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Formula 41PC vs 40PC

Thread starter whippersnapper
Start date Feb 1, 2011

whippersnapper

Feb 1, 2011

Hi guys, newbie here. I am in the market for a 40' cruiser and very interested in Formula. Although we are based in the US right now, I envision taking the boat back to New Zealand at some point to use as a Coastal Cruiser. With that in mind I have a couple of question I hope you can help me with. 1) How is the sea keeping of the Formula hull design? I have read alot about sport cruisiers not really being very good when it cuts up rough. How is formula compared with say the ubiquitous Regal, Monterey, SeaRay bunch? 2) I have come across a 2004 41PC with Volvo 480's. The larger beam is attractive but the lack of hardtop is not. I know this is an older design. How would the sea keeping of the 41PC compare with the 40PC which seems more modern? Thanks in advance for your comments / perspectives!

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Sea keeping is gonna be one of the best out there...for this class of boat. Remember though, the larger beam the more the potenial roll in rough beam seas. But compared to Regal, SeaRay, etc...Formula is known for their handling in rough waters. I am not sure you will see a HUGE difference in sea keeping in the 41 vs. the 40, but I know there are folks on this forum that have both and will jump in shortly. Personally I like the Volvo 480's

If you have found a 2004 available for sale, just know it was one of the last 41's built. There were only 21 2002's, fewer 2003's and only very few 2004's. All 2003 & 2004 were diesels, but I have seen a lot of problems with the Volvo diesels. Get a survey and have them check wiring and electronics very carefully. As far as seakeeping you can't beat the Formula deep-V's. I haven't any experience with the 40PC but it may be a bit faster than the 41PC, although if speed is a big part of what you want you need to dial back to the 37PC. Now that is a fast express cruiser. Good luck in your search, the 41PC is a great boat.

Feb 2, 2011

Hi whippersnapper, I have a 41PC and I think it's a good hull design. Much better in sloppy conditions than many other production cruisers including similarly sized Sea Rays. Partly due I think to a finer entry, less compromise made to get interior volume forward. It's basically a stretched version of the earlier 36PC, I had one of those too. The boat definitely likes to be up on plane and if the conditions are so bad you need to come off plane you are going to roll around a whole lot and get wet. Having said that, if the conditions are that bad, you should stay at the dock! I mention it because I think the conditions and wind in NZ are a little sportier than the conditions we generally get here in the north east? The boat eats a 3 to 4 foot chop at 20 plus knots no problem. I'm going to beg to differ with George on the Volvo TAMD 7 series. The boat at 19,000 Lbs is if anything over powered with these engines which is a good thing! She runs at 24 to 25 knots at 2200 RPM which is 400 RPM off the top. There was a recall on the wiring harness to correct a tendency to jump into gear without warning which obviously was a VERY serious issue. (the gear selection is electric) I like the fact that these are old school low revving diesels and generally pretty simple despite the first generation electronic controls. Currently you can pick up a great boat for 120K or so which is just crazy bang for the buck. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the input guys, very much appreciated. As we refine things down it looks like we will go for a 40PC primarily to get the hardtop. In the price range we can afford we are looking 2004-2006 which seems to mean Yanmar power although there is one '06 with Cummins which I am led to believe are pretty good common rail units? We might be able to stretch to an '07 at a pinch and then get into Volvo IPS. Is this really worth doing? Our starting point had always been that shafts were the way to go even if you get better economy and speed from pods (but more complexity and servicing needs). Thanks again in advance for all the advice!

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if it were my choice, i would not even consider anything but ips.

GSENT said: if it were my choice, i would not even consider anything but ips. Click to expand...

Formula Tenn

i like the idea of ips as well but i don't know anything about maintenance/upkeep on them. what exactly is required and how often? that is why we went with shaft drives, i wanted to eliminate the seemingly never ending outdrive maintenance.

IPS IS BY FAR, THE BEST SYSTEM OUT THERE WHEN COMPARED TO STRAIT OR VEEDRIVES. MAINTENANCE IS THE SAME AS MOST OTHER SYSTEMS, CHANGE OIL, MAINTAIN PROPS, ETC. ECONOMY AND PERFORMANCE ARE SUPERIOR. JOYSTICK CONTROL FOR DOCKING IS THE MAIN REASON I WOULD GO FOR IT. GO TO VOLVO PENTA SITE, AND LEARN ALL ABOUT THE IPS.

Easy Living

If they don't have IPS are the 40 PC V-Drives and the 41 straight inboards? And is there any big difference between the two on performance. Thanks

The 41 is straight drive. Personally I am not a fan of IPS, don't tear my head off, I know Im in the minority. For me, too much complication and computer power drive by wire stuff. Also don't like the forward facing props guaranteed to scoop up any stray lobster pots or lines. If something breaks with that system you are not going to be able to fix it yourself, that's for sure... Also relatively untested in the pleasure craft arena. Even given the claimed 30 percent efficiency I am not sold yet....

I own an 06 40pc with Yanmars. I am with you the hard top it's a great option. Anyway to get ride of canvas is for me. When I bought my boat IPS was brand new to Formula and a little to new for me. Since then I have driven a 45 pc with IPS and a Grand Banks 41 with Cummings Zuess. Either is great and unbeatable around the docks. Performance is very good. Although fuel consumption with Yanmars is better than IPS. You can check Boat Test .com for that. 40 with Yanmars is pretty easy to handle around the docks. I do have a bow thruster but in strong wind and current it's not to helpful. My biggest problem with IPS as said before is forward facing unprotected props. If I had to do it again it would probably be v drives unless Formula switched to Zuess. I do prefer Cummins over Volvo's but that's my personal opinion. I hope some of this helps. No matter which Formula you get you won't be disappointed even in rough water.

