycle air-conditioning units, a 1,000-amp- hour battery bank, and a 3,000-watt inverter. To eliminate this model’s penchant for leaks, we replaced the original plastic ports with more seamanlike stainless-steel ones, teak handrails with stainless steel, and the teak toerails with aluminum, which also meant less teak to varnish.
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Over a period of about six years beginning in 1978, Morgan Yachts produced several versions of the Morgan 46, including one for bareboat charter. Today, they list at prices from well under $100,000 to over $200,000. Time has proven the design, and Liberty’s refit shows that with dedication and adequate money for upgrades, you can bring a 25-year-old vessel up to par with more recent models.
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04-03-2011, 19:08
Boat: Morgan 45 CC
44 : I'd really like to hear some feedback of what you guys think.
that can take us coastal cruising and for longer hauls when we want to. Here are my pros and cons as I see it. Would love some feedback:
for going up and down and (where we're starting) Stall (intend to stay out more than in marinas) and at nav station Tank and working on the boat access. ? Yikes (will need to put this in definitely) bank and capability. Probably need high output and 400+ah (will need to upgrade grid) or generators ... but the ones on her are in good shape. via Sugar Scoops etc... but i can live with that. (so i get choose mine) only that 135% . Would need to buy a good storm sail. and our way up and down during the seasons and over to the ... but then eventually would like to move out to the and to the and we dream about one day working our way out to the . We'll be staying out away from out more to save and be in nature. I know not all can do everything, but we'd like to get as far as we can in 1 boat instead of many over the years. This boat seems solidly constructed and I feel she's but I suppose the will tell me the rest.
04-03-2011, 19:56
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
is a con. Puts everything in reach and convenient. Able to brace yourself when necessary.
Boat looks pretty nice.
bank's know big deal, I would have updated someones old bank anyway. The winds blow true,The skies stay blue, Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
04-03-2011, 20:05
Boat: Morgan 45 CC
is a con. Puts everything in reach and convenient. Able to brace yourself when necessary.
Boat looks pretty nice.
Battery bank's know big deal, I would have updated someones old bank anyway.
04-03-2011, 20:11
Boat: Cooper 416 Honeysuckle
with the is a nice size and I love the stern stateroom. You don't mention a so I don't suppose the AC is going to provide much value. It looks really clean.
05-03-2011, 05:03
Boat: none
on the 44 recently. And thought is was as close as a perfect cruiser/live aboard boat around. It is even a fast cruiser a good sail area ratio. I though the only downside was the capacity, but there is so much water capactity that a tank can be redone. If you use some "perfect" cruiser boat checklist the M-44 will pretty much meet all the check points.
So if you feel the boat is good buy get it and stop making yourself crazy!
05-03-2011, 11:48
Boat: Nassau 42 SV Ceol Mor
and sea trial. Make sure you sail it in less than perfect . Lots of room below and yes, it would make a great . Its just maybe not the most secure feeling boat in . I never felt unsafe or anything of the like, it just surprised me that it felt as as it did.
05-03-2011, 12:02
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
list it seems to have been a "marina queen". That is, it is equipped to be lived aboard whilst alongside rather than at .
If you do intend to live on the hook, there will be extensive and expensive alterations to make. You may well have factored this into your consideration, but thought that I would make note of it.
It should sail well from the numbers, and from the N/M heritage. Hope that it turns out well for you.
Cheers,
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II lying Morning Cove, NSW, Oz
05-03-2011, 12:21
Boat: Boatless
and . Also the standing is 21 yrs old and if the headstay and backstay have been replaced the rest is due.
If the is original it might be high hours and close to a .
It is poorly equipped for cruising, you need to the necessary additions...you might find a fully equipped boat more cost efficient. Check all the ones on Yachtworld and set up a spread sheet to accurately compare values.
Also remember that the value of old is a negative number...what it will cost to rip them out!
Remember it is very easy to buy a $99,999 boat, spend $30,000 and finish up with a $100,000 boat.
The has already been dropped $25,000! It was priced in Euros which is very unusual in a US boat. If the owners cash basis is in Euros the low dollar might be inflating what the owner is trying to recoup. They have spent making it cosmetically very nice but a new job does very little to improve unlike a , and which together equal the cost of a new job.
