38' sailboat

Home Eagle 38

11,77 m (38' 6")

2,60 m (8' 6")

Displacement

1,85 meters or 1,25 meter (6' 1" or 4' 1")

As one can expect from Leonardo Yachts no compromises on beauty and elegance were made. The exterior truly captures the style and elegance of a Spirit of Tradition yacht. The 38 foot sailboat has a timeless appeal with elegant classic lines combined with ultra-modern deck hardware and a modern underwater body. The modern classic boat is designed as a true daysailer; the cockpit comfortably seats six people so family or friends can come along to enjoy a day on the water in style. At the same time the Eagle 38 can also easily be sailed single handed .

For ease of handling the jib winches are positioned within easy reach of the helmsman. Optionally the 38 can be equipped with electric powered jib winches. Combined with a powered captive mainsheet winch and electric halyard winch, this will make trimming and hoisting the sails of the 38 foot yacht as easy as pushing a button. The halyard winch is conveniently placed on the coach roof combined with the below deck mounted jib furler system ensuring hoisting or lowering your sails will never be a hassle.

The Eagle 38 is also built for performance. With its sleek design and state-of-the-art technology, this boat is sure to turn heads and provide a smooth and thrilling sailing experience.

The interior is light and airy with plenty of daylight and warm LED lights. The varnished mahogany furniture and ceiling in alcantara give the 38 an elegant and luxurious feel. The interior of the 38 ft sailboat offers sleeping space for three people. To complete the comfort of a daysailer, a toilet is convenient and neatly built in out of sight in the cabin.

The Eagle 38 can be personalized in many ways. Hull color, color of the Permateek deck and caulking, different wood finishes for the interior and by making your personal choice for the interior and exterior cushion fabric, you can design the Eagle 38 to your personal preferences. Furthermore, there are performance upgrades possible as for example different race orientated sails like North Sails 3Di sails and a carbon mast. Please contact  us to explore all the possibilities.

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1,85 meters or 1,25 meters (6' 1" or 4' 1")

Mast height

13,80 meter above DWL

Construction

GRP vinylester

CE Category

C (shore- and coastal waters)

Hoek Design

Deck/hatches

Permateek with flush hatches

Self draining with Permateek flooring

Mahogany matt varnished

Volvo D1-13 12 hp sail drive or Oceanvolt SD8 electric

45 liters diesel

Fresh water

Waste water

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Classic Plastic: Catalina 38

• By Michael Robertson
• Updated: June 12, 2014

Catalina 38

In 1978, Catalina Yachts was a young company with a Midas touch, enjoying brisk sales of its sailboats from 22 to 30 feet, all of them designed and built in house. And then company owner Frank Butler tried something different. He bought the mold for the Yankee 38, designed by Sparkman & Stephens and descended from a successful one-off IOR aluminum raceboat, from the bankrupt Yankee Boat Co. Butler saw this competitive racer as a flagship that would raise the profile of the Catalina fleet. He was right. In 1980, the Catalina 38 was selected for the prestigious Congressional Cup. The company went on to build 366 Catalina 38s over the next 14 years.

Butler made significant changes to the S&S design. He replaced the skeg-hung rudder with a balanced spade rudder and created a high-aspect-ratio rig with a taller mast and shorter boom. He redesigned the interior for weekender livability and the deck and trunk cabin to match Catalina aesthetics.

Other aspects of the dated racing design — long overhangs, generous tumblehome and a pert little reverse transom — give the Catalina 38 its pleasing lines. Butler’s redesigned deck gives it a sleek, low profile but narrow side decks are a result of those changes. Passage from the cockpit to the foredeck can be tricky, especially if a wide dodger is fitted.

With its pedigree, it’s no surprise that owners report the Catalina 38 sails to windward like it’s on rails and also sails beautifully in light air. That superior upwind performance comes with a draft that approaches 7 feet, a limiting factor for some cruising sailors.

Boats designed to the IOR have a reputation for poor manners and instability downwind. But that reputation was earned under race conditions when boats were intentionally overpowered and driven hard. A cruising couple is unlikely to push any boat to the brink of broaching, and many find the IOR warhorses, including the Catalina 38, in fact make fine cruising boats.

Down below, the major interior components are incorporated into a molded hull liner. Teak trim and veneer are used for doors, drawer facings and bulkheads. In early models the cabin sole was fiberglass, but in later models it was covered with teak and holly veneer.

The keel-stepped mast abuts the bulkhead forward of the main saloon. Forward of the bulkhead are the head to port, lockers to starboard and the V-berth, which easily accommodates two adults.

A U-shaped dinette to port (that converts to a double berth) is the main feature in the saloon. Aft of the dinette is a snug U-shaped galley.

On the starboard side of the saloon is a long settee with stowage behind and beneath it. A nav station backs up to a quarter berth that extends under the cockpit.

Owners with cruising plans might find the tankage limiting, but they should avoid adding weight in the bow and stern of this fine-ended boat.

The Atomic 4 gasoline engine was fitted in very early boats but many have been replaced. The 24-horsepower Universal diesel in later ones reportedly lacks the power to push the boat at hull speed in moderate wind and chop. Engine access is adequate.

The Catalina 38 enjoys a loyal following, and owners praise its design, build quality and performance. Rare for boats of this vintage, the builder is still in business, and provides design and parts support. Asking prices range from $25,000 to $75,000, with older boats at the lower end of the bracket.

This article first appeared in the February 2014 issue of Cruising World. Click here to see more sailboats from Catalina .

