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Creekmore 45

The creekmore 45 is a 46.0ft cutter designed by ray creekmore and built in fiberglass since 1981., 26 units have been built..

The Creekmore 45 is a heavy sailboat which is under powered. It is very stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a heavy bluewater cruising boat.

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The Creekmore 45 is equipped with a long keel. A long keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space.

The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 1.37 - 1.47 meter (4.49 - 4.79 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Creekmore 45 is 1.53, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 7.9 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Creekmore 45 is about 272 kg/cm, alternatively 1523 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 272 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1523 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

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Raymond Creekmore

Raymond Creekmore is best known as a prolific artist and author, as well as a designer and builder of sailboats. Father of Lee Creekmore, also a designer of sailboats.

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I am looking for any Creekmore owners out there. We recently purchased a 45'' Creekmore. We are going to spend the next year refitting the interior (all but the V-birth and the salon). She is out of the water and we bought the stands as well. It is ketch rigged with an 83hp Yanmar. Just looking for some other owners to talk with. Thanks [email protected]  

I have a Creekmore 30 that I am slowly working on. Where are you located? Regards, Jeffrey [email protected]  

Creekmore Welcome to the Creekmore family of boats. As is the custom of a Creekmore owner to another to sail up and along side to say Hi and let you know you are not alone and part if that was the case or to talk if at anchor. Many a time we'd see fellow Creekmores and pay them a visit on the water after spying them through binocs. Welcome to the others that will follow. There are owners all around the world so Keep an eye out for that Creekmore logo.  

Creekmore 36 I am a part owner of a Creekmore 36 (I measured her and she is 36 ft 11 inches but according to Ryan Neve, a Creekmore 37 was never built). The boat is kept in Egg Harbor, Wisconsin during the summer and in Sturgeon Bay in the winter. We sail Green Bay, Lake Michigan, and North Channel. The boat's name is "Georgia." I would enjoy chatting with other Creekmore owners, particularly with the owners of sister ships.  

Scoopy said: I am a part owner of a Creekmore 36 (I measured her and she is 36 ft 11 inches but according to Ryan Neve, a Creekmore 37 was never built). The boat is kept in Egg Harbor, Wisconsin during the summer and in Sturgeon Bay in the winter. We sail Green Bay, Lake Michigan, and North Channel. The boat's name is "Georgia." I would enjoy chatting with other Creekmore owners, particularly with the owners of sister ships. Click to expand...

I recently built a hard dodger and replaced decking and part of the cockpit of a Creekmore 45 sloop.The boat sails well, congrats on your purchase.  

Creekmore 36 Owner It is good to hear from other Creekmore owners out there. I purchased Magic, an early 60's Creekmore 36 with hull number 509038, in May 2006 from St augustine (FL) Yacht Sales. I brought the boat to Lake Lanier near Altanta in NE Georgia. There seems to be two listing for her on the <40' Creekmore Owners page. One of the ads lists her as being built in 1960 but the Coast Guard records I obtained start with 1967 in MA. While the hull was in trremendous shape and th intertior very clean, I have done quite a few projects to make her ready for daily sailing. The post from the Great Lakes region regarding their Creekmore 36 is eciting. The only other 36 I have seen was for sale on Long Island and in terrible shape having been on the hard and unattanded for 7 years. For a couple pictures of Magic: CreekmoreJohn.blogspot.com.  

CreekmoreJohn said: Creekmore 36 Owner It is good to hear from other Creekmore owners out there. I purchased Magic, an early 60's Creekmore 36 with hull number 509038, in May 2006 from St augustine (FL) Yacht Sales. I brought the boat to Lake Lanier near Altanta in NE Georgia. There seems to be two listing for her on the <40' Creekmore Owners page. One of the ads lists her as being built in 1960 but the Coast Guard records I obtained start with 1967 in MA. While the hull was in trremendous shape and th intertior very clean, I have done quite a few projects to make her ready for daily sailing. The post from the Great Lakes region regarding their Creekmore 36 is eciting. The only other 36 I have seen was for sale on Long Island and in terrible shape having been on the hard and unattanded for 7 years. For a couple pictures of Magic: CreekmoreJohn.blogspot.com. Click to expand...

