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Love my Sea Ray but..any reason to not get a Formula?
- Thread starter Nick70
- Start date Oct 12, 2017
- Oct 12, 2017
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I've been talked off the ledge about re powering my 260 with a 496. So, looking at bigger Sea Rays I noticed that almost none have a cockpit layout like my 06 260. We love that portside lounger. I started to look at similar Formulas..they almost all have it! In addition, they seem like great boats. I'm focusing on the 31PC with dual merc HO 496/bravo III am I missing something or are formulas just really good boats?
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The 320 has almost the same layout. One reason I didn't want a 320, we didn't like the lounger.
Formulas are fantastic boats. Extremely well built and generally very fast. If you're OK with I/O's they're really good boats. I like the SR style better usually, and the older formulas used some wacky colors so they don't age as well. Whats your minimum size for your upgrade? Our 290 has the port side lounger, but they stopped this model 290 in 2001 so you'd have to go a bit older than your current boat.
I've never owned one, but have seen plenty around the docks. Guy across from me had a 40PC and it was a nice boat, he was a Formula guy and had owned several. My impression is they are good boats, built very well - many would say better than SeaRay. More of a performance boat than SeaRay (that is their heritage) and it shows even in their cruisers. From a styling perspective they seem more utilitarian than SeaRay - especially the older models. I don't like trying to compare brands - there are a number of brands that I would consider top production boats, Formula is definitely on that list for me. These days my interests are more in the mid 20's day boats, so boats like SeaRay Sundecks and Cobalt R5's interest me. If I were shopping for a 30-35' cruiser, I think a Formula would definitely be one to consider.
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When Formula came out with the pod drives on the 40'er I had a chance to drive one at the Miami boat show. Faster than he!! and handled like a sports car. I think part of the speed comes from the hull that is narrower than SR's hulls in the same size. Me not being a boat racer, I'd much rather have a wider beam on a slower boat than the fast boat with a narrow beam.
The Formulas are beautiful well made boats. I wouldn’t hesitate to get one. The one thing I noticed that was on the minus side by a very minor bit is they tend to have a narrower beam than a comparably sized Sea Ray. It cuts down interior space by a negligible amount. On the plus side, they are great boats that seem to perform a bit better than comparably sized boat. If I were buying a brand new boat I think that Formula might win out. Not a huge fan of the newer Sea Ray exterior styling. More importantly, in talking with the Formula guys at boat shows it seems that you can really personalize them these days with interior and hull color choices.
We went to the Cleveland boat show this past winter and they had a brand new 31PC and i loved that boat. just a tad out of my price range...lol. but loved it. it actually seemed bigger in the cabin than the SR but i wasn't measuring. i agree there older boats had horrid colors but the new one was nice. i heard the quality is top notch but have no experience with them
- Oct 13, 2017
Formula boats are great. A buddy of mine has the 31PC boat mentioned above and I love it. Much higher quality than a Sea Ray. His was a bit pricey but you get what you pay for. If you find one that meets your needs and is in your price range I wouldn't hesitate.
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We had a 2006 320 with 6.2's. We absolutely loved that boat except our kids didn't stop growing.. We chose the 320 over the 340 because of the port side lounger. You will love it if you decide to get one Btw: I believe formulas are a step up from SeaRay's but not enough beam for a family
I was looking at formulas also. The 34PC in the same year 2004 as I have now. The thing that broke me was the outdrives in Saltwater. If your in Fresh that's a different story. I was also on the fence with the cruising style. The Formula tended to dance around a bit at cruise. You have to play with the trim tabs a bit I found to keep it straight. My Searay is rock solid no matter where people move under way. Docking with the V-drives are easier. The formula also gets better gas mileage and is Faster. Not by much since I re-propped though. Drive them both if you can.
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- Oct 14, 2017
Nice boat, but they don't hold there value much hear in the NW. SeaRay holds a much better value. I had a friend back in 06 buy a new 27pc. $160k plus tax and no Genny. With twin VP 5.7s. He bragged about his zero interest first 3 years and 3% there after. 10 years later he could hardly give the boat away as he still owed a large balance. If you buy new be careful of zero interest programs. They just inflate the sell price to make up for the zero interest. That gap sticks with the principal for along long time. Hence your upside down from day one.
- Oct 16, 2017
Before owning my 44 DA, I had a 2005 Formula 370 SS, from 2007 to 2015. I loved it. They are built well, their gel coat work is better than my Sea Ray (2007) by far. I'm not being negative about my Sea Ray, we love it. I just absolutely loved my Formula too and would buy another without question. I've driven both the SS and PC boats Formula makes. While the SS is more of the fast style cruiser, the PC handles very well. Almost bought a 37 PC before getting our 44 DA. Went with the Sea Ray because the size difference was too great to pass up. The Formula 31 PC is an excellent boat, you'll love it!