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1984 Garcia Maracuja 38

Hull, Massachusetts

Make Garcia

Model Maracuja 38

Category Cruiser Sailboats

Posted Over 1 Month

A bluewater aluminium sailboat that can take you anywhere safely. This was our home from 2015 to 2018 when we crossed the Atlantic with our 3 kids from south of France. see: www.nomadatsea.com Deriver integral (center-board) with two boards – central and a second one at the stern in front of the rudder (reaching-board). Go-anywhere with only 3 feet draft with boards up. Boat is on the hard and will require some preparations before it can go cruising again. displacement 9 tons Engine Yanmar 3JH4CE 39HP with Saildrive Yanmar SD40 from 2004 Integrated diesel tank 350 L 2 water tanks: flexible 240 L and another Stainless steel 250 L Rigging and sails Sloop 16 m Dacron Genoa 50.5 m2, anti-uv on a furler Dacron Jib 30 m2 on a removable headstay Storm sail 8 m2 All sails are from 2011 Anchoring Manual windlass Simpson-Lawrence Sea-Tiger 555 WASI 25 kg stainless steel + 60 m of galvanized 10 mm chain Brittany anchor 16 kg + 10 m of 10 mm chain FOBHP anchor 20 kg + 10 m of 10 mm chain Danforth anchor for a dinghy Electronics Anemometer Gramin GWS10 (thermoeter, barometer) Speedometer + sounder Airmar DST800V Depth sounder Garmin NMEA 2000 GPS Garmin 17x NMEA 2000 AIS receiver/transmitter Amec Camino 101 + dedicated GPS and VHF antennas 12v PC + flat screen to which all electronics are connected as well Radar Goldstar GS 916 Raymarine SPX30 auto pilot Raymarine P70 auto pilot command NMEA2000 VHF Standard Horizon GX2100 with AIS receiver VHF repeater RAM3 in the cockpit SSB Icom M802 Pactor PTC-2pro modem (used to send and receive emails and weather) Xantrex PROwatt SW 1400i, 230V, 1400W converter Solar panels 1 x 90W; 2 x 75W; 1 x 75W MPP Solara regulator Electric Energy D400 Wind generator Life raft Viking RescYou Pro 6 person Sailomat 601-X6 Windwane Lavac marine heads Black water tank 45 L General 2 cabines with double berths + double berth in the bow (‘lit breton’) Tiller in the cockpit 2 very large cockpit lockers Big and very practical stern swimming platform Plenty of spare parts

1980 Catalina 38

Make Catalina

Category Cruiser

Cushions are detached and stored elsewhere. The bottom of the boat is repainted. The interior doesn't have a funky smell but needs deep cleaning. New batteries installed recently. Stock #344687 38' performance cruiser! Fast, seaworthy sloop designed by Sparkman and Stephens! This 1980 Catalina 38 is a sailboat that has stood the test of time. It has sleek lines and a well-balanced hull design which allows for a comfortable sailing in various weather conditions. The well-designed cabin layout, provides ample room for sleeping, dining and relaxing onboard. Sailing wise, Catalina is known for its good sailing performance and handling. Whether you're racing or cruising, this Catalina 38 can offer an enjoyable sailing experience. The 1980 Catalina 38 offers a combination of comfort and performance, making it a great choice for sailboat enthusiasts. Reason for selling is not using enough.

1983 Sabre 38 CB

Green Cove Springs, Florida

Model 38 CB

Category Sloop

Sabre has always produced a true quality vessel, handsome and elegant, with all the sailing qualities that you would expect in a boat with this heritage. According to the owner, this boat is in great condition inside and out. There are many upgrades! Her clean classic lines and recognizable profile will always create a case of "boat envy" among your dock neighbors. Stock #339828 Just Back from the Bahamas!! Ready to Take Off Again!! You Can Sail This One Away!! VERY MOTIVATED SELLER!! THIS SABRE HAS SERVED HIM WELL BUT HE'S READY TO MOVE ON TO HIS NEXT ADVENTURE!! MAKE AN OFFER TODAT!! Sharp looking 1983 Sabre 38 sailboat. Powered by a Westerbeke 33 HP single diesel engine. She is a comfortable cruising boat, ready to sail off for either solo or family memory-making adventures. And with her centerboard configuration, you can easily navigate the skinny or deep water. The teak interior craftsmanship is very rich, and the laminate sole, new countertops, and updated head with vessel sink provide an "updated" appearance. There is an abundant amount of storage throughout this cabin layout. Victron Energy solar and battery monitoring/controlling equipment and B&G marine navigational electronics. Electronics include depth sounder, wind speed and direction plotter, autopilot, compass, GPS, and VHF. Sail inventory includes fully battened two reef main, furling Genoa, and an Asymmetric spinnaker. The main and the Gen were serviced by the Irish Sail Lady (St. Augustine) in the fall of 2022. All running rigging was new in 2016/2017. The sale includes a recently-installed Kingston Davit system with optional configurations (incl a motor lift) and a folding swim platform. If you are looking for a bluewater-ready cruiser this 1983 Sabre 38 CB might just be the boat for you. She is ready for new adventures right now. Reason for selling is going bigger.