Creekmore 36s Hello Creekmore John, I have measured my "Creekmore 36" as 36 ft 11 inches. Strange that they would call it a "36." The beam measurement is 10 ft 0 inches. According to Ryan Neve's web site for Creekmores, there were only 36s and 38s. How does yours measure? Where did you find the hull number? Different "documents" say ours was built in 1962 or 1963 (none of the definitive). I would be happy to exchange photos with you, particularly of the interior layout but perhaps more tellingly the hull shape at distinctive points. I've got Skype and would be willing to call you and talk as long as you can stand it! Looking forward to a reply. Scoopy  

Creekmore 36s Hello Creekmore John, I live in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin. The name of my boat is "Georgia" -- named after the three men named George who were the original owners of the boat (a partnership). In summer, the boat is docked in Egg Harbor. In winter, the boat is stored in Sturgeon Bay. Thanks for the photos. The interior layout is quite different. From the picture of "Magic" under sail, I see many similarities but also some differences: tiller steering, hatch on the deck aft of the mast, dorade vents. I can't see enough detail to tell if you have a centerboard pennant that comes out of the cabin house roof aft of the mast (but forward of the hatch on your boat). I have been back along the starboard side, aft, below the deck many times and have never seen evidence of a hull number. I will certainly look more carefully the next time I am there. If the numbers were embossed into the hull, it would have been impossible not to have noticed them. I will look through my collection of photos to see if I can find some that will show you features of "Georgia" that would help us to make comparisons. I would really like to have the opportunity to exchange more information. We can continue like this, or go at via private e-mail exchanges, or do it by telephone. What would be comfortable for you? Looking forward to hearing from you. Scoopy  

Creekmore John, I didn't see the picture of "Magic" in the travel lift until just now. The view of the hull below the water line looks a lot like "Georgia." In the picture of "Magic" under sail, I think I see only one dorade vent. If it were on my boat, it would ventilate the head. I also see a jack stay. Is your boat cutter rigged? I ask because the boom on "Georgia" use to extend over the cockpit with the main sheet trimmed with a winch on the after deck. I am told they took about 6 feet off the boom. Maybe this was done when the staysail was removed. Taking the staysail off without shortening the boom would have created a tremendous weather helm. Can you comment about whether the Creekmore 36s were cutter rigged? Scoopy  

Thanks for the quick reply. I haven't posted the minimum number of public posts to qualify for the private post yet. There are two dorades, one over the head and one over the table. I interpret that Magic had the main sheet system aft of the cockpit at some point. The boom is the older boom round shape that permitted reefing by rolling the boom. There appears to be a gear system at the forward end with a lug available for a winch handle and the aft end has a ring around the boom on which the main sheet would have been attached. The topping lift is attached there. I have installed aa jiffy - slab reefing system for the first reef point. I could also see Magic actually having been a yawl at some point. Magic is not a real cutter rigged boat. We call the inner forestay a "baby stay" and have a very heavy storm sail for that stay. We rig the storm sail as a second foresail at times. With the boom at approximately 17 feet in length, Magic does develop weather helm rather quickly. The picture of Magic sailing shows her reefed with a small working jib. The sail arrangement is fairly balanced. I purchased a large (maybe 150) genoa through Atlantic Sail Traders and in light to moderate winds with the mail fully deployed, Maic is again well balanced and sails great. With that much sail up, other folks on the lake really take notice and comment often how beautiful and classic Magic looks. As is the case with most folks, we have lots more pictures of other boats than we do of our own. I have many pictures of our efforts at refurbishing Magic. My sons helped greatly. I'll package up some and post them.  

Yah, baby stay sounds like a better term. Your photo shows the very long boom -- probably like Georgia's used to be. Our boom is round also, with a worm gear drive with a special winch handle for roller reefing. Now, of course, with bails on the underside of the boom for the main sheet and traveler system over the cabin house, we have to use slab reefing. Georgia has no vents -- dorade or otherwise -- on the cabin house. The forward hatch cover at an angle is a nice wind scoop. Our climate and water temperature are cooler than yours so the extra ventilation is not needed. I think the original main would have been too big without more headsail. Weather helm would result. Your story confirms this. Do you have a centerboard? I think I can see the split backstays. We have a large window on the forward face of the cabin house. Eighth inch polycarbonate. While the polycarbonate is well secured with lots of screws, I have some concern about a large wave breaking over the bow coming aft and punching out the polycarbonate. Where the aftmost ports are, large windows have been installed. At least the window materials is 1/4 inch. Waves can be huge and steep in the Great Lakes. Is the traveler for the jib sheets a flat brass bar? Is the bar mounted on the top of the rail? Does the bar have holes in it at regular intervals and do the cars have thumb screws that drop down in these holds to hold the car in position? Is the afterpart of your cabin house raised compared to the level of the cabinhouse where the mast is stepped on the deck? It doesn't look like it in the photo. Well, enough questions. Let me know if I am asking too many? Best regards.  

Hey Scoopy, I am creekmore johns son, I might be able to help out with a few of those questions. 1) The boat is not a centerboard. 2) It does have split backstays. 3) It does not have a large window where you are talking about, we just have the 8 ports 4 on each side of the cabin. 4) The track for the jib sheet is a brass bar sitting on top of the toe-rail. 5) The cabin top is completely flat fore to aft. It would be cool to see some pictures of your creekmore, I will try and upload some more to show the interior and exterior. We have hundreds, haha. Keep the questions coming, it's nice to be in contact with another creekmore owner. Thanks again.  