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LG111 said: I had a friend back in 06 buy a new 27pc. ...10 years later he could hardly give the boat away Click to expand...
- Gelcoat. The finish is hands-down better.
- Attention to detail in the engine room. Wiring & hoses are routed beautifully, dual clamps on most fittings, very organized location of various systems, etc.
- Hull performance. I'm not just talking about speed. I have the 350CBR, and it slices through annoying 2'-3' chop better at 33-36 mph than it does at 25-28 mph. On every SR I've ever piloted (between 25'-50'), when rough water approaches, slowing down has always resulted in a more comfortable ride. I crossed Lake Michigan with a 90s-vintage 500DA in solid 2' chop; they asked to back down from a 30mph cruise to a 26mph cruise; since we were traveling together, I did the same, but ended up having a bumpier ride. I felt that was a nice testament to the Formula hull design; it's very, very capable in bumpy seas, even when the dry weight is probably 10,000lbs less than the 500DA.
- Fasteners. For whatever reason, my Formula has had more nuts, bolts, hinges, latches, and snaps come undone or break off than my Sea Rays. It might be petty, but it is really annoying to have to secure doors, brackets, etc. every couple of weeks. Most of these come loose due to vibration; one would think the engineers know this is a reality on a boat and use a design that's more durable. This really cheapens the brand, and this is where I have a hard time buying into the Formula fanboy syndrome of it being "all quality." (On the upside, my skills with the snap tool have exponentially improved this summer.)
- Simplicity of less deadrise. To get the Formula riding nicely, it requires a bit of playing with the tabs combined with trim. And then of course there's Active Trim (which is really a joke and I usually just turn it off). I guess that's the downside of the deeper vee (which gives the better aforementioned ride); I feel like with the SRs you can just put the throttles down and it's pretty mindless to keep the boat at a comfortable riding attitude.
- Material Durability. Formula uses lots of materials that look nice when they're brand new. I'm talking about the Corian on the cockpit wet bar, or even the gray fiberglass that surrounds cupholders. The truth is, people put down beer cans and uncork wine bottles and drop forks onto these surfaces, and they scratch too easily. I've taken my buffer and some light polish to the Corian three times this season, and I always put down a protective mat. (My SR had a nice stone surface on the bar, and it was tough as nails.)
FastMarkA said: I went from a Sea Ray to a new Formula this past year. Both are good boats, and like anything in life, both have their strengths and weaknesses. Where I find Formula has the edge over Sea Ray: Gelcoat. The finish is hands-down better. Attention to detail in the engine room. Wiring & hoses are routed beautifully, dual clamps on most fittings, very organized location of various systems, etc. Hull performance. I'm not just talking about speed. I have the 350CBR, and it slices through annoying 2'-3' chop better at 33-36 mph than it does at 25-28 mph. On every SR I've ever piloted (between 25'-50'), when rough water approaches, slowing down has always resulted in a more comfortable ride. I crossed Lake Michigan with a 90s-vintage 500DA in solid 2' chop; they asked to back down from a 30mph cruise to a 26mph cruise; since we were traveling together, I did the same, but ended up having a bumpier ride. I felt that was a nice testament to the Formula hull design; it's very, very capable in bumpy seas, even when the dry weight is probably 10,000lbs less than the 500DA. Things I miss about my SR: Fasteners. For whatever reason, my Formula has had more nuts, bolts, hinges, latches, and snaps come undone or break off than my Sea Rays. It might be petty, but it is really annoying to have to secure doors, brackets, etc. every couple of weeks. Most of these come loose due to vibration; one would think the engineers know this is a reality on a boat and use a design that's more durable. This really cheapens the brand, and this is where I have a hard time buying into the Formula fanboy syndrome of it being "all quality." (On the upside, my skills with the snap tool have exponentially improved this summer.) Simplicity of less deadrise. To get the Formula riding nicely, it requires a bit of playing with the tabs combined with trim. And then of course there's Active Trim (which is really a joke and I usually just turn it off). I guess that's the downside of the deeper vee (which gives the better aforementioned ride); I feel like with the SRs you can just put the throttles down and it's pretty mindless to keep the boat at a comfortable riding attitude. Material Durability. Formula uses lots of materials that look nice when they're brand new. I'm talking about the Corian on the cockpit wet bar, or even the gray fiberglass that surrounds cupholders. The truth is, people put down beer cans and uncork wine bottles and drop forks onto these surfaces, and they scratch too easily. I've taken my buffer and some light polish to the Corian three times this season, and I always put down a protective mat. (My SR had a nice stone surface on the bar, and it was tough as nails.) At the end of the day, you cannot go wrong with either boat. This is really an Audi vs. BMW comparison, not an Audi vs. Great Wall Motors. I do give a shot out to Formula's customer service (on the street known as TAG, "Thunderbird Assistance Group" (I think)). They are super responsive to basically any request. Click to expand...