Was at the show today and spoke to 2 formula reps that have either owned 1 or 2 41PC's or been on formula boats for many years. They both agreed the 41 PC with the Volvo inboards is a "WAVE CRUSHER".. By far the best boat for handling in that size with that power package. Also Formula is not building anymore inboard boats. IPS or I/O from now on.

Feb 3, 2011

that sounds good to me 'cause by the time i can afford one of those, every little quirk will be known about the ips. i don't wanna go back to outdrives so when the time comes..............HAHAHA.......i mean IF the time comes i'll worry about it then.

Great stuff guys. Given that the 40PC's in my price range will mostly have Yanmar 440's, how are these engines? I am assuming they aren't common rail and don't have electronic controls? I have an expectation that the Cummins QSB 425 option might be worth hanging out for?

formula40pc

Don't know much about the 41PC other then more room and larger fridge. I have a 40PC 2004 with hardtop and 440 Yanmars. I love the boat and everyone that goes out cannot believe how much better the ride is then the brands you asked about. There is no comparison . The fuel economy is great as was my previous boat a Formula 400SS with 502 Bravo 3X drives. ( AS LONG AS YOU WERE NOT HEAVY ON THE THROTTLES). As far as IPS I here they are great for handling as long as where you boat there is enough water. Im not a fan yet of forward facing props

Feb 5, 2011

formula40, whats your cruise speed and gallons per hour? also WOT and GPH

Feb 6, 2011

Castines, When I picked up my boat from Old Saybrook Ct. The trip to Red Bank I averaged 6 gph Per engine. I was traveling slow from Old Saybrook to City Island due to fog where I could only see my bow at times. ( 5 to 10 mph I think). Then from city Island to Highlands I was running 28 t0 30 MPH. That was my first ride in the 40PC and I was truly a happy owner. Will check my paper work to get a better average during normal use. I cruise around 24-28 mph and wot around 35mph

Feb 7, 2011

I had a 40 pc with tyanmars engine package and loved it. My boat wa an 04 and it ran like a top. got up on plane quick and easy, ran smooth, no smoke, the engines always started in pretty much a half of revolution. no multiple turns to start. They are not common rail but that is fine. One thing I would definetely consider on these engines is change the air filter and engine oil breather. I recently put Walker Airsep's on my 48 and they are fantastic. The yanmar air filter and oil breather are cheesey at best and allow engine breathing into the engine room which makes its way to the cabin. I ran my boat at 3000 rpm and around 30 mph and burned 26 gph. super efficient for that baot weight and speed. Sometimes I wonder if going to the 48 yacht was the right move but once you go bigger its very hard to go smaller again. Good luck!!

Joe wojo. I was thinking of changing the cheap air filter myself. Where did you get yours and what is pricing. That little thin piece of foam doesnt do much and gets real dirty with the oil from the breather

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Love my Sea Ray but..any reason to not get a Formula?

Thread starter Nick70
Start date Oct 12, 2017

Oct 12, 2017

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I've been talked off the ledge about re powering my 260 with a 496. So, looking at bigger Sea Rays I noticed that almost none have a cockpit layout like my 06 260. We love that portside lounger. I started to look at similar Formulas..they almost all have it! In addition, they seem like great boats. I'm focusing on the 31PC with dual merc HO 496/bravo III am I missing something or are formulas just really good boats?

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The 320 has almost the same layout. One reason I didn't want a 320, we didn't like the lounger.

Formulas are fantastic boats. Extremely well built and generally very fast. If you're OK with I/O's they're really good boats. I like the SR style better usually, and the older formulas used some wacky colors so they don't age as well. Whats your minimum size for your upgrade? Our 290 has the port side lounger, but they stopped this model 290 in 2001 so you'd have to go a bit older than your current boat.

I've never owned one, but have seen plenty around the docks. Guy across from me had a 40PC and it was a nice boat, he was a Formula guy and had owned several. My impression is they are good boats, built very well - many would say better than SeaRay. More of a performance boat than SeaRay (that is their heritage) and it shows even in their cruisers. From a styling perspective they seem more utilitarian than SeaRay - especially the older models. I don't like trying to compare brands - there are a number of brands that I would consider top production boats, Formula is definitely on that list for me. These days my interests are more in the mid 20's day boats, so boats like SeaRay Sundecks and Cobalt R5's interest me. If I were shopping for a 30-35' cruiser, I think a Formula would definitely be one to consider.

Gofirstclass

When Formula came out with the pod drives on the 40'er I had a chance to drive one at the Miami boat show. Faster than he!! and handled like a sports car. I think part of the speed comes from the hull that is narrower than SR's hulls in the same size. Me not being a boat racer, I'd much rather have a wider beam on a slower boat than the fast boat with a narrow beam.

The Formulas are beautiful well made boats. I wouldn’t hesitate to get one. The one thing I noticed that was on the minus side by a very minor bit is they tend to have a narrower beam than a comparably sized Sea Ray. It cuts down interior space by a negligible amount. On the plus side, they are great boats that seem to perform a bit better than comparably sized boat. If I were buying a brand new boat I think that Formula might win out. Not a huge fan of the newer Sea Ray exterior styling. More importantly, in talking with the Formula guys at boat shows it seems that you can really personalize them these days with interior and hull color choices.