1985 Hans Christian 38T

Gig Harbor, Washington

Make Hans Christian

Category Cutter

The seller, a professional Captain, is willing to offer comprehensive training on the boat's systems and sailing techniques. All records have been kept with the boat and all systems are in working order. The boat bottom was peeled and had four coats of WEST Epoxy and Petit Barrier coat applied 8 years ago (Zero Blisters). New Dodger, new hatch, and helm covers. New four deep cycle battery bank was replaced this year along with an extra set of sails in good to excellent condition. Also comes with a new Italian-made sea drogue worth over $2,800. There are a few small jobs still left for the new owner like refreshing the cap-rail (bright work) and a little touch-up paint on the bowsprit. Once on board, you'll feel how solid this boat really is!! Stock #387943 TIMELESS ELEGANCE AND STYLE ARE ON FULL DISPLAY WITH THE SOLID BUILT 1985 HANS CHRISTIAN 38T - SELLER WILLING TO FINANCE WITH GOOD DOWN PAYMENT! Welcome aboard this spectacular 1985 Hans Christian 38T, fully equipped for cruising and more. Crafted by Harwood Ives and custom-built by Hans Christian Yachts, this classic vessel embodies the essence of sailing on the high seas. This 38-foot fiberglass hull beauty is a heavy displacement, double-ended cutter rig designed specifically for blue water adventures but makes for a fantastic liveaboard as well. This unique sailboat with a clipper bow and a long bowsprit, gives her a unique head-turning appearance. The solid reputation of the Hans Christian has a devoted owner base, this vessel stands out for its superior build quality and timeless design. Her stunning interior is a testament to the exquisite craftsmanship and is filled with beautiful Burmese Teak cabinets, cupboards, and drawers. Featuring two cabins and a quarter sea berth along with a spacious enclosed head that includes a private fully tiled shower. Navigate the entire cabin with a wide center aisle and for your taller crew, you'll enjoy 6 foot 6 inches of headroom. A large 'Butterfly Hatch' brings in the light above the U-shaped dinette settee just opposite a comfortable couch style settee to stretch out and relax. You'll enjoy the gourmet U-shaped galley boasting genuine marble countertops with ample room for meal prep, a fully functional propane 3 burner cooktop, oven, and topside fridge/freezer surrounded by those teak cupboards, cabinets, and drawers. A quote from the Seller, an experienced Captain in his own right - "Personally, I am most impressed with all of the self-tailing bronze winches that are placed all over the boat. I've never seen a boat with so much bronze jewelry. not even on another Hans. I can imagine what those winches alone much have cost when they were installed. As you probably know self-tailing winches are already ridiculously expensive but to have them in bronze is quite the unicorn. This true 'Blue Water Boat' is built like a tank and laden with teak and bronze jewelry!" The Hans Christian's Telstar keel with clipper bow and duel roller furling head sails make her a dream boat for liveaboards and seasoned sailors alike. This vessel is outfitted with modern amenities, including a Raytheon Auto Helm, Monitor Wind Vane, Magnum inverter, and solar panels (extra working panels included). The recent upgrades, such as fresh bottom paint and a new dodger, ensure optimal performance and comfort. Other great features include an electric windlass, microwave, diesel cabin heater, cruising sea drogue, spinnaker and an extra set of sails. This boat with the traditional V-berth fore-peak, could not be more of a dream boat for the liveaboard or the saltiest of hard-core cruising sailors. As mentioned - the Seller will consider Private Financing to get you started! Don't miss the opportunity to own a piece of sailing history - with reportedly only 5 of these unique vessels built in 1985. The perfect boat for exploring the Puget Sound or completing that dream of cruising the World! Reason for selling is extra inventory.

38foot pilothouse sailboat

Fort Pierce, Florida

Make Mariner

Model Pilothouse Cutter Rigged Sloop

Length 38.0

1980 Mariner Pilot House 38’ 12’ beamLocated in Fort Pierce FloridaFor Sale by owner $43,500 Rugged Cutter rigged with self tending boom with Pilot house! Great sailing and live aboard vessel with comfortable accommodations and layout. One of only eight New Hampshire built 38 Mariners built. Fast and seaworthy! Can be controlled from within the pilot house or the cockpit.Fuel DieselHule Material Fiberglass Draft 5 FeetEngine Perkins 4108 DieselEngine Hours 20This vessel has a recent refit over the last 2 years included in the list below . .replace bearings in roller furling new CQR anchor and Danforth 4 0 Lb. New anchor rode replace all halyards all wiring inspected replaced and re-fastened / secured as needed (old wiring not in use removed) this was done by a licensed electrician 4 new 6 volt batteries and cables etc.New CEN-Tech 1200 watt power inverter New plumbing hoses etc. for the toilet and waste disposal tankNew deck pump out for waste disposal New waste macerator and through hullNew fresh water plumbing installed in bathroom area sink and showerRebuilt hydraulic steering pumpNew seat cushion covers New hatch cover gasketsNew port window screens, glass, and gaskets Perkins 50 hp engine Rebuild all new cylinders, pistons,rings, main and rod bearings, crankshaft polished, cylinder head, Coast Guard approved hoses, new water pump and heat exchanger, new thermostat, new clutch plate, rebuilt starter, rebuilt sea strainer. New gauges tachometer, oil pressure, amp, water temp. depth sounderRebuild rudder New Stainless steel shaft and cutlass bearing and stuffing box seals.Recondition 16” dia. Maxie-Prop variable pitch propRecondition Racore water separator Recondition cock pit compassRebuilt Windless motor