Strecker25 said: Great comparison. I'd like to see a cross section of similar vintage hulls to compare the actual construction. Do Formula and SR use the same hull manufacturing techniques? Formula guys always talk about "how thick the hull is" when in reality I wonder whether its any different than other premium manufacturers. Click to expand...
RollerCoastr said: the way Formula wires tabs Click to expand...
- Oct 23, 2017
Sounds like you have it figured out. I was in the same boat as you..31 or 34 from a 26. I only have one son. I bet after a season you wish you had a 34...lol.. More room to party, More storage, bigger bed, Bigger head, Smoother ride, All and all a more comfortable boat. It really doesn't use that much more fuel. Didn't you say we didn't like the lounger.? Good luck with your choice.
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- Thread starter Rocket Jockey
- Start date Jan 21, 2013
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- Jan 25, 2013
Great info, thanks. Unfortunately the 37PC I was interested in has the dreaded sagging headliner. Does anyone know what year they changed the headliner materials or process that corrected the sagging issue? I have an email into Formula to ask the question but not sure I will get a response. There are pros and cons on every boat but the more I look at the Formula, the more I am convinced I want a Formula. Now I just need to be patient and find the right one. Scott
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Rocket Jockey said: Great info, thanks. Unfortunately the 37PC I was interested in has the dreaded sagging headliner. Does anyone know what year they changed the headliner materials or process that corrected the sagging issue? I have an email into Formula to ask the question but not sure I will get a response. There are pros and cons on every boat but the more I look at the Formula, the more I am convinced I want a Formula. Now I just need to be patient and find the right one. Scott Click to expand...
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I was a die hard Sea Ray fan until while looking at 340's I came across a 2004 37PC. There was no comparison in quality of build, smartness of layout and design. I have never been more happy with a boat. The factory offers super support always getting back to me the same day I make an enquiry. The big sell came when we took it out in fairly rough conditions and the boat cut through the waves like butter.
Interesting thread. My wife and I first looked at the Cruisers 3470, then the Formula 31 and 34 PCs. I did like the interior cabinetry in the Cruisers (still do), but in all other aspects, the Formula won hands down. Perhaps apples and oranges considering the price, but I'm happy with the choice we made. We did sea trial both the Cruisers and 34PC. The Formula with big blocks (and I/Os) at cruise was only slightly faster than the V-drive Cruisers with 7.4s. (The boats were nearly identical in size, but the Formula weighed 15,800 lbs, while the Cruisers weighed 11,400 lbs. Perhaps this is one glimpse into the differing construction, one being heavy duty, one not.) Anyhow, the hull design, and weight of the Formula make for a far better ride in chop. BTW, ditto on what others have said.....you don't have to boat in a big body of water to have rough water......you just need to have a lot of other boats stirring up the water around you. This may be something to think about R-J, depending on how crowded the waters are in your area. Here's an interesting example. I used to have a dock neighbor right next to me who owned a 3470. One day, he came across the Chesapeake Bay, from Cape Charles to Norfolk. When he returned, he said that he had been beaten to death. He further eluded to having to come off plane several times, and jockey the power with the waves. Funny thing, I was out in the bay that day on a similar journey, and it wasn't all that bad! Choppy, yes, but uncomfortable? Not at all. THAT's the Formula difference. ;D
There is a repossessed 37 PC at National Liquidators in Florida. You can probably get a pretty good price on it, I bought a boat from them several years ago and it was in mint condition with only 100 hours.
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Since I have a very biased opinion, I have been keeping my mouth shut since the start of this thread. I really like the different opinions here, and respect every one. Here is mine. I am comparing the Cruisers 32 foot boat because this is docked pretty close to me. The boat is just a piece of crap. I really mean that. The owner bought it brand new in 2006, and has hated it and its manufacturer since delivery. This guy tries to keep it nice, but the faded gelcote will not look good unless it is buffed with heavy compound, and waxed. He tries very hard to keep up, but the quality of the boat fights him every step of the way. He had a professional come in and compound the boat, and produced excellent results. Two weeks later, it was starting to fade and look non glossy. He waxed it again, and the wax produced a shine, but not like a Formula shine. He looks at mine all the time, and cannot believe that mine outshines his, even when the season is close to being over. The upholstery in the cockpit in his looks 20 years old. He covers the boat always, and the seats look like they need replaced. Foam sags, and seats just look shabby. They use this plastic material between the seams of the interior where it meets the walls, that distorts from being 7 years old. Looks really bad because they do not spend the money and time to make a panel that is an exact fit. I can go on and on, but I hope you get the picture here. Remember, you are on a Formula forum, and we all know the quality of our boats. We all go to boat shows and examine other brands. We all boat with many others that have other brands. There are only a handful of manufacturers out there that believe in the same thing Formula believes in. Quality product, top of the line service, and repeat business. Cruisers cannot touch that. Good luck in your search. My famous saying is BUYING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A FORMULA IS LIKE PUTTING RADIAL TIRES ON A GARBAGE TRUCK.