We went to the Cleveland boat show this past winter and they had a brand new 31PC and i loved that boat. just a tad out of my price range...lol. but loved it. it actually seemed bigger in the cabin than the SR but i wasn't measuring. i agree there older boats had horrid colors but the new one was nice. i heard the quality is top notch but have no experience with them

Oct 13, 2017

Formula boats are great. A buddy of mine has the 31PC boat mentioned above and I love it. Much higher quality than a Sea Ray. His was a bit pricey but you get what you pay for. If you find one that meets your needs and is in your price range I wouldn't hesitate.

Great Lakes

We had a 2006 320 with 6.2's. We absolutely loved that boat except our kids didn't stop growing.. We chose the 320 over the 340 because of the port side lounger. You will love it if you decide to get one Btw: I believe formulas are a step up from SeaRay's but not enough beam for a family

I was looking at formulas also. The 34PC in the same year 2004 as I have now. The thing that broke me was the outdrives in Saltwater. If your in Fresh that's a different story. I was also on the fence with the cruising style. The Formula tended to dance around a bit at cruise. You have to play with the trim tabs a bit I found to keep it straight. My Searay is rock solid no matter where people move under way. Docking with the V-drives are easier. The formula also gets better gas mileage and is Faster. Not by much since I re-propped though. Drive them both if you can.

Little Ducky

Oct 14, 2017

Nice boat, but they don't hold there value much hear in the NW. SeaRay holds a much better value. I had a friend back in 06 buy a new 27pc. $160k plus tax and no Genny. With twin VP 5.7s. He bragged about his zero interest first 3 years and 3% there after. 10 years later he could hardly give the boat away as he still owed a large balance. If you buy new be careful of zero interest programs. They just inflate the sell price to make up for the zero interest. That gap sticks with the principal for along long time. Hence your upside down from day one.

Oct 16, 2017

Before owning my 44 DA, I had a 2005 Formula 370 SS, from 2007 to 2015. I loved it. They are built well, their gel coat work is better than my Sea Ray (2007) by far. I'm not being negative about my Sea Ray, we love it. I just absolutely loved my Formula too and would buy another without question. I've driven both the SS and PC boats Formula makes. While the SS is more of the fast style cruiser, the PC handles very well. Almost bought a 37 PC before getting our 44 DA. Went with the Sea Ray because the size difference was too great to pass up. The Formula 31 PC is an excellent boat, you'll love it!

RollerCoastr

LG111 said: I had a friend back in 06 buy a new 27pc. ...10 years later he could hardly give the boat away Click to expand...

Gelcoat. The finish is hands-down better.
Attention to detail in the engine room. Wiring & hoses are routed beautifully, dual clamps on most fittings, very organized location of various systems, etc.
Hull performance. I'm not just talking about speed. I have the 350CBR, and it slices through annoying 2'-3' chop better at 33-36 mph than it does at 25-28 mph. On every SR I've ever piloted (between 25'-50'), when rough water approaches, slowing down has always resulted in a more comfortable ride. I crossed Lake Michigan with a 90s-vintage 500DA in solid 2' chop; they asked to back down from a 30mph cruise to a 26mph cruise; since we were traveling together, I did the same, but ended up having a bumpier ride. I felt that was a nice testament to the Formula hull design; it's very, very capable in bumpy seas, even when the dry weight is probably 10,000lbs less than the 500DA.
Fasteners. For whatever reason, my Formula has had more nuts, bolts, hinges, latches, and snaps come undone or break off than my Sea Rays. It might be petty, but it is really annoying to have to secure doors, brackets, etc. every couple of weeks. Most of these come loose due to vibration; one would think the engineers know this is a reality on a boat and use a design that's more durable. This really cheapens the brand, and this is where I have a hard time buying into the Formula fanboy syndrome of it being "all quality." (On the upside, my skills with the snap tool have exponentially improved this summer.)
Simplicity of less deadrise. To get the Formula riding nicely, it requires a bit of playing with the tabs combined with trim. And then of course there's Active Trim (which is really a joke and I usually just turn it off). I guess that's the downside of the deeper vee (which gives the better aforementioned ride); I feel like with the SRs you can just put the throttles down and it's pretty mindless to keep the boat at a comfortable riding attitude.
Material Durability. Formula uses lots of materials that look nice when they're brand new. I'm talking about the Corian on the cockpit wet bar, or even the gray fiberglass that surrounds cupholders. The truth is, people put down beer cans and uncork wine bottles and drop forks onto these surfaces, and they scratch too easily. I've taken my buffer and some light polish to the Corian three times this season, and I always put down a protective mat. (My SR had a nice stone surface on the bar, and it was tough as nails.)