LeComte Northeast 38 sailboat

Wilmington, North Carolina

Make Lecomte

Model Northeast 38

Category Cruiser Motorcycles

New Topsides Paint - New Deck Paint - New Yanmar DieselNew Cushions - New Tanks - Maxprop (Located Wilmington, NC)This LeComte Northeast 38 is a Bill Tripp designed for day sailing, racing and cruising. Oh yeah, she's a beautiful boat.The boat has undergone extensive renovations in recent years: She has new topsides paint, new deck paint (with very tastefully done non-skid), a Yanmar 3GM30 (only 280 hours!), MaxProp, roller furling, good sails, a brand-new dodger (not shown), and new Raymarine ST60 instruments. The interior has been mostly redone. The interior is bone dry and has never experienced any mold or rot. The original integral keel tank has been replaced with a custom tank and the sole refinished. The headliner is molded fiberglass (not cloth or wood) and has just received a new look.Importantly, she has a new set cushions that look like they just came from the canvas shop. There is double-tank propane locker, aluminum tanks, and new solenoid system, but is missing the 3 burner stove. She's just been out of the water recently, bottom is smooth and blister free, prop got anti-fouling treatment.You want to sail the boat right now? Go ahead, have fun. Do some racing. Enjoy her.You want to go cruising? Most of the renovations are complete, but there are just a few bits of woodworking that need to be finished up. And there is no GPS, no autopilot, no 110v electrical system or charger (just basic DC wiring). The DC cabin and running lights need attention, and some odds and ends of plumbing need to be taken care of. Any person with minimal handyman skills could get everything done in a week.There are a lot of "Clorex bottle" boats out there. This ain't one of them. Here are some more details:LOA: 38 ft, beam: 11 ft 0 in, Draft: 5 ft 6 in, displacement: 16000 lbsMotor: Yanmar 3gm30, 28hp, v-drive. Installed about 10 years ago, but run only 280 hours and is like new.Tanks: Fresh water- 50, fuel-35 (new poly tank), poop 35 gallons.Layout: V-berth forward, then head, pull-out settees to port and starboard, with additional berths above and behind them, no quarter berth, nav-station and galley, icebox (no reefer). Electronics: RayMarine ST60+ wind/depth/speed, Raymarine VHF with remote mic.Sails: Genoa on Harken furler, Spinnaker, mainsail, all goodOther canvas: Cockpit cushions, dodger, mainsail coverDisclaimer:I think I've covered everything, but it is always possible to misspeak, so you have the right to survey the boat before purchase to check stuff out on your own. The boat is offered for sale in other places, so I reserve the right to withdraw the listing, change the price, etc.

2010 Robertson & Caine Leopard 38' Catamaran Sailboat

Punta Gorda, Florida

Make Robertson & Caine

Model Leopard

Category Catamarans

2010 Robertson And Caine Leopard, LEOPARD 38 OWNERS VERSION Available now in Florida, United States, Leopard/ 3 cabin owner mode Designer: Morrelli and MelvinWhere built: Cape Town South Africa Length Overall: 37'6" Length at Waterline: 36 Beam: 19'9"Draft: 3'6" Displacement: 20,120 lbsWorking Sail Area: 991 sq ftENGINES: 2 MAKE: Yanmar, 3YM30HP: FUEL: Diesel LAST SERVICED: December 2015, every 200 hrs since new Port 1300 hrs Strb 1300 hrs CONTROLS: Morse DRIVE: Yanmar SD 20 Sail Drives PROP: Two bladed fixed STATEROOMS: 3 double, 1SINGLE BAR B Q: Propane stern rail grill HEADS: 2 Jabsco electric HAND BASIN: (2) w/ black Corian SHOWER: (2) plus transom H&C UPHOLSTERY: Beige leatherette in Saloon, Cherry wood BLINDS: Hatch blinds, side window shades and screens DESK: Study desk in starboard owners LOCKERS: Hanging lockers in all cabins STORAGE: Large storage areas under all berths PRIMARY ANCHOR: Delta 45lb with 230'chain SECONDARY ANCHOR: Fortress 45lb with 25 feet chain and 200 feet (61 meters) of rope WINDLASS: Quick 1000W with hand held remote ELECTRICAL: 12V/220V BATTERIES: (6) 3 house, 2 engine, 1 generator CAPACITY: 210Amp 4D house/27D each engine METHOD OF CHARGING: Alternators, shore, generator INVERTER/CHARGER: Outback FX inverter/charger with remote Outback MATE monitor ALTERNATOR: 2 x Motorola 80 amp SHORE POWER: 2 x 30Amp cords GENERATOR: Northern Lights 5Kw 200hrs FUEL TANKS: 2 CAPACITY: 92 Gallons WATER TANKS: 1 CAPACITY: 100 Gallons WATER HEATERS: (2) 220V or engine exchanger HOLDING TANKS: Two with overboard drains and deck pump out fittings DECK WASHDOWN: Salt and fresh GALLEY: Black Corian sink SAILS TYPE: Flat Top Main & Genoa by Quantum NAVIGATION: Raymarine Tridata ST 70 VHF: Raymarine 55 GPS: Raymarine E 120 AUTO PILOT: Raymarine SPX30 NAVIGATION LIGHTS: Yes RADIO/ CD: Sony CDXHS with speakers in cockpit and saloon DAVITS: Electric DINGHY: 10' Nautica RIB, W/15HP Yamaha 4 stroke outboard FENDERS: 6 LIFERAFT: Plastimo 6 person

Cradle for 38-42+ foot sailboat

Coeymans, New York

Make Hunter

Good, complete sailboat cradle from my 1994 Hunter Passage 42. I was told, originally it was around $3000 or more. So, get it cheap. There is no way I'll ship this, so buyers pick up only. Located in Coyemans Landing Marina near Albany, NY. There's forklift in marina to load cradle on your truck. Thanks. I just added few pictures and as you see legs can be folded for transportation. The base size is 8'x16'

Watervliet, New York

Good, complete sailboat cradle from my 1994 Hunter Passage 42. I was told, originally it was around $3000 or more. So, get it cheap. There is no way I'll ship this, so buyers pick up only. Located in Coyemans Landing Marina near Albany, NY. There's forklift in marina to load cradle on your truck. Thanks

1984 Sabre MK 1 38' Sailboat

Kent, New York

For sale 1984 Sabre MK 1 sailboat in excellent condition with a Westerbeke 33hp diesel engine. LOA 38' LWL31'2" Beam 11'6" Teak interior craftsmanship is very rich looking with a teak and holly sole.Lots of storage with the aft cabin layout. Electronics includes Raytheon R20X Raster scan radar, Raytheon Raystar 390 GPS, Raytheon Raychart 600 with map chips, Autohelm 4000 Autopilot etc. etc. with too many upgrades to list. Asking $67,000 OBO. Please call (585) 682-5599 if interested or for more information.