Agree with Gsent but was trying to be more gentle!! The only reason I had the other boats was that I had not seen a Formula until the Miami boat show in 1995. Instantly knew I had to have the Formula and bought it that day!!!
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- Jan 26, 2013
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Agree with Gary. I look at a maroon Cruiser at marina all the time. It's 4 years old now and it appears to be 40 years old. He waxes and polishes that boat all the time. Meanwhile the gel just fades away. Too bad. Meanwhile mine gets waxed at beginning of the year and just shines.
Well I agree to a point with gsent. As I have had a 37PC and now a 52 express cruisers. Imron paint is with out a doubt better on the color sides. But wood work in side is real and better built inside on my cruisers. But remember the size and price range difference between the 2 models. wiring and plumbing both out standing in both. extra details go slightly to formula but very small edge. I cannot type all the differences but both built well. some models in both lines have duds there has been separation in decks with formulas also. the only reason i do not own a 45-48 formula is it does not come close in what we wanted on a large boat. If we own this one for the same amount of time as the 37 i could better answer all the issues. Also parts and answers for us has been about the same for cruisers and formula the one glaring difference is factory reps answer on the 2 cruisers forums where they do not here. Slow and sometimes maybe a little cloudy but they do. Parts have been excellent on both. My .02 anyway
Thanks again for your comments. I have analyzed this whole boat thing to death, lost sleep, drank more, have a few more gray hairs..... If we can find the right one, I am pretty sure we will be buying a 37PC. I am sold on the quality of the Formula and while the interior wood and some of the finish work below deck may be better in the Cruisers Yachts, I am sold on the layout of the 37PC both above and below deck. Above deck the layouts are very similar. But below deck...... Cruisers put the head opposite the settee/dining area vs. Formula putting the galley opposite the settee/dining area and that opens the whole boat and gives it a very spacious feel. The aft cabin is much more open and the way it transitions into a bed is pure genius. The island berth bed is also a feature we have grown to want, being able to get in/out on either side and having an open view to aft, vs. the CY where your head is behind the bathroom wall. Will I pay more? No doubt. I am hoping the quality of the Formula will make it a better value in the years to come. I am in no way taking anything away from the Cruisers Yachts; Jason's 340 is a beautiful boat. I was 100% sold on the CY 340/3470 until I stepped aboard the 37 PC. But that is just my personal preference. By the way, I am accepting donations to the "Help RJ Buy a Formula" fund........just saying.... ;D
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Fomula’s Super Sport Crossover series of boats deliver the exceptional performance of the FAS3Tech stepped hull in a versatile line of boats from 38- to 50- feet LOA . Topside you can easily seat a crowd thanks to the big bow lounge and aft cockpit. And, you can easily go from bow to stern thanks to the convenient side walkthrough. Compared to a full on cabin boat, this makes handling the boat while docking much easier .
Of course, there are commodious accommodations belowdecks , and despite not having a “full” cabin, a family or couple can easily cruise aboard these boats if they desire. A list of features is below.
- Luxury combined with versatility and performance
- 38- , 40-,43- and 50-foot models
- Twin, triple, and quad-engine models are available
- Available outboard and sterndrive models
- Excellent ride for open water excursions
- Formula FAS3Tech stepped hull enhances speed and efficiency
- A large swim platform, wraparound aft and bow lounges, and a cabin for daytime convenience make this boat great for longer cruising or entertaining
Formula’s 43-foot All Sport Crossover is one unique boat. It offers plenty of seating topside thanks to its expansive bow lounge. The layout makes for easy movement from bow to stern, which is a real advantage while docking . Plus, there’s a nice cabin that will sleep a small family for an overnight…or a week. The head is large and includes a shower.
What’s this All Sport business? The extra-large swim platform becomes a multi-function area for those that like to fish, dive, or entertain . Enjoy rod holders, livewells, and refrigerated fish boxes to chill your catch (or your beverages) . Check out the bullet points below for a sampling of how you might equip your Formula All Sport Crossover.