FastMarkA said: I went from a Sea Ray to a new Formula this past year. Both are good boats, and like anything in life, both have their strengths and weaknesses. Where I find Formula has the edge over Sea Ray: Gelcoat. The finish is hands-down better. Attention to detail in the engine room. Wiring & hoses are routed beautifully, dual clamps on most fittings, very organized location of various systems, etc. Hull performance. I'm not just talking about speed. I have the 350CBR, and it slices through annoying 2'-3' chop better at 33-36 mph than it does at 25-28 mph. On every SR I've ever piloted (between 25'-50'), when rough water approaches, slowing down has always resulted in a more comfortable ride. I crossed Lake Michigan with a 90s-vintage 500DA in solid 2' chop; they asked to back down from a 30mph cruise to a 26mph cruise; since we were traveling together, I did the same, but ended up having a bumpier ride. I felt that was a nice testament to the Formula hull design; it's very, very capable in bumpy seas, even when the dry weight is probably 10,000lbs less than the 500DA. Things I miss about my SR: Fasteners. For whatever reason, my Formula has had more nuts, bolts, hinges, latches, and snaps come undone or break off than my Sea Rays. It might be petty, but it is really annoying to have to secure doors, brackets, etc. every couple of weeks. Most of these come loose due to vibration; one would think the engineers know this is a reality on a boat and use a design that's more durable. This really cheapens the brand, and this is where I have a hard time buying into the Formula fanboy syndrome of it being "all quality." (On the upside, my skills with the snap tool have exponentially improved this summer.) Simplicity of less deadrise. To get the Formula riding nicely, it requires a bit of playing with the tabs combined with trim. And then of course there's Active Trim (which is really a joke and I usually just turn it off). I guess that's the downside of the deeper vee (which gives the better aforementioned ride); I feel like with the SRs you can just put the throttles down and it's pretty mindless to keep the boat at a comfortable riding attitude. Material Durability. Formula uses lots of materials that look nice when they're brand new. I'm talking about the Corian on the cockpit wet bar, or even the gray fiberglass that surrounds cupholders. The truth is, people put down beer cans and uncork wine bottles and drop forks onto these surfaces, and they scratch too easily. I've taken my buffer and some light polish to the Corian three times this season, and I always put down a protective mat. (My SR had a nice stone surface on the bar, and it was tough as nails.) At the end of the day, you cannot go wrong with either boat. This is really an Audi vs. BMW comparison, not an Audi vs. Great Wall Motors. I do give a shot out to Formula's customer service (on the street known as TAG, "Thunderbird Assistance Group" (I think)). They are super responsive to basically any request. Click to expand...

Strecker25 said: Great comparison. I'd like to see a cross section of similar vintage hulls to compare the actual construction. Do Formula and SR use the same hull manufacturing techniques? Formula guys always talk about "how thick the hull is" when in reality I wonder whether its any different than other premium manufacturers. Click to expand...

RollerCoastr said: the way Formula wires tabs Click to expand...

Oct 23, 2017

Sounds like you have it figured out. I was in the same boat as you..31 or 34 from a 26. I only have one son. I bet after a season you wish you had a 34...lol.. More room to party, More storage, bigger bed, Bigger head, Smoother ride, All and all a more comfortable boat. It really doesn't use that much more fuel. Didn't you say we didn't like the lounger.? Good luck with your choice.

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Sea Ray Vs. Formula

Thread starter baconbiscut
Start date Jun 22, 2008

baconbiscut

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Jun 22, 2008

I just wanted to bring up the subject. We have a 1986 Formula F-25PC cruiser. I was looking at Sea-Rays from the same era as our Formula and they look very similar I also noticed that the hulls were similar. I was also wondering if Formula and Sea Ray had any ties in the 80's. If you had the choice in purchasing a cruiser which would you pick Formula or Sea Ray.

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Jun 23, 2008

Re: Sea Ray Vs. Formula Don Aronow & Vic Porter are the ones responsible for Formula Boats,Whereas in 1986 Sea Ray became part of the Brunswick Corporation which is the largest manufacturer of boats around,owning most boat company's such as - Cabo-boston whaler-lowe-lund-sea pro-maxum-sea ray ect..... Sooo,to answer the original question.....I'd rather have a Formula...Family owned company...smaller line of boats...only one factory producing = greater quality control,not to mention employee pride,Dont get me wrong,i am a huge searay fan, but...Formula is a better boat.

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Re: Sea Ray Vs. Formula totally agree, brunswick owns mercury,mercruiser, and about 30 brands of boats.

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Formula Crossover Bowrider (CBR) model boats, at 33- and 35-feet LOA are great for delivering near maximum seating space for a given length topside, with the addition of a comfortable enclosed cabin belowdecks. Like Formula Bowrider boats, Formula Crossover Bowriders also make it easy to go from bow to stern thanks to a broad side walkway. Compared to a pure cabin boat, anchoring or docking is much easier , since there is no cabin to climb over. Riding on Formula’s acclaimed hull designs , Formula Crossover Bowrider boats deliver thrills and performance whether powered by outboards or sterndrives. Some key points are listed below:

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Fomula’s Super Sport Crossover series of boats deliver the exceptional performance of the FAS3Tech stepped hull in a versatile line of boats from 38- to 50- feet LOA . Topside you can easily seat a crowd thanks to the big bow lounge and aft cockpit. And, you can easily go from bow to stern thanks to the convenient side walkthrough. Compared to a full on cabin boat, this makes handling the boat while docking much easier .

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Luxury combined with versatility and performance
38- , 40-,43- and 50-foot models
Twin, triple, and quad-engine models are available
Available outboard and sterndrive models
Excellent ride for open water excursions
Formula FAS3Tech stepped hull enhances speed and efficiency
A large swim platform, wraparound aft and bow lounges, and a cabin for daytime convenience make this boat great for longer cruising or entertaining

Formula’s 43-foot All Sport Crossover is one unique boat. It offers plenty of seating topside thanks to its expansive bow lounge. The layout makes for easy movement from bow to stern, which is a real advantage while docking . Plus, there’s a nice cabin that will sleep a small family for an overnight…or a week. The head is large and includes a shower.

What’s this All Sport business? The extra-large swim platform becomes a multi-function area for those that like to fish, dive, or entertain . Enjoy rod holders, livewells, and refrigerated fish boxes to chill your catch (or your beverages) . Check out the bullet points below for a sampling of how you might equip your Formula All Sport Crossover.