1969 HINCKLEY 38 RACER/CRUISER CUSTOM SAILBOAT

Glen Cove, New York

HINCKLEY 1969 38 RACER/CRUISER CUSTOM SAILBOAT - ORIGINAL OWNER!! Hinckley 38 was designed as a racer/cruiser. She is on the hard under shrinkwwrap in Glen Cove, New York. Vessel is fiberglass w balsa core construction. There is a custom workiing trim tab on the aft edge of the keel, for additional lift to windward. LOA: 37.6 LWL: 27.7 Beam: 10.6 Draft: 5.9 Displacement: 17.500 Ballast: 6,000 Headroom: 6.2 Fresh Water Tanks: 2 ea 60 gallons Fuel Tanks: 40 gallon Monel diesel Engine: Rebuilt Westerbeke 40 hp, w only 10 hours!! The hull was recently rebuilt awl-gripped in a medium blue (see photos). 40 hp, Westerbeke diesel engine was recently rebuilt w only 10 hours. Electronics: Garmin GPS, speed and depth and vhf radio. No auto pilot. There is hot and cold running water, dodger and bimini, and shower in the head. Boat sleeps six in two cabins. Galley has an alcohol Hiller three

Sailboat 38' Bruce Roberts Sloop Full Live-a-Board

Palatka, Florida

Make Bruce Roberts

You must have a good feedback score to bid. Some One with zero feedback bid and never paid. Wasted my time Then another bidder won and decided after that they could not get a slip where they lived and cancelled the sale. PRICE REDUCED. Was $22,500 NOW $12,500 THIS BOAT IS WORTH TWICE THE ASKING PRICE. TIRED OF REALY FOOLISH QUESTIONS PLEASE READ FAQ AT END OF LISTING AND NO LOWBALL OFFERS. BUY IT NOW BEFORE ITS GONE I moved to Colorado so I can no longer care for it. Don't want to keep paying slip fees so my lose is your gain. This boat has lots of character, Was originally built in South Africa, Sailed to the USA and for 20 years the prior owner put his life into making this boat an amazing work of art. Fully loaded for live-a-board amazing amounts of rigging, Roller Jib, main sail ONE ARM SAILING My wife and I lived on it for over a year. 7-foot v-birth, DC ice box head, Dry and wet flush, Solar panels 240Watt total. Complete Ac and DC electric systems. sound system, Auto Pilot, GPS, depth Sounder, weather station, Two radios and more. Small Dinghy engine included. 5HP, Small Television. Isuzu diesel engine 52 HP in great shape, two 80 Gallon Tanks, Two fresh water storage tanks,brand new starter, new batteries, (4) and there is an almost compete second engine in parts so you have almost spare parts for everything. Full Hull, 4.7 Draft. 11 foot beam .Boat is in a marina in Palatka Florida. IN THE WATER NOW Ready to Sail out or keep there in the slip. Slip rent is only about $250.00 if you decide to keep there long term or short term. $100 live a board fee This is a 38' Bruce Roberts (Technically 37.6) Fiberglass hull all hand built, great woodwork inside and very roomy. We were very comfortable for over a year Fully Titled and registered. Can be US Coast Guard Documented if you desire. By the Way this boat can comfortably circumnavigate the globe if your adventurous. Buyer will need to either rent slip at marina or sail it out. Dont pass up this opportunity to own a one of kind Bruce Roberts Sloop. FAQ's There is no water maker Single berth V-berth typeOne headNo shower but can be added to head as there is already a water pump to get rid of shower waterPrior owner passed away and I don't have a log book with engine hours but it runs great so I don't know the hours and there is no meterBurns 1/2 gal per hour at about 10-12 knotsFuel capacity is 160 gal. 2-80sTook the pictures 6 months ago before I leftYes there is a rudder it just turned in the picture where you can't really it at that angleYes it's ready to sail!Yes it's in the water now Yes it's 1981 so it not all "brand new"The marina has showers and toilets and free internet and yes it nice there.No it's not listed on other sitesNo I don't have more pictureNo I don't want your old truck in trade.Sorry no payment plans Friend starts the engine every week to keep it in good running shapeBoat is being cared for by other live a boards at the marina Boat is at the Boathouse Marina on River St in Palatka FL. Text me at 907-378 nine one one five Jack

Catalina 320 Sailboat 32

San Diego, California

Category Sloop Sailboats

Length 32.0

1994 Catalina 320. This well priced, nice example is located at the Mission Bay Yacht Club. The 320 is a fast comfortable cruiser with lots of room. It is a modern design with a huge swim step, complete with hot/cold shower, and a step-through transom. The cockpit easily seats 10 with elevated aft perch seats. There is a queen size bed in the aft stateroom (with locking door), an ample 2 person v-berth forward with door and removable wall panels, convertible dining table sleeps two, and a berth to port sleeps one more. The galley includes a double sink with water filter, 2-burner stove, and a great working gimbled oven. The fridge is very large with 2 top-loading doors and a freezer which keeps items well frozen. There is a microwave and much storage.The head is to starboard. There is plenty of room to shower and change with large mirror. The toilet is new. There are two fresh water holding tanks, and a waste holding tank with macerator pump. The 2 4D house batteries are brand new, and there are two deep cycle starting batteries.The Clarion stereo is also new with CD player, bluetooth, charging USB cable, capable of playing pandora, flash drives, etc. and includes a remote control operable from the cockpit. Electronics include; main VHF with a remote handheld (works up to 50' away), Garmin GPS/Chartplotter, speed/depth, auto pilot with remote control, and Raymarine radar. All manuals are on board. The invertor/charger is upgraded and newer. The cockpit built-in propane tank has an accessory line for a BBQ. The dodger/ windows are a few years new. The mast can be lowered (tabernacled) to pass under low bridges. (This is about an $8000 upgrade)All lines lead to the cockpit. The jib is roller furled. The main is fully battened and has lazy jacks to keep the it tidy when lowered. There is a colorful asymmetrical spinnaker, and easily deployed pole. The anchor and rode fit nicely in the ample anchor locker. There is a windlass to help with the anchor.The bottom is cleaned regularly. The engine was professionally serviced in July (oil/filter change, tranny oil, both fuel filters and raw water impeller replaced). The diesel engine is strong with just 1263 hours. It cruises under power at about 7 knots and consumes less than a gallon of fuel an hour.We sail every year to Catalina Island (just returned with our family of four, from a two week trip) and thoroughly enjoy the boat, but we have bought a larger boat with partners and are ready to sell.You will find US Coast Guard Documented "El Encanto" proven, well kept, and ready to go. Don't forget- lots of fun!I can show it most anytime. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Catalina 27 28 30 32 320 34 36 38 380 40 42 Hunter