- 43-foot boat with a unique mission and outboard power
- Versatility to cruise, dayboat, fish, dive and more
- Chef-inspired galley
- Huge swim/activity platform
- Livewells, tackle stowage, prep center, rod holders, and more fishing gear
- Triple-Command helm seating with lumbar support
- Bow lounge/easy forward cockpit access
- Twin big screen helm displays
- Excellent ride and spirited handling
- Available with quad Mercury Verado or Mercury Racing outboards
Formula first built “cc” boats in the 1980’s and they offer two center console models – the 387 Center Console Fish and the 387 Center Console Sport. If you are looking for an all-out fishing vessel, the 387 Center Console Fish is your boat. If you are looking for more versatility, the 387 Center Console Sport may be a better option. Below are options both boats share:
- Stepped hull for ride, performance, speed and efficiency
- Choose twin Mercury Verado 600s, Triple Mercury Verado V8s or V10s , or Triple Mercury Racing 450Rs
- Formula Flex program for customizing colors, fabrics, electronics and more
- Gemlux outriggers
- Twin or Triple big screen helm displays available
- Flip down transom bench
- Temperature-controlled fishboxes
- Cabin boasts a 6’4’ headroom
- 8,000 btu air-conditioner
Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers deliver the finest level of cruising luxuries for their size. These boats combine the highest standards of fit, finish and construction a boat buyer might find. Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers ride a deep-V hull, providing boat owners with a higher level of ride and handling than is typical for this type of boat. Powered by sterndrives or outboards, and available in 310 and 350 model designations, Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers offer buyers of this boat type the best of everything for a top-of-the-market price. A list of features is below.
- Weekend cruising amenities riding race-bred deep-V hull shapes
- Wetbar for entertaining and food and drink service
- Wraparound lounges
- Double-wide helm seating
- High-gloss galley with sink, refrigerator and Corian countertop
- Choose radar arch, stainless sport top, sport top with retractable shade or hardtop w/sunroof
- Large standard swim platform
- Extended swim platform available (two versions)
- Available cockpit refrigerator
- Available cockpit grill
- 31- and 35-foot models
- Outboard and sterndrive models available
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At Boating, we have been testing Formula Boats for decades . We have worked personally with Formula designer John Adams, and other experts at Formula, plus our contacts at engine and accessory companies, in applying our own expertise and experience in bringing you these boat tests. We think you will find them valuable for researching your next boat purchase.
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Formula Boats offers many unique features, and more importantly, a unique blend of features and heritage, for boat buyers to consider. Check out the FAQ!
Each and every Formula hull is and has been, designed by the noted designer, John Adams. Each hull is rooted in the tradition of blue water racing that Formula forged decades ago. Specific unique features–just a few of many–include the FAS3Tech hull form ; the way in which Formula aligns the screw heads on accessory installations; painted graphics , rather than stickers, look better and last longer; its variety of arches and swim platforms; and its use of Ilmor racing engines and equipment upon customer request.
Formula boats range from about $175,000 for a 240 Bowrider to $3.5 million or more for a 500 SSC . (*2023 prices)
Formula builds a range of boat types and sizes. The two primary connecting factors in this diverse fleet are the race-bred handling and ride and the top-quality craftsmanship.
According to our sources at Formula, the 350 Crossover Bowrider is the most popular model that they build.
Yes. Better than most boats due to their high-quality and limited production.
A well-cared-for Formula boat can last decades and become a family heirloom. The engines will have been replaced on such boats.
Formula boats are not lightweight, nor are they especially heavy. Their weight, like their other characteristics, is designed to work with a given model’s mission and performance expectations.
Formula boats are generally built to a higher standard and in lower numbers than other craft of similar size and intent. Comparison shoppers should look at Chris-Craft and Cobalt when shopping for many Formula models. Formula’s center console models compare well with those made by Boston Whaler, Tiara, Pursuit and Intrepid.
Features such as Imron hull graphics , chrome-plated stainless metals and overall excellence in design , build and assembly make Formula boats easier to maintain than most boats.
Formula Boats are manufactured in Decatur, IN.
Yes. The 37-foot center console models are excellent for inshore and offshore fishing.
Yes, while you can ski, tube and enjoy other watersports behind any Formula model , the 24 to 35 foot models make these activities easier.
Formula’s CBR series, the Crossover Bowriders , can be used for overnight or weekend cruising, depending upon your crew and the specific model.
Formula Sun Sports can be used for extended cruising, perhaps spending a week or more aboard.