43-foot boat with a unique mission and outboard power
Versatility to cruise, dayboat, fish, dive and more
Chef-inspired galley
Huge swim/activity platform
Livewells, tackle stowage, prep center, rod holders, and more fishing gear
Triple-Command helm seating with lumbar support
Bow lounge/easy forward cockpit access
Twin big screen helm displays
Excellent ride and spirited handling
Available with quad Mercury Verado or Mercury Racing outboards

Formula first built “cc” boats in the 1980’s and they offer two center console models – the 387 Center Console Fish and the 387 Center Console Sport. If you are looking for an all-out fishing vessel, the 387 Center Console Fish is your boat. If you are looking for more versatility, the 387 Center Console Sport may be a better option. Below are options both boats share:

Stepped hull for ride, performance, speed and efficiency
Choose twin Mercury Verado 600s, Triple Mercury Verado V8s or V10s , or Triple Mercury Racing 450Rs
Formula Flex program for customizing colors, fabrics, electronics and more
Gemlux outriggers
Twin or Triple big screen helm displays available
Flip down transom bench
Temperature-controlled fishboxes
Cabin boasts a 6’4’ headroom
8,000 btu air-conditioner

Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers deliver the finest level of cruising luxuries for their size. These boats combine the highest standards of fit, finish and construction a boat buyer might find. Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers ride a deep-V hull, providing boat owners with a higher level of ride and handling than is typical for this type of boat. Powered by sterndrives or outboards, and available in 310 and 350 model designations, Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers offer buyers of this boat type the best of everything for a top-of-the-market price. A list of features is below.

Weekend cruising amenities riding race-bred deep-V hull shapes
Wetbar for entertaining and food and drink service
Wraparound lounges
Double-wide helm seating
High-gloss galley with sink, refrigerator and Corian countertop
Choose radar arch, stainless sport top, sport top with retractable shade or hardtop w/sunroof
Large standard swim platform
Extended swim platform available (two versions)
Available cockpit refrigerator
Available cockpit grill
31- and 35-foot models
Outboard and sterndrive models available

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Formula Boats offers many unique features, and more importantly, a unique blend of features and heritage, for boat buyers to consider. Check out the FAQ!

Each and every Formula hull is and has been, designed by the noted designer, John Adams. Each hull is rooted in the tradition of blue water racing that Formula forged decades ago. Specific unique features–just a few of many–include the FAS3Tech hull form ; the way in which Formula aligns the screw heads on accessory installations; painted graphics , rather than stickers, look better and last longer; its variety of arches and swim platforms; and its use of Ilmor racing engines and equipment upon customer request.

Formula boats range from about $175,000 for a 240 Bowrider to $3.5 million or more for a 500 SSC . (*2023 prices)

Formula builds a range of boat types and sizes. The two primary connecting factors in this diverse fleet are the race-bred handling and ride and the top-quality craftsmanship.

According to our sources at Formula, the 350 Crossover Bowrider is the most popular model that they build.

Yes. Better than most boats due to their high-quality and limited production.

A well-cared-for Formula boat can last decades and become a family heirloom. The engines will have been replaced on such boats.

Formula boats are not lightweight, nor are they especially heavy. Their weight, like their other characteristics, is designed to work with a given model’s mission and performance expectations.

Formula boats are generally built to a higher standard and in lower numbers than other craft of similar size and intent. Comparison shoppers should look at Chris-Craft and Cobalt when shopping for many Formula models. Formula’s center console models compare well with those made by Boston Whaler, Tiara, Pursuit and Intrepid.

Features such as Imron hull graphics , chrome-plated stainless metals and overall excellence in design , build and assembly make Formula boats easier to maintain than most boats.

Formula Boats are manufactured in Decatur, IN.

Yes. The 37-foot center console models are excellent for inshore and offshore fishing.

Yes, while you can ski, tube and enjoy other watersports behind any Formula model , the 24 to 35 foot models make these activities easier.

Formula’s CBR series, the Crossover Bowriders , can be used for overnight or weekend cruising, depending upon your crew and the specific model.

Formula Sun Sports can be used for extended cruising, perhaps spending a week or more aboard.

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Formula presents the 2024 line of best designed, best built pleasure boats on the water today.

CELEBRATING 68 YEARS of ongoing advancement in marine manufacturing, Formula’s tradition of excellence continues to surpass expectations with the ultimate goal of providing consistently gratifying experiences on the water with family and friends. SINCE 1976, Formula has been 100% owned and managed by the Porter family, focused on continual product improvement throughout the line, from the smallest Bowrider to the superlative 500 SSC. Although he passed in 2021, Vic Porter leaves a lasting legacy of visionary design, superior execution, and most importantly, a satisfied and pleased customer. A dedicated team of employees do their best every day, combining premium materials with detailed fit and finish to achieve the extraordinary standard of quality required in a Formula.

The Porters realize the importance of responsive, customer-oriented service for owners, addressing issues through area dealerships, authorized service centers and the technical assistance team located at the manufacturing facility.

THE PORTERS invite you to join the ever-growing family of boaters who experience a reassuring difference with Formula. That difference is the result of fine-tuned design, authentic craftsmanship and a company-wide insistence on excellence. It means you’ll enjoy more priceless moments with family and friends each time you boat. The Porter family wouldn’t settle for less, and neither should you.