05-03-2011, 12:39
Boat: Morgan 45 CC
thought is to wait until we find another or something similar with a better list. I feel I'm going to spend about $30-40k to get this boat to be what i want. I'm not really wanting lots of systems to take care of, i just want a boat that fits our needs more closely. I feel this boat has great bones and could be a great platform but if Im going to sink $100k into a boat, I'd like to have some extra and have it at least 70% on the way to being a boat we could use for the job we will expect from it. "Marina Queen" is the only thing that makes sense to me... It's a capable boat that's been sitting around in all its life. It's probably in good condition even more because of that, however I just can't find it in myself to endeavor on such a huge on our first big boat .
: $2500 : $4000 : $1500 : $1500 $23,000 just for what I know now... i'm sure another $10k is to be expected. Then i'm looking at a $130k boat that's probably now worth $110k.
05-03-2011, 13:55
Boat: CyberYacht 43
time; every job has to be learned first, and then planned. The list above may look short but on my slow progress I'd be looking at 2 years to complete it. Some bits might never be completed.
I'd also get a competent to have a good look at the engine/transmission/fuel system. It can be another 6 months if this isn't right. Same goes for the and sails - do this before the survey (could save on a survey...).
I can't see this boat as being that . A can list for $135k, and ought to be in way better condition than this boat.
If I were another boat a sugar scoop stern would be on top of my list.
05-03-2011, 16:13
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
$1100
5. Build brackets on top of $2-300
8. With solar why spend that much on an alternator 70-100 amp should be plenty couple of hundred $
9. price is about right for a900 AH bank.
That's what I'd do. IMO you don't need to add extre weight at the stern if you can adapt the to hold your panels.
try The winds blow true,The skies stay blue, Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
06-03-2011, 07:48
Boat: Morgan 45 CC
panels $1100
5. Build brackets on top of davits $2-300
8. With solar why spend that much on an alternator 70-100 amp should be plenty couple of hundred $
9. price is about right for a900 AH bank.
That's what I'd do. IMO you don't need to add extre weight at the stern if you can adapt the davits to hold your panels.
try
06-03-2011, 11:56
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
at windsun, look around the site, they are $490 and $535 each for 215 watt panels.
Your 4 batteries are only 400 AH @ 12V.
Go to and check the prices, get discount for big purchases, each location makes different discounts. Also, I use lead acid batteries. The winds blow true,The skies stay blue, Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
06-03-2011, 12:06
Boat: Morgan 45 CC
and check the prices, get discount for big purchases, each location makes different discounts. Also, I use lead acid batteries.
06-03-2011, 16:08
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
The winds blow true,The skies stay blue, Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
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At the St. Petersburg Boat Show month last month, I had the pleasure of seeing delivery skipper and author John Kretschmers presentation on what he called sailboats for a serious ocean. I have reservations about any ideal boat list, but Kretschmer, who reviews boats for Sail Magazine and whose most recent book Sailing a Serious Ocean is available in our online bookstore , has the ideal background for this sort of work, and a list like this is undeniably helpful for wannabe cruisers who need a place to start their search.
I certainly wouldnt limit my search to boats on such a list, but by paying careful attention to the pros and cons of each, you can find something that suits your own aspirations.
Here are the boats Kretschmer suggests: Contessa 32, Pacific Seacraft 34, Pretorien 35, Cape Dory/Robinhood 36, Valiant/Esprit 37, Prout Snowgoose 37, Alajuela 38, Privelege 39, Freya 39, Passport 40, Caliber 40, Baba 40, Hallberg Rassy 42, Taswell 43, Hylas 44, Norseman 447, Beneteau 456, Outbound 44, Hylas 46, Kaufman 47, Tayana 48, Hylas 49, Amel Maramu 53, and the Sundeer 60/64. For a brief capsule summary of each, be sure to check out his website.
The list is hardly definitive. There are plenty of good boats that arent featured, and some of these would be ill-matched for the wrong sailor-Kretschmer clearly pointed this out during his talk. I like how the list presents a good cross-section of the various shapes and sizes for a boat in this category. For example, Kretschmer includes the Prout Snowgoose and Steve Dashews Sundeer 60, boats that, notwithstanding their successful record at sea, fill an outlying niche.