Crusing Catamaran Sailboat

Slidell, Louisiana

Make Fountaine Pajot

Length 38.5

Cha Ching is a very well maintained and upgraded cruising catamaran. She sails fast and points to wind better than most catamarans. The large centrally located helm station allows for visibility at all four corners of the vessel, and features two entrances to the salon. The galley up configuration and ample 6 seat dining table makes entertaining fun for everyone. This fine vessel is offered at $165,000, which is significantly less than the last appraised value (appraisal available upon request). Owner has purchased a new catamaran and is motivated to sell. Bring all offers! Reliable low cost delivery of vessel by licensed captain available. DIMENSIONS: LOA- 38.5 ft. BEAM- 21 ft. DRAFT- 4’2 MAST HEIGHT- 58.5 ft. MANUFACTURER: Fountaine Pajot 1990, Model- Fiji NUMBER OF CABINS: 4 (2 Heads with showers) TANKAGE: Fuel- 55 gallons upgraded stainless tanks, Water- 120 gallons main tank, 45 gallons reserve (aluminum). Two holding tanks with macerator pumps (one each hull). ENGINES: 2 Inboard Diesel- Volvo Penta, Model- 2002 Approximately 1500 hours each TENDER: 12 foot AB hard bottom inflatable with 15 HP Evinrude (2 stroke) ELECTRONICS: All new Garmin Electronics in 2014 including Garmin 546-S Chart Plotter with blue chart chips, GMI-10 (one at nav station and 3 at helm), GHC 10 autopilot with GHC10 wireless remote, Standard Horizon VHF with DSC connected to GPS at nav station, with Ram 3 microphone at helm, ICOM M802 Single Sideband Radio, JRC 1500 MK II Radar, West Marine Submersible hand held VHF radio, Pioneer DH 2200 UB with Ipod and Iphone connectivity. MECHANICAL/ELECTRICAL: Pressurized hot and cold water to heads and galley. Hot water produced from heat exchanger on Stbd. Engine. Hot and cold shower on transom at cockpit. Fully air conditioned with Cruiseair STX-16 (16,000 BTU reverse cycle unit new in 2012) and one 6000 BTU unit in each hull. House Batteries- 8- 6 volt golf cart batteries new in 2015, and one starting battery 12v new in 2015. All LED nav lights installed 2014. Halogen salon lights replaced with LED lights, courtesy rope lights for “mood lighting”. 2 automatic and manual electric bilge pumps, one manual bilge pump in cockpit. 6 solar panels mounted on bimini with charge controller, Kiss wind generator on davits. Set up for water maker under Stb. forward berth with electrical and plumbing connections installed. New Barber Adler refrigerator (new compressor installed 2015) and Engle refrigerator/freezer in Port forward cabin. New 2000 watt charger inverter installed in 2014 with AC outlets in each cabin, head, galley, and nav station. ENO brand Propane 3 burner stove and propane grill at transom. Yamaha 3200 EFI gas generator powers AC system. DECK AND SAILING EQUIPMENT: Fractional rig aluminum Z-Spar mast and boom, with 3 Lewmar winches at mast base. Mainsail new in 2010 (heavy cruising main with 3 reefing positions). Boom vang installed 2010. Genoa on roller reefing with UV protective canvass and padeyes for downwind sailing. 2 large Lewmar 45 winches at cockpit and 2 smaller Lewmar winches for traveler. 65 lb. CQR anchor on crossbeam roller with 200 foot 5/8” chain rhode. Goiot electric windlass. Large plow anchor with 100’ chain and rope rhode, and one mud anchor. 6 aluminum mooring cleats. Crossbeam reinforced and compression post added in 2012. Dinghy on stainless davits with stainless steel chain, anchor, etc. Fully enclosed cockpit with custom canvass enclosure that allows for operation of vessel while deployed (with spare set of new forward dodger windows) ADDITONAL NOTES: This vessel has sailed all over the Caribbean and proven herself more than capable for longer offshore bluewater cruising. The boat is equipped with spares like fresh water pump, engine parts (alternator and starter motor, impellers, gaskets, relays, etc.). Other amenities like custom made sunscreen that fits over the entire bow and salon of vessel is included. The vessel recently had all bottom paint removed by soda blasting and new epoxy barrier coat installed along with new Trinidad SR bottom paint (high copper content). The large roomy cockpit comes equipped with 2 large storage lockers, and newly varnished teak benches and drain boards. Aft of the cockpit is a 2 foot varnished teak dinghy dock with plenty of room for generator, large cooler and space for shower and rinsing snorkel equipment. All bilges were sanded and repainted in 2014. New holding tanks and macerator pumps installed 2015. The boat comes with a newly certified 6 person valise life raft which was purchased in 2012. You must see this vessel in person to fully appreciate the level of maintenance and upgrades that have been done to this boat. She is truly ready to sail away.