John Adams, Exclusive Designer

Responsible for each Formula’s sleek lines and outstanding performance
Achieved through his eminent blend of form and function
Each unique design first becomes a 3D image, then a full scale reproduction and finally the master mold

Formula Quality

575,000 square foot manufacturing facility built specifically for powerboat production
Based in Decatur, Indiana, the Porters’ home town
Consistent procedures carried out with solid work-ethic dedication
Utilizing the latest technology to its greatest advantage
Corporate, sales and production all under one roof for ongoing collaboration in creating each boat

FormulaFlex™ Offers Individual Personalization

Graphic color choices are interchangeable to communicate your personal style
Choose upholstery base, accent and piping colors to your individual preference
Wide choice of cabin fabrics, Corian surfaces and cabinetry make it uniquely yours
Positioning of electronics can be further personalized
FormulaFlex MyWay™ upgrades offer virtually unlimited graphic color selection, plus more cockpit, cabin and electronic choices

The Formula Difference – Best From Start To Finish

Formula is Famous for Performance Excellence

Unique performance heritage with over 65 years of offshore boating experience
Proven deep-V Formula hull configuration
Exciting pace with responsive handling
Solid, enjoyably smooth ride
Super Sport/FAS 3 Tech® multi-plane hull technology for fast-paced, solid performance, increased range and soft re-entry
Formula achieves high performance with confident control and solid, exhilarating ride

Lamination Procedures Assure Durable Beauty

Computer programmed cutting produces custom-ply, bi-axial and tri-axial fiberglass and Coremat® shapes
Hand-laid composites and resin carefully layered with optimal cure time in thoroughly maintained molds
High shear strength Corecell™ in hullsides 29 feet and up
Premium AME® 5001 resin: first two CBR/BR/SS hull layers, all SSC/ASC hull layers – no barrier coat needed as with lower grade resins
Every square inch at its strongest – no problem areas to patch with Kevlar strips

Superior Structural Reinforcement Assures Legendary Performance

Resin-encapsulated, suspended cross-framed stringer and bulkhead system securely bonded to CBR/BR/SS hulls with biaxial laminates for optimal force distribution
Unique, custom-engineered Super Sport/FAS 3 Tech® matrix – a unitized fiberglass grid with premium AME® 5001 resin bonded to all SSC hulls with Plexus® adhesive
Stringers and matrix foam-filled for vibration dampening and solid ride
Additional structural reinforcement – custom fiberglass shapes, or pultrusions, in hull bottom and along gunwales
Deck and hull inseparable – chemical Plexus bond plus stainless steel bolts through heavy backing plates

Vibrant, Long Lasting Finish Far Surpasses All Others

Premium Ineos Maxguard™ LE gelcoat – the base on all Formulas
Unique Axalta™ Cromax XP basecoat/Imron® Elite clearcoat graphic process never chalks, fades or needs to be buffed back like the colored gelcoat others commonly use
Multi-stage process creates brilliant metallic designs – impossible with gelcoat or Imron paint alone
Stunning graphics with no accent tape striping applied
Wide selection of color and design options – unlimited personalized color expression with FormulaFlex MyWay™ upgrade

Formula Cockpits Lead in Versatility and Crowd Pleasing Comfort

Multi-purpose design innovations bring more fun on the water
The ever-important flush cockpit for safety and ease
Cockpit seating cleverly transforms for all-out performance runs or relaxing conversations in the round
Aft facing lounge easily converts to expansive sunpad – great • for in-water activity at anchor

Only the Best Components Make it Into a Formula

Formula tests extensively for quality and endurance
If a proposed item fails, it won’t be in your Formula
All railing is low-carbon 316L stainless steel – highest marine-grade available
316L stainless custom cleats installed with stainless lock nuts and backing plates
Virtually all hardware is 316 stainless, far superior to merely electropolished, lower-grade stainless
Hardware thru-bolted with chrome-plated stainless fasteners
Inserting flexible O-rings ensures a watertight seal

Keeping You on the Water

Formula electrical systems.

Connections individually hand-crimped and heat-sealed with double-wall shrink tubing using corrosion-resistant tinned wire
Never using less reliable, preinsulated connector common in the industry
For longer runs, color-coded wiring neatly routed through flexible, protective conduit
Easily reset E-T-A® circuit breakers shield systems from excess current damage
Heavy-duty marine-grade batteries installed for added reliability
All boats equipped with dedicated starting batteries

Highest Quality Construction

Superior seating.

Waterproof marine materials – no wood throughout cockpit
Rotocast, Starboard® and StarLite® XL seat cores guarantee longevity
Preshaped, contoured anti-microbial foam components
Remarkable DriFast® foam does not retain water
Computer-patterned and CNC cut shapes assembled into highly detailed forms by skilled sewers
Rugged, outdoor-grade vinyl upholstery – higher density, tear-resistant with special backing
36-ounce White, Moondust and Morning Sand base vinyls treated with PreFixx to resist staining
Accent vinyls color-permeated throughout
High-grade Tenara® thread does not deteriorate from UV, cleaning agents or saltwater

Boating Satisfaction Makes All The Difference

Everything You Need

Days of fun.

The integrated wetbar, a Formula hallmark, features genuine Corian® counter, large sink, trash container and cooler or refrigerator for easy entertaining – available on 270 and 290, standard on 310 and larger
Highest number of polished stainless steel drink holders within easy reach
Head door solidly secure with only one latch
Smoothly finished fiberglass storage compartments stay open with gas spring or special hinge design
Generous storage for all your gear, including dedicated storage for tables, filler cushions and fenders

Formula’s Helm Station

Double-and triple-wide seating with options to sit, stand or rest on the upright seat
Sturdy composite dash features digital shifters/throttles and intuitive waterproof switches within easy reach
Illuminated gauges, digital instrumentation and navigational electronics logically arrayed on sleek, liquid black dash panels
Raymarine Axiom XL chartplotters available on all SSC/ASC models
Positioning of electronics can be further customized with FormulaFlex™
Impressive leather-wrapped, polished stainless steering wheel

A Sumptuous Retreat

The formula cabin.