If I were going to expand the list, one of the heavier-displacement microcruisers like those I blogged about would be a nice addition. Although I would be wary of promoting even the most formidable of this breed as well-suited for a serious ocean, John Neale of Mahina Tiare Expeditions includes one of them, the Dana 24, on his own list of recommend cruising boats . Neales much broader list of boats is accompanied by a very helpful discussion of design elements to consider.
What got me thinking about formidable cruising boats was our series of reports o n sailboat construction , focusing specifically on structural details. Although there are plenty of excellent coastal cruisers on the market, once you start talking about offshore duty, scan’tlings (the dimensions for structural components) take on far more importance.
A few years ago we touched on this subject in our Mailport section, encouraging readers to suggest their own nominees for a list of what we called at the time, tough boats, vessels that were built to take a beating, requiring minimal care and upkeep.
Here are some of the boats that were suggested from our readers: Mariner 36, Cal 34, Morgan 43, Swan 43, Bermuda 40, Island Packet 26, Mariner 47, LeComte Northeast 38, Westsail 32, Dana 24, J/35, and the CSY 44.
Id be interested in hearing of other nominees for this list, or other good resources for sailors looking for a short list of good offshore boats.
For those who are frustrated to find that their own ideal boat isn’t on anybodys list, I wouldnt be too miffed. The best line Ive heard in a while on this topic came from Steve Callahan, the author of the survival classic Adrift , who gave a presentation at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Show . When I asked Steve, who has sailed extensively on both multihulls and monohulls, what type of boat he preferred, he said, quite seriously. Well, at the end of the day, the best cruising boat is the one that you are on.
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Interesting list. I am fond of Hylas of which you chose three models. However, I am suspect of their yard and construction techniques and do not have confidence that they are as strong as they are beautiful. Only one Hallberg-Rassy was selected, which is a far more robust and dry sailing boat than the Hylas. Passports make a good boat as does Cape Dory and several others on your list. Didn’t four sailors die on a Beneteau in 2018? Over all it is a decent list.
I believe this is the accident you’re talking about in which a Beneteau and it’s bolted on keel parted company.
Almost all of the sailing clubs in San Diego rent Beneteaus out. They are a decent coastal sailboat. I have a couple friends who have even made the crossing to Maui in them..not me, not ever. I consider them a living room boat. Having said that, I am certainly no expert so its just my opinion. If I am crossing an ocean I want a capable kindly strong boat with redundancy built into critical systems.
Curious to think what people think about the early 70s Swan 43 as a cruising boat for a couple with occasional guests for a round the world trip? I have an S&S 30 which is too small but I do have some bias towards their designs. Add a watermaker and some power generation and off you go… Any thoughts?
Are Motor Sailors like the Nauticats or Fishers ocean worthy ( if their pilot house windows and sliding doors are lifeboatified ? )
Walt Schulz’s Shannon 43 is a beautiful, sea kindly, comfortable and sturdy bluewater boat. Walt had not only the ICW and Bahamas in mind when he designed and built 52 of them. He designed for ocean cruising. He believes his boats should outlive him and still sailing for generations. We sailed the Chesapeake, Bahamas, Caribbean and Pacific to Australia on a Shannon 43 ketch. She took great care of us and is still turning heads.
Great article! John Kretchmer is one of my fave modern day sailors. While there is only one Crealock design on John’s list, and the Dana is added on John Neale’s list, I was surprised not to see a Crealock/ Pacific Seacraft 37 mentioned. But there are so many great serious off shore boats, it’s hard to narrow it down to 10. Here’s a few to think about. Cape George Cutter 36. Biscay 36, tradewind 35, Rustler 36, Nicholson 31 (never talked about) and 32. Seldom seen on top 10 lists, but great boats. Thanks for the article.
Great comment and interesting to note that the first four of your additions are those currently entered in the 2022 Golden Globe Race – kind of the definition of a blue water boat.
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I am looking for a boat to replace my recently sold CS 36. We cruise the Keys and the Bahamas and plan to extend that to include the Caribbean and the NE U.S. The N/M cc Morgan 43 has been recommended to us as a cruising sailboat that performs relatively well and is well built. I am interested in any comments from those who have knowledge about this boat.