Creekmore 36s J24Mark: Thank you for the answers to my questions and for the invitation to ask some more. The most curious piece of information is the fact that your Creekmore 36 does not have a centerboard. Mine does. I should think this is a major design change. The centerboard slot would have to have been formed when the keel shell was filled with ballast. The centerboard would change the location of the center of resistance and this with the size and location of the sail plan would affect helm balance. Maybe some others with additional knowledge of the Creekmores can help us. As I mentioned in a previous post, my boat measures nearly 37 feet overall and 10 feet on the beam, a little larger than your Dad's 36. From the photos, the hulls look remarkably similar. The aft part of our cabin house is raised and two small windows have been placed in forward-facing slope. The companionway is not on center, but rather to starboard. This allows the dinette to be port. The dinette can be made up in a double berth, although one person sleeps mostly under the side deck. I will work on the photos tomorrow. Thanks very much. Scoopy I will find some photos to exchange with you. I will have to figure out how to attach them to messages in this thread.  

Thanks Scoopy, I am excited to see what this creekmore looks like. My father and I have been discussing the subtle differences, but as you may know, these were custom made to order from the buyer. Our HIN says our boat is a 67 but we have been saying it is a 1960 because thats what we were told word of mouth. Does your boat have a sketchy history as well? All I know about these boats is the 1"+ hull thickness with NO core material, our boat sometimes gets confused with steel it is a so dense. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks again.  

Creekmore 36s J24mark: How did your Dad get the pictures up on this site? Also, I am trying to share them with the other partners in "Georgia." I have given them a link to our Creekmore exchanges. I am not sure they have been successful. I want to get some photos of "Georgia" to the site. It looks like I need to set up an account on BucketPhoto, load my photos there, and then provide a URL address for readers here to use. It looks, though, like your Dad actually put his photos directly into this thread. Maybe I am not understanding how this works. Advise me as best you can. Scoopy.  

There is a button next to post quick reply called "go advanced." Once you go advanced you can scroll down and it says Manage Attachments, from there a window will pop up. You simply find the picture files on your computer and attach them. If you need any more help just let me know.  

Creekmore 36s Here are some photos of the interior and exterior of "Georgia," a Creekmore 36. The aft part of the main cabin house was raised to accomodate a raised dinette to port in the after part of the main cabin. As part of this customization when the boat was built, the cockpit was made about one foot shorter in order to gain more room in the main cabin. Two large windows on each side replaced the single port holes. The galley is to starboard, opposite the dinette. No mechanical refrigeration (ice). The main cabin has two berths as does the forward stateroom. The head is to port. The holding tank is under the port forward berth. A drop-down fold-out table has been added in the main cabin because the dinette really can't sit four people comfortably (shoulders bump into the side of the cabin house). The table can be dropped, turning the dinette into a double berth. She is steered with a wheel. The boom was shortened by several feet in order to reduce weather helm. She has a centerboard. She now has a Westerbeke/Universal M35B diesel engine. If there was a baby stay, there is no evidence of it now. She carries a roller furling genoa. Let me know if you need additional explanations of the photos. Scoopy.  

J24mark and CreekmoreJohn: Here are some more photos of "Georgia." Scoopy  

J24mark and CreekmoreJohn (in particular; anyone in general): The system seems to have balked at posting my photos. Each of the photos was less than allowed for a .jpg file (97.7kb). I posted five photos with each of two separate messages (the maximum allowed). Yet, I got a message that I had exceeded the limits. The text of the two messages came through; the attached photos did not. I don't know exactly what the problem is and therefore don't know how to fix it. Any guidance? Scoopy  

Each picture can only be 800 x 600 pixels, I had a bit of trouble myself.  

Thanks for the advice about pictures. Now I have to learn how my photo program can reduce the resolution of my photos to no more than 800 by 600. It appears from the advertisement that the Creekmore 36 was produced either as a sloop or a yawl. In other words, there is no cutter-rigged boat shown. Have you heard any stories to suggest that the baby stay on your boat was added by a previous owner so that the boat could carry a storm jib?  

Ever figure out how to post those pics scoops?  

Creekmore 36s As I wrote earlier, I tried to post several photos (as your Dad did) but the resolution of my photos was greater that the SailNet system can handle. I will try to find out if my photo program can reduce the resolution of individual photos. It may work if I submit only one picture at a time. There is something in the instructions about using PhotoBucket (or some name like that), load the pictures into it, and provide people on this thread with the URL to get to the photos. Thanks for your interest. Scoopy  

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