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Mark Woglom Senior Member
I've been on the forum for a few years, and have owned Azimut and Lazzara yachts. Recently, we sold the Lazzara in favor of a home in FL. Long story, but 68' of boat was a lot to manage for a couple in their 50's without a captain to head up the maintenance. (more importantly, the wife wanted the cats to come south for the winter!) Fast forward. We bought a 26' Pursuit dual console, that we keep in front of our house. Great boat for tooling around the bay, but we miss cruising. We'd like to buy an "easy to maintain" express cruiser, that we can use for shorter weekend type trips, with one other couple. Something between 40' and 50', preferably. I own a 2005 Formula 370SS, that we use on a lake up north. I bought the boat new, and the thing has been bulletproof. Almost nothing goes wrong, and the boat performs great. Now, I'm considering a Formula 45 Yacht, or anything else with comparable accommodations. I'm no fan of the 45 Yacht aesthetics, but it has a lot to offer, and based upon all my other Formula experience, I'm confident that the boat is very well built. These are some of our criteria: 1. Hardtop, with a windshield that meets the hardtop. I don't care to deal with canvas between the two. 2. We'd like it to be easy to use as a day boat, so it needs to be easy to "cover up". We don't want to spend 30 mins covering up the exterior seating. 3. It needs to have two distinct staterooms (with doors), with stand up headroom in at least a portion of each stateroom. 4. I don't want strange/foreign systems .... if it breaks, I want parts that are readily available. 5. Ride is critical. I want a boat that will ride well in 2-4 footers, without having to put the boat back together, and without having to see the dentist. 6. 2010, or newer, but I could bend for the right boat. I've looked at Sea Ray Sundancer, and the aesthetic is more to my liking. However, most all of the Sundancers don't have a dedicated 2nd stateroom, and they don't seem to have the same build quality, such as with upholstery. There were a couple of others that we have looked at, but none seemed to have all of the right combination that meets our needs. My questions: 1. Anybody have experience with a Formula 45 Yacht? 2. Any other suggestions?
Capt J Senior Member
I have maintained a 48' Formula 2006 for a long time now. I'm not a fan of how it performs, it rides way bow high, and we put blocks in the trim tabs to try to get the bow down. A friend of mine took care of a 45' yacht, IPS boat and liked it. I think the Searay is a good boat and wouldn't discount it either, especially if you like it. What about a Fountain 48' Express Cruiser, fast,ride and has the functionality you're looking for. Another would be a 44' Cabo without a tower, speed and a great ride.
Capt J said: ↑ I have maintained a 48' Formula 2006 for a long time now. I'm not a fan of how it performs, it rides way bow high, and we put blocks in the trim tabs to try to get the bow down. A friend of mine took care of a 45' yacht, IPS boat and liked it. Click to expand...
Maxwell Senior Member
We had looked a lot at the Formula 40 as well as 45 prior to purchasing our first Tiara. The 45 had a nice layout and performed fine, however the narrow beam, gunwhales and slant down at the bow (near foot controls for windlass) turned us away... The gunwhales were my biggest issue. Although you can walk through the windshield, they were just too narrow for my wife to really be comfortable handling fenders and lines etc... What budget are you trying to stay within?
olderboater Senior Member
When you added IPS as a requirement that narrowed it a bit. I would try to get a sea trial somewhere in the Formula to determine if it passes what you need there. If so, you've had a good experience with them so why not just continue. It has a nice layout. The second cabin headroom is lacking at 5'8". I just have no idea how it rides in rough seas. I do have one other significant reservation on the Formula. It's fuel capacity is only 350 gallons. That gives you a range of only 250 nm at ideal cruise and 225 nm at most other speeds with as low as 183 nm at 11 knots. I guess my question there is do you see Bahamas trips in it's future? The 45 actually started around 2006 with V-Drives. It had better speed but I'm sure poorer economy. Among others you might consider. I know several very happy Sabre owners. You indicated you were only looking at IPS? If so that quickly eliminates Sea Ray. It also would eliminate the Viking SC's. The Tiara 50 Coupe would fit your requirements. I don't have enough knowledge of it to have an opinion. Hunt has a couple of boats in that range. The 52 would seem to meet your needs. The 44 second cabin probably would not.
olderboater said: ↑ You indicated you were only looking at IPS? Click to expand...
Maxwell said: ↑ What budget are you trying to stay within? Click to expand...
Mark Woglom said: ↑ No. I'd consider other drives, but I'm only considering boats that are a few years old, and Formula only builds the newer 45's with pods. Click to expand...