Although you sometimes see the CC cockpit Morgan 43 listed as a Nelson Merek (N/M) design, these boats were not actually designed by Nelson Merek. They were originally constructed by Morgan and for Hirsh Yacht Charters. A lot of these boats went into the charter fleets and I would avoid one of those. They were later constructed by Catalina/Morgan. These boats offer a lot of value for what they are. They are roomy and reasonably well constructed with a nicely modeled hull shape for a boat of this type. I would not call them fast by any stretch of the imagination but they do seem to sail reasonably well. If I were looking for a boat of this general type, I would also take a look at the Helly (also listed as Kelly Peterson or just Peterson)Peterson 44 which is a similar concept but which has always struck me as being a better sea boat. After seeing a Peterson 44, you may find the Catalina/Morgan 43 more to your liking but at least you would have a point of comparason. Good luck Jeff
Go to the Sailnet, Morgan list and ask away. You will learn more about Morgans than you ever wanted to know. Also look into the Morgan List archives, your question has been asked of that board before. good luck John_/)_/)_/)
Lord, I hate to be snippy or judgemental, but really now Jeff, you really do need to get over your unbelievable predjudice against Morgans. Interestingly, for all the criticisms I hear about Morgans....most are unwarranted or at best menial. If one wants a narrow cramped boat to race....hey, great....but me I prefer my 33 Morgan Out Islander. Its full beam is usable, its comfortable, and it cruises well. Prettiest boat in the world? Probably not, but I am happy with her. And while she wasn''t the most expensive boat in the marina, she has proven to be stable, reliable, and well found. My neighbor lives on an M-43, and frankly its a pretty nice boat. A body could do far worse than a nice M-43, or any Morgan for that matter. Happy New Year, Jeff.
I do not have predudice against Morgans. I like the early Morgans that were built in the 1960''s and early 1970''s and I like the 43 for what it is as well. I also liked the Morgan 27 and Nelson Marek designed 36 in their day. I also think that if someone is looking for a cheap liveaboard and doesn''t care much about sailing ability or build quality, then the OI series is fine. But I have worked on and sailed on enough of these boats to have come to that opinion from my own direct experience. Jeff
Ahoy, gentleman, Hey Rob your boats twice as pretty as mine and three times as expensive, and your absolutley right. Keep in mind Jeff_ is getting paid by the word and our market is not on his list. And Jeff_ you ruffle more sails with your keyboard than a stiff nor''easter. Drop anchor and have a drink with the rest of us will you?. Big Red 56.
Jeez, Guys, you must be awfully tender if my keyboard''s vertual zephers ruffles your sails more than a stiff nor''easter. You folks have me very wrong. I have nothing against people buying inexpensive boats and enjoying them for what they are. I am not an advocate of going out and buying the latest and greatest. Pretty much all of my adult life I have purchased comparatively inexpensive boats. (with the exception of my Laser 28 which was nearly new when I bought her), every boat that I have ever bought has needed some degree of restoration. This has allowed me to own a bunch of interesting boats. I come to this, as with any of the Bulletin Boards that I participate in to learn from the discussions that take and to help others. When someone asks about a particular boat that I actually know something about, I try to descibe what I know as acurately as I can. I try not to hype a boat up, but neither do I sugar coat my comments. To do otherwise is a disservice to the person asking the question of to others who read this discussion to learn. While there are people who are very defensive about one manufacturer or another (go back and read my comments on the Morgan 43 that occur earlier in this thread and tell on which line "my unbelieveable predjudice against Morgan occurs.) and they may get defensive when they fell I have gored their sacred cow, in general my comments seem to be well recieved. Not everyone has to buy the same boats that any of us would buy for ourselves. Chill Dudes. Most of us like or can justify the boats that we own, warts, pimples, and all. And while each of our current boat may be the exact right boat for each of us in our current situation, in describing our experience with a particular make and model to someone who has posted a question looking for objective opinions, we should each try to be fair in our assessment and let the chips fall where they may. So chill Dudes. Grab a beer and celebrate the beginning of a new year and that the amount of sunlight getting longer with each passing day. I''d be delighted to raft up with you and I''ll bring the beer. (If you want to discuss this further off the board feel free to email me at <[email protected]>) For me, I''m going back to discussing boats. Respectfully, Jeff