Luxurious Ultraleather™ lounges, beautifully finished cabinetry, upscale Corian® surfaces and solid wood tables for a pleasing residential environment
Décor selections feature fabrics that enhance each theme – even further personalization with FormulaFlex™
350 and up offer choice of custom quilted bedspread with pillow shams, linens and embroidered towel sets
Woodgrain-finish flooring and wood entry steps complement your selected cabin décor
Wall and ceiling panels fit precisely – no tell-tale bead welt or screw cap covers to mask shortcut assembly

Not an Imitator

Genuine corian countertops.

Advanced blend of natural materials and pure acrylic polymer
Uniquely hand-crafted by Formula
Remarkably durable, seamless surface
Nonporous and easy to clean – stains do not penetrate

A Formula Standout Feature

Flawless cabinetry.

Solid, precision construction at its core
CAD/CAM routers cut, drill and shape materials for exacting assembly and fit
Cabinetry constructed with thru-bolted aluminum extrusions and stainless steel L-brackets
Cabinetry units are securely bolted to the hull
Cabinet doors remain closed under way with perfect joinery and top quality locking latches
Drawers are all premium dovetailed hardwood maple construction

Luxurious Ultraleather Lounges

Perfect setting for relaxation and entertainment
Richly textured appearance and supple feel of fine leather
Surprisingly tough and durable – spills wipe up easily

Formula Engine Rooms Offer Reassuring Safeguards

Electric engine access, meticulous hose routing, and wiring secured in flexible conduit
Standard fume detector and automatic fire extinguishing system
All sterndrive engines thru-bolted using heavy-duty cast aluminum mounts and backing plates – far superior to lag screwing directly to stringers as in many other boats
Available sterndrive external freshwater flush or automatic outboard flushing system
Sterndrive and outboard engines securely mounted through sturdy composite transom

Each Formula Must Pass Extensive Testing

All boat instruments and systems fully engaged and evaluated in a test tank
Engines are powered up and run through diagnostics while in gear
Continuous water spray confirms seals around deck hatches, hardware and along windshield New hull designs, engine packages, materials and equipment evaluated through testing on open water
Formula’s quality program assigns a team of inspectors to examine each finished boat as if they were the buyer – reinforces the importance of consistent, premium quality throughout the entire facility
New owners enjoy The Formula Difference from day one

Formula Guard Coverage on Every New Model

Protects each Formula owner’s investment
10-year structural warranty
5-year limited protection plans on all components, accessories, engines and outdrives
Free Monthly Reliability Inspections for first year of ownership
24/7/365 factory hotline for emergency assistance
5-year warranty includes labor and replacement materials plus allowances for travel, haul out and towing
All warranties, subscriptions and memberships fully transferable to subsequent owners
High value remains strong to trade up

Formula’s Technical Assistance Group Offers Vital Support

Quick, accurate advice to dealers helps resolve service issues
Timely updates to dealers on product changes and service programs

Formula Service Keeps Owners on the Water Through a Qualified Network

Formula dealers offer expert full service along with new and pre-owned sales
130+ service-only dealers, Authorized Service Centers, provide multiple quality alternatives for most areas
Find all locations on the Formula website

Formula Consistently Earns the Coveted Marine Industry CSI Award

Evaluation program impartially administered by the marine industry, not from company questionnaires
Earned awards in Fiberglass Outboard Boats, Sterndrive Bowrider Boats and Sterndrive Cuddy & Express Boats
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Mark Woglom Senior Member

I've been on the forum for a few years, and have owned Azimut and Lazzara yachts. Recently, we sold the Lazzara in favor of a home in FL. Long story, but 68' of boat was a lot to manage for a couple in their 50's without a captain to head up the maintenance. (more importantly, the wife wanted the cats to come south for the winter!) Fast forward. We bought a 26' Pursuit dual console, that we keep in front of our house. Great boat for tooling around the bay, but we miss cruising. We'd like to buy an "easy to maintain" express cruiser, that we can use for shorter weekend type trips, with one other couple. Something between 40' and 50', preferably. I own a 2005 Formula 370SS, that we use on a lake up north. I bought the boat new, and the thing has been bulletproof. Almost nothing goes wrong, and the boat performs great. Now, I'm considering a Formula 45 Yacht, or anything else with comparable accommodations. I'm no fan of the 45 Yacht aesthetics, but it has a lot to offer, and based upon all my other Formula experience, I'm confident that the boat is very well built. These are some of our criteria: 1. Hardtop, with a windshield that meets the hardtop. I don't care to deal with canvas between the two. 2. We'd like it to be easy to use as a day boat, so it needs to be easy to "cover up". We don't want to spend 30 mins covering up the exterior seating. 3. It needs to have two distinct staterooms (with doors), with stand up headroom in at least a portion of each stateroom. 4. I don't want strange/foreign systems .... if it breaks, I want parts that are readily available. 5. Ride is critical. I want a boat that will ride well in 2-4 footers, without having to put the boat back together, and without having to see the dentist. 6. 2010, or newer, but I could bend for the right boat. I've looked at Sea Ray Sundancer, and the aesthetic is more to my liking. However, most all of the Sundancers don't have a dedicated 2nd stateroom, and they don't seem to have the same build quality, such as with upholstery. There were a couple of others that we have looked at, but none seemed to have all of the right combination that meets our needs. My questions: 1. Anybody have experience with a Formula 45 Yacht? 2. Any other suggestions?