The Formula my friend maintained, the 45' was an 2006ish I think IPS boat the owner bought new. He traded it into Formula for a new one of the same exact boat around 2012, another 45' exactly like his. So he really liked the boat and my friend raved about it. Another 45' to Consider is the regal it too has IPS, I have a customer that looked at all 3, 45' Searay, Tiara with IPS, and settled on the Regal and is happy with it, but I'd say their build quality is a step below the above mentioned 3. Tiara's are good quality and worth checking out also.
gr8trn Senior Member
Based on your stated list of features and budget after a quick advance search here are a few ideas. All of these are 2009 (I know you said 2010, but I hate to miss something great a year older), under $500K, all 2 standing staterooms, all enclosed pilot saloon style, all easy to own and operate and mostly not too exotic. Marquis 50 SC Elling LRC 49 Formula 45 Yacht (but until recently the pilot house is not enclosed and I think this is way to similar to your 370 SS cockpit, I own a Formula 260 bowrider and I agree that they are solid, timeless and always on any list in this price/size range) Cruisers Canthius 45 or 48 Navigator 4500 or 4800 (I have a Navigator Californian Venti 50, same hull as the 5100, these are serious coastal cruising platforms. Hand built in Perris CA, not the most fancy yacht in the harbour but great bang for the buck) Meridian 441 sedan Beneteau Swift Trawler 44 I think you have some work to do, have fun, #boatcrazy. -Greg
Cruz Member
Greg beat me to it but I was going to point you towards the Cruisers Yachts 45 and 48 Cantius. I've never run one but I did put their 338 Bowrider through its paces for what it's worth and was very impressed (cool boat in its class, by the way). I've been aboard the 45 and really like what they've done. The build quality seems consistent with their rep of being solid and the interior fit and finish was, in my opinion, very good and what you would expect at that price point (all things in boat bucks being relative). I have friends with older, large Cruisers that have held up extremely well and continue to offer solid performance. Like your view of the Forumla I'm not a huge fans of the Cruisers' lines but that wouldn't be a non-starter for me either. Perhaps bigger than you want and in a different price point, but I was extremely impressed with the Sea Ray 510 Sundancer. I think they did an excellent job of making the lower deck feel like an open loft. I loved the Regal 44/46 Sport Coupe in theory when it first came out. Then a very good friend bought one and whenever I was aboard I always had the feeling of being disappointed in finally meeting and spending time with someone you admired from a far. Some clever design concepts but some significant flaws, in my opinion, and real trouble with the fit and finish. His was a '12 bought new. I have always been impressed by the build quality of Formulas but have never run one of their newer, larger boats. I have owned a 1994 242SS for 20 years as an extra play toy and the thing impresses me everytime I take it out.
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Six Good Boats to Compare. Sea Ray 370 Sundancer. Formula 37 Performance Cruiser. Regal 35 Sport Coupe. Cruisers Yachts 38 Express. Bavaria Sport 360 HT. Beneteau Gran Turismo 35. We have six express cruisers in what many experienced skippers think is a good compromise between size and cost. These boats are big enough for four people to ...
Formula 45 Yacht Formula. Another Option…Formula 45 Yacht Two boats are better than one. Formula's optional remote-controlled, hydraulic swim platform can carry a PWC for quick trips to shore — or when your crew is longing for a little playtime. ... Contact: Cruisers Yachts Oconto, Wisconsin; 920-834-2211; cruisersyachts.com. Class ...
Ask Capt. Steve - Pros/Cons of the Formula 40PC and Cruisers 390? Jan 10, 2023. Our videos and reports are intended to help you sort out the differences among boats in the same class. By using our comparison feature, you can compare basic specs, which often highlight the most important differences between boats.
The Cruisers Yachts 50 GLS is a large and luxurious outboard-powered dayboat that rides well, entertains a large crowd, and offers cruising amenities. ... Another $1 million gets you a Formula 500 SSC with four Merc 600s ($3,537,110), plus another 10 mph at wide-open throttle. Do compare and run both boats.
As far as seakeeping you can't beat the Formula deep-V's. I haven't any experience with the 40PC but it may be a bit faster than the 41PC, although if speed is a big part of what you want you need to dial back to the 37PC. Now that is a fast express cruiser. Good luck in your search, the 41PC is a great boat. B.
Here are five great dayboat mega-bowriders that will exceed your boating expectations. Editor's Note: Check out our in-depth test of each model - Formula 380 SSC OB, Tiara Sport 38 LX, Cruisers Yachts 38 GLS, Monterey 385 SE, Sea Ray SLX 400. The 380 SSC is designed for relaxation and entertainment. Courtesy Formula Boats.
When you look at published dry weight comparisons, though, at least in the case of the SR 350 SLX vs. Formula 350 CBR, which are 34' 6" x 10' 6" and 35' x 10'9" respectively, the Formula is 1,600 lbs. heavier. It's no secret that, in most cases, the Formula is a heavier boat than its competitors.
Formula 350 SS:Twin MerCruiser V-8 Power, 53.2 MPH WOT. Formula 350 SS. Powered with twin 430-hp MerCruiser 8.2 MAG H.O.s for our tests, the Formula 350 SS was quick out of the hole despite a weight over 14,000 pounds (6,350 kg) as tested. She turned in a top speed of 53.2 mph. Her 21-degree deadrise and sharp forward entry should deliver a ...