ENDEAVOUR 33 SAILBOAT 1984

Rome, New York

Classic, fast shoal draft cruiser with rich teak interior, AC and heat, and lots of extras. Spacious salon. If you are in the market for your first family sailboat or looking for a vessel to explore the coastal US, then you need to see this sturdy 1984 Endeavour sailboat. Traditional layout, comfortable and ready to explore. Good setup for the solo sailor. She would also make a very nice live aboard! Current yard rent paid until October 2014. Family illness forces sale. SPECIFICATIONS LOA: 32' 7" LWL: 27' 6" Beam: 11' 6" Draft: 4' 6" Displ.: 11,350 lbs. Ballast: 4,600 lbs. enclosed lead Mast Height above DWL: 48' 9" Rigging: Masthead Sloop Sail Area: 539.5 sq. ft. Main Sail Area: 228.15 sq. ft. Fore Sail Area: (100%) 310.5 sq. ft. SA/D: 17.09 B/D: 40.50 % D/L: 244 Hull Speed: 7.3 knots PHRF - Northeast: 156 Designer: Bruce Kelley Fuel Capacity: 36 gallons Fresh Water Capacity: Approx. 56 gallons Holding Tank: 12.5 gallonsACCOMMODATIONS Spacious Saloon with beautiful solid teak doors and cabinetry throughout. Traditional layout in good condition. V-Berth forward. Salon features L-shaped port settee (converts to double) with a fold away table and starboard bench settee. Single quarter berth & navigation table to port. Galley to starboard. · Nav. Station: Flip Top chart table at forward edge of Quarter berth, three drawers, Rolled chart storage · Head: Located aft of the master to port with vanity, holding tank, head, sun shower, bulkhead mirror, three lockers, drawer, fiddled shelf storage and screened port · Teak bulkhead mounted table with hinged extension and bookshelf/cabinet behind. · Blue upholstered settees/berths in good shape · Generous lighting throughout. TV/FM coaxial cable wiring at shelf over hanging locker · Berths: 6 · Headroom: 6' 2" ENGINE & MECHANICAL · Yanmar 3GM30F Diesel, fresh water cooled, professionally and regularly maintained. · Engine hours: 1,625. · Racor fuel filter · Dripless stuffing box · 3-blade bronze prop, serviced · 36 gallon, welded aluminum fuel oil tank HULL & DECK · Solid KlegeCell foam core decks (no balsa to rot), no soft spots anywhere. No hull blisters. · Skeg mounted rudder for directional stability and strength · Anchor roller at bow · Bruce anchor w/ chain, 200’ 5/8” rode in deep bow locker, excellent condition · Secondary Danforth anchor with chain & rode · Teak hand rails · Anodized aluminum toe rails · Propane deck locker, stbd., with aluminum tank, manual & electric shut-off · West Marine propane kettle grill and canvas cover-like new · Outboard motor mount · Custom foam cockpit cushions · S/S swim ladder · Boarding gates P & S · Fenders & dock lines · Cockpit Speakers · Companionway teak boards, refinished, stow in stbd. lazarette storage pockets. · Companionway swing doors, removable (need repair HELM · Edson pedestal w/38" SS destroyer wheel with 2 instrument pods · 5” Danforth compass in SS hood · Teak folding cockpit table · Removable Edson teak drink caddy SAFETY · Type III PFD's · LifeSling · CO Monitor · Fire Extinguishers · Flare kit · 12V Bilge Pump · Manual bilge pump · First Aid Kit SALON · Spacious interior layout with large fold-out table (shelves behind) · Abundant drawer and locker storage throughout. · 10 opening ports & two large overhead hatches · Teak & holly sole in good condition · Several 12v lighting fixtures · 12 volt fan · 1 Wood framed companionway screen · 1 Wood framed hatch screen GALLEY · SS Galley Maid propane stove and oven · Large icebox with shelves · Adler Barbour 12V refrigeration · SS Sink with H/C pressure water · Microwave oven · Flo-Jet 12 Volt electric water pump, demand type with an accumulator tank. · Whale foot operated water pump in the galley (needs mounting). · Beautiful solid teak stove-top/cutting board with green Silestone insert, with storage slot · Built-in plate and utensil storage · Wine glass rack · Cookware and tableware V-BERTH · V-berth 6'6" · 12 V fan & Solar powered vent fan in hatch · 1 Wood framed Hatch screen · 2 drawers, 2 side shelves & cabinet HEAD · Enclosed head with shower & sump pump · SS sink with hot & cold pressure water · Teak cabinets and storage · Holding tank monitor · Holding Tank: 12.5 gallons with Y-valve and pump-out ELECTRONICS · Autohelm with hand-held remote · West Marine VHF580 Radio · Depth Sounder · Knot meter · Aiwa 40 watt Stereo FM/AM/Aux input with 2 interior KLH speakers and 2 cockpit speakers · Mast-mounted TV-FM antenna · Mast-top VHF antenna ELECTRICAL · 12,000 BTU CruisAir Air conditioning / heating · Breaker Panel: 12 volt DC; 110 volt AC · 4 Batteries (2-12V, 2-6V) · Battery isolator · Xantrex 40Watt multistage battery charger · 110 volt 30A Ship-to-shore cable - 50 ft. · Seaward SS water heater, 6 gallon, 115 VAC/ heat exchanger. · 2 Mast-mounted P&S deck lights · Chart table gooseneck light - red · Brinkman Q-Beam 12V Spotlight, 400,000 CP CANVAS · Two-part full-deck awning/sun-shade (a $1,400 item) · Bimini on SS frame · Helm cover · Sail Cover · Winch covers · SS dodger frame-no canvas STANDING RIGGING · Hood roller furling on head stay · SS wire standing rigging & chain plates · Four (4) each port & stbd. shrouds · Keel-stepped aluminum spar-Exc. Cond. RUNNING RIGGING · Two (2) Lewmar No. 43 two speed self-tailing primary winches w/covers. · Two (2) Lewmar No. 8 single speed mast mount halyard winches. · 2 winch handles · Harken 4:1 ball-bearing mid-boom mainsheet traveler, cabin mounted · Hardware in place / sail cover designed for lazy-jack system. Needs lines. · Genoa tracks with twin-sheet Schaeffer blocks, port and stbd. · Dacron braid sheets · Dacron braid halyards, internal & external, outhaul & topping lift · Aft turning (cheek) blocks port & stbd. SAILS · Footless main sail - new and unused · Original main sail · Genoa head sail - roller furling with UV stripe FRESH WATER TANKS · Polypropylene tank mounted below the stbd. settee, 36 gallons · Polypropylene tank located under port side aft quarter berth, est. 20 gallons, w/ separate deck fillSPARES / EXTRAS / OTHER · Includes 5 Hostar stackable jack stands for off-season layup ($1,000 value) · 4 – 10”x10”x2’ Hickory staging blocks · New Beckson port screens · Tool set in drawer · Hatch WindScoop for ventilation · Stern flagstaff & flag · All manuals, incl. Yanmar · 115VAC Vacuum cleaner · New extra odor-resistant hose for sanitary plumbing · Deck brush, cabin brush and dust pan · Boat hook · Custom compact winter cover scaffolding-ready for tarp (shown in photos) · V-belts, engine hoses, hardware, etc. RECENT UPGRADES INCLUDE · Brand new main sail - never used · Epoxy hull re-faring · Cushions covers removed, cleaned & repaired · Compass serviced · Holding tank seal maintenance, cleanout and sanitizing · New shaft zinc · Bottom paint (9/2014) · Hull polish & wax (9/2014) Work Needed: Woodwork around forward port lights in main salon needs to be repaired/replaced. Bright work: hand rails, cockpit table and taffrailNew price reflects work needed on rudder. Recent repair did not work to seal it and there is water inside. SS rudder post is good and rudder seems solid, is probably serviceable but may ultimately need better repair or replacement. Price: US $ 19,500Located in Rome, NY on the Erie Canal (accessible to Lake Champlain, the Atlantic Ocean or the Great Lakes). This vessel is sold AS IS, WHERE IS.Not included / Negotiable: 8.5' Zodiac/West Marine dinghy, RU260, with oars, pump, bag, repair kit, plus 3.3 hp Mercury outboard - excellent. $950New-in-box Lewmar 1000 Pro-Series 12V Windlass, Stainless Steel. $700Pair (2) of new Lewmar Ocean Series 16CST Self-Tailing Winches, Chromed Bronze. $950 Call: 315-733-7305 (H) Text: 315-368-4939 (C) Email: [email protected] Endeavour 33: http://www.endeavourowners.com/boats/e33/e33brochure.pdf http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1878 http://sailboatdata.com/view_builder.asp?builder_id=27 http://sailboatdata.com/view_designer.asp?designer_id=162 Zodiac/WM RU-260 Inflatable “Roll-Up” Dinghy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0FSSffq5zM http://www.inriodulce.com/lostandfound/RU260.html Mercury 3.3 hp Outboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLY-tuSCkK4 http://www.mercury-marine.eu/mercury/en/Products/Products.aspx?Model=TwoStroke%203.3 Lewmar Winch 16CST: http://lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8150&lid=25361