HEY! Jeff does not need anyone to defend him but I personally feel that this board benefits most when comments are not personal or directed at any individual. Many of us have benefitted from Jeff''s comments and the comments of other folks that have a clear point of view. I think some of the best information I have garnered from this board has been when there have been two diametrically opposed advocates discussing an issue or a boat. Like in a courtroom argument, one comes to one''s own conclusion after hearing the debate. A good debate benefits us all. Jeff has a well known preference for the type of modern, light displacement boats he advocates. He makes this perfectly clear. Many others favor more traditional heavy offshore cruisers. I personally value the discourse between the two camps. It has helped focus my own thoughts and firm up my personal preferences. I have also seen other boards deteriorate when individual posters are personally attacked. I think Sailnet is about the last board I regularly participate in because of this. So, as a member here, I request that we keep the discussion above a personal level. Lets stick to what we are most interested in. If someone has an argument for the Morgan 43, let them make it on a technical basis and lets argue that, not with each other. Respectfully,
Ahoy John Drake , of course in a perfect world we would all love each other and never be human. The differences of opinion and personal style are just as interesting as what is not always said. If you think that even worse behavior dosen''t come out on a race course you need to recheck the old mirrors in you sextant. Personally I love all of the folks here at sailnet and I would not be here long if I thought that blowing smoke up each others exhaust pipes was good for business. That said mabye we need SAILNET to make a new dicussion heading on the mental and personal side of sailors and relationships with each other.On the other hand I will be the first to admit that A dry , un-funny, unprovocative,site is boring. We are a family and the amount of information (True) that we share with each other and the rest of the world about ourselves is why this site is so great. I am who I am and its refreshing to have this forum. So Jeff_ Will you marry me? Big Red56
Marry you? If I wanted to be married to someone who nitpicked every thing that I had to say, then, I''d remarry my first wife. *^) Thanks John for you call for civility. Regards Jeff
JEFF_H: Personally, I''m partial to red heads, but that sure doesn''t mean I don''t like blondes! We appreciate your insight and objectivity. I agree with JohnDrake, lets stick to discussing boats.. Happy New Year el
Golly Jeepers.....wow....I gotta sit down and open another beer!! Like BigRed...I like everyone here....even though I''m already married....and my comments to Jeff weren''t meant "nastily"! It was just a "fun hot across the bow" for New Years. Actually I thought his comments about the Morgan 43 were pretty good, not to mention "fair...and pretty much unbiased". I hadn''t been around these parts for awhile...and saw an opportunity to have alittle fun...thats all. This goes back a ways...when we bandied about about Morgans.....probably so deep in the archives they can''t be dug up........ Jeff, like many of the other people on this board are virtual libraries of information and knowledge.....and understanding that I may not be the brightest candle on the cake, I look to others for information that I need and I am most grateful for the fact that I can tap these wellsprings freely. If I offended anyone....I apologize. It was not my intention to do so. Happy New Year to ALL!!
jeff, i understand you are in annapolis. what is your line of work down there? eric
jeff H, i understand you are in annapolis. what is your line of work down there? eric
I am an architect with my own firm. My office does a wide range of building types. These days I do nothing commercial with boats or sailing. Boats are strictly a hobby and although I help people find suitable boats, I do nothing for money in the maritime world (except write articles). That was not always the case. When I first came to this area I worked as a yacht designer in Charlie Whitholz''s office and I have worked as a yacht designer at various times in my life. When I had a practice in Savannah, part of my practice included designing repairs and alterations to boats for local boat yards, so I got to see a lot of damaged boats. I also worked on and off in boat yards from the time I was 14 until I graduated from college. I''ve had my hands in a lot of resin over the years. I also get to sail on a lot of boats. Mostly this comes from racing. I have raced boats since I was 14. I still do but I also get invited aboard boats, to help people ''sort'' them out. People who see me on the net or know me around town will email and ask me about something that they are trying to figure out on their boat. Sometimes it is a sail trim or rigging question that, if I have time, I very often will end up sailing with them to help analyze what I have been asked to help with. Regards Jeff
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44'. $ 84,900. Catalina Morgan 44 is a center cockpit with two stateroom, 2 heads, that has the room and sailing quality's that your would expect in a Sailboat designed to go offshore. The original owner is a knowledgeable sailor who has taken great pains to make her a island ready vessel.
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