Sport boats like the Formula 37 PC are fast and fun, and they make day cruises a blast. Formula Boats builds plenty of models that fit that mold, but with its Performance Cruiser (PC) line, they take things up a notch for boaters who want to spend a weekend or longer aboard.. Plenty of used but late-model Formula 37 PC's are on the market; this 2013 model in Wrightsville Beach, SC, has twin ...
We did sea trial both the Cruisers and 34PC. The Formula with big blocks (and I/Os) at cruise was only slightly faster than the V-drive Cruisers with 7.4s. (The boats were nearly identical in size, but the Formula weighed 15,800 lbs, while the Cruisers weighed 11,400 lbs.
Cruisers Yachts adds a new mid-size Cantius to their line-up, and this boat is more than a mere carbon-copy of the larger (or smaller) sibling. By Lenny Rudow. January 10, 2013. Cruisers Yachts introduced their 48 Cantius a few years back, and it was unlike any other express cruiser on the market. In fact, it was also unlike any mid-cabin ...
David Pascoe - Biography. " Marine Investigations " (2004). Over 80 used boat reviews by David Pascoe, marine surveyor "The purpose of these boat reviews is educational, to help you discern the differences in quality among boats generally. They are not offered as a means to help you evaluate any particular boat builder."
The SS models are nearly the same weight as the PC (cruisers) but have a beam 1/2 way between the fastech and PC models. They also have stepped hulls and the OPTION of bigger motors. The 370 and 400 are tall enough to stand in. The 350,370,400 models all have aft cabins and gensets are common. These boats run 50-60 depending on which engine ...
Mar 29, 2017. These four bowriders are nearly identical in length, varying by only 7 inches, from the Sea Ray SLX 280 at 28'6" to the Regal 29 OBX at 29'1". The Cruisers 298 is narrowest, at 8'6" beam; the others are all 9'. But the Formula 290 weighs 8,950 lbs. according to the company specs, compared to the svelte Cruisers 298's 6,285 lbs.
Cruisers Yachts 50 GLS vs. 50 Cantius. When comparing the 50 GLS and the 50 Cantius, it becomes clear that these two boats are not only different in terms of their boat type, design emphasis, and overall focus, but also in the experiences they offer to owners. Entertainment-Focused 50 GLS
The 45 Yacht is a bluewater boat designed to make its way confidently through heavy seas. With IPS, the Formula displaces about 32,500 pounds, which means it has the weight to handle the messy stuff you might meet cruising from Florida to the Bahamas, or out on the Great Lakes. It's suited for distance cruising or weekending, and owners of ...
Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers ride a deep-V hull, providing boat owners with a higher level of ride and handling than is typical for this type of boat. Powered by sterndrives or outboards, and available in 310 and 350 model designations, Formula Sun Sport Performance Cruisers offer buyers of this boat type the best of everything for a ...
Great boat for tooling around the bay, but we miss cruising. We'd like to buy an "easy to maintain" express cruiser, that we can use for shorter weekend type trips, with one other couple. Something between 40' and 50', preferably. I own a 2005 Formula 370SS, that we use on a lake up north. I bought the boat new, and the thing has been bulletproof.
Images: 7. Re: Bondo vs formula 27 vs epoxy fairing. Bondo filler claims to have no more than 0.3% moisture absorbtion on unfinished surfaces. A proper marine primer and finish coats would undoubtedly decrease that percentage to, perhaps, almost zero.
The oldest boat was built in 1999 and the newest model is 2019. The starting price is $76,500, the most expensive is $379,900, and the average price of $227,448. Find 24 Formula Cruiser boats for sale near you, including boat prices, photos, and more. Locate Formula boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader!
Sea Ray SLX 350. Four Winns Horizon 350. Chaparral 337 SSX. Cruisers Yachts 338 Bow Rider. This comparison includes bowriders from 33' to 35' (10.05 m to 10.67 m). All of these bowriders are huge -- and they can entertain more people than most pontoon boats can legally carry. In many ways, bowriders this size are the quintessential dayboats for ...
Feb 3, 2008. Messages. 1,119. Jun 23, 2008. #2. Re: Sea Ray Vs. Formula. Don Aronow & Vic Porter are the ones responsible for Formula Boats,Whereas in 1986 Sea Ray became part of the Brunswick Corporation which is the largest manufacturer of boats around,owning most boat company's such as - Cabo-boston whaler-lowe-lund-sea pro-maxum-sea ray ect
The yacht's mast stood 72.27 meters (237 feet) high above the designated water line, just short of the world's tallest mast which is 75.2 meters, according to Guinness World Records.