Capt J Senior Member

I have maintained a 48' Formula 2006 for a long time now. I'm not a fan of how it performs, it rides way bow high, and we put blocks in the trim tabs to try to get the bow down. A friend of mine took care of a 45' yacht, IPS boat and liked it. I think the Searay is a good boat and wouldn't discount it either, especially if you like it. What about a Fountain 48' Express Cruiser, fast,ride and has the functionality you're looking for. Another would be a 44' Cabo without a tower, speed and a great ride.

Capt J said: ↑ I have maintained a 48' Formula 2006 for a long time now. I'm not a fan of how it performs, it rides way bow high, and we put blocks in the trim tabs to try to get the bow down. A friend of mine took care of a 45' yacht, IPS boat and liked it. Click to expand...

Maxwell Senior Member

We had looked a lot at the Formula 40 as well as 45 prior to purchasing our first Tiara. The 45 had a nice layout and performed fine, however the narrow beam, gunwhales and slant down at the bow (near foot controls for windlass) turned us away... The gunwhales were my biggest issue. Although you can walk through the windshield, they were just too narrow for my wife to really be comfortable handling fenders and lines etc... What budget are you trying to stay within?

olderboater Senior Member

When you added IPS as a requirement that narrowed it a bit. I would try to get a sea trial somewhere in the Formula to determine if it passes what you need there. If so, you've had a good experience with them so why not just continue. It has a nice layout. The second cabin headroom is lacking at 5'8". I just have no idea how it rides in rough seas. I do have one other significant reservation on the Formula. It's fuel capacity is only 350 gallons. That gives you a range of only 250 nm at ideal cruise and 225 nm at most other speeds with as low as 183 nm at 11 knots. I guess my question there is do you see Bahamas trips in it's future? The 45 actually started around 2006 with V-Drives. It had better speed but I'm sure poorer economy. Among others you might consider. I know several very happy Sabre owners. You indicated you were only looking at IPS? If so that quickly eliminates Sea Ray. It also would eliminate the Viking SC's. The Tiara 50 Coupe would fit your requirements. I don't have enough knowledge of it to have an opinion. Hunt has a couple of boats in that range. The 52 would seem to meet your needs. The 44 second cabin probably would not.

olderboater said: ↑ You indicated you were only looking at IPS? Click to expand...

Maxwell said: ↑ What budget are you trying to stay within? Click to expand...

Mark Woglom said: ↑ No. I'd consider other drives, but I'm only considering boats that are a few years old, and Formula only builds the newer 45's with pods. Click to expand...

The Formula my friend maintained, the 45' was an 2006ish I think IPS boat the owner bought new. He traded it into Formula for a new one of the same exact boat around 2012, another 45' exactly like his. So he really liked the boat and my friend raved about it. Another 45' to Consider is the regal it too has IPS, I have a customer that looked at all 3, 45' Searay, Tiara with IPS, and settled on the Regal and is happy with it, but I'd say their build quality is a step below the above mentioned 3. Tiara's are good quality and worth checking out also.

gr8trn Senior Member

Based on your stated list of features and budget after a quick advance search here are a few ideas. All of these are 2009 (I know you said 2010, but I hate to miss something great a year older), under $500K, all 2 standing staterooms, all enclosed pilot saloon style, all easy to own and operate and mostly not too exotic. Marquis 50 SC Elling LRC 49 Formula 45 Yacht (but until recently the pilot house is not enclosed and I think this is way to similar to your 370 SS cockpit, I own a Formula 260 bowrider and I agree that they are solid, timeless and always on any list in this price/size range) Cruisers Canthius 45 or 48 Navigator 4500 or 4800 (I have a Navigator Californian Venti 50, same hull as the 5100, these are serious coastal cruising platforms. Hand built in Perris CA, not the most fancy yacht in the harbour but great bang for the buck) Meridian 441 sedan Beneteau Swift Trawler 44 I think you have some work to do, have fun, #boatcrazy. -Greg

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Greg beat me to it but I was going to point you towards the Cruisers Yachts 45 and 48 Cantius. I've never run one but I did put their 338 Bowrider through its paces for what it's worth and was very impressed (cool boat in its class, by the way). I've been aboard the 45 and really like what they've done. The build quality seems consistent with their rep of being solid and the interior fit and finish was, in my opinion, very good and what you would expect at that price point (all things in boat bucks being relative). I have friends with older, large Cruisers that have held up extremely well and continue to offer solid performance. Like your view of the Forumla I'm not a huge fans of the Cruisers' lines but that wouldn't be a non-starter for me either. Perhaps bigger than you want and in a different price point, but I was extremely impressed with the Sea Ray 510 Sundancer. I think they did an excellent job of making the lower deck feel like an open loft. I loved the Regal 44/46 Sport Coupe in theory when it first came out. Then a very good friend bought one and whenever I was aboard I always had the feeling of being disappointed in finally meeting and spending time with someone you admired from a far. Some clever design concepts but some significant flaws, in my opinion, and real trouble with the fit and finish. His was a '12 bought new. I have always been impressed by the build quality of Formulas but have never run one of their newer, larger boats. I have owned a 1994 242SS for 20 years as an extra play toy and the thing impresses me everytime I take it out.

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06-10-2012, 12:00

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at the Bonneville Flats so more concentrated than the ocean, but you are right about the effect. The disk brakes came through. The rear brakes I replaced. The truck body and body have a lot of bodywork problems after 150,000 miles and a couple thousand on the flats alone.

If the can get through the outer coating to the talc body filler and the metal under it you will sooner or later have a mess. My truck and need to be redone and they both had been down to bare metal with an primer on everything.

If a person can do it the method you described....

...is by far the best solution,

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