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Morgan 38/382

Charlie morgan's hurrah becomes ted brewer's success story becomes today's pseudo-classic..

We receive many requests from readers to review certain boats. Almost without exception, the requests come from owners of the boat suggested. Few boats have been the object of more requests than the venerable Morgan 38. At first blush, it is difficult to determine which Morgan 38 we ought to address, as two distinct designs were built since the first one appeared 22 years ago. After some thought, we decided to trace the history of both as best we could, including also the Morgan 382, 383 and 384.

The Morgan 38 was designed in 1969 by Charlie Morgan. He had founded Morgan Yacht Company in St. Petersburg, Florida, in 1965. The Morgan 34 was his first production model. A hometown boy, he had made a name for himself in the 1960 and 1961 Southern Ocean Racing Conference (SORC), winning with a boat of his own design called Paper Tiger . While not a formally trained naval architect, Morgan demonstrated his skill with a variety of designs. Many of these were keel/centerboard models, owing to the shoalness of Florida waters. Seventy-nine were built before production halted in 1971.

In 1977, the Morgan 382 was introduced, designed by Ted Brewer, Jack Corey and the Morgan Design Team. According to Brewer, the boat was loosely based on the Nelson/Marek-designed Morgan 36 IOR One Ton. The most obvious difference between the 38 and 382 was the elimination of the centerboard and the addition of a cruising fin keel (NACA 64 012 foil) with skeg-mounted rudder. They are two completely different designs from two different eras in yacht design.

In 1980, the 382 was given a taller rig and called the 383. About 1983 the boat underwent other subtle changes, now called the Morgan 384. The rudder was enlarged and the interior modified. In its three versions, the Brewer model registered about 500 sales.

The company changed ownership several times during this period. It went public in 1968, was later bought by Beatrice Foods and then Thor Industries. Presently it is owned by Catalina Yachts, who built just 24 38s (three were kits) before discontinuing production in 1986.

The first Morgan 38 was a development of the highly successful 34, which Morgan called a “beamy, keelcenterboard, CCA (Cruising Club of America)-style of yacht. We had a good thing going and didn’t want to deviate; we found little interest in those days in keel boats. Centerboards have their own sorts of problems, but there’s an awful lot of thin water in the world, and safe refuge and quiet anchorages are mostly in shoal water.”

The boat has a long, shoal keel drawing just 3′ 9″ with the board up. The rudder is attached and there is an aperture for the propeller. “Beamy,” in 1969, meant 11 feet. The waterline was fairly short at 28 feet, but the overhangs give the hull a very balanced and pleasing profile. The stern is pure Charlie Morgan—a finely proportioned shape that is neither too big nor too small. In profile, the angle between the stern (which interestingly is a continuation of the line of the backstay) and the counter is nearly 90 degrees. It’s a trademark look.

Sloop and yawl rigs were offered, which was typical of CCA designs. The rig has a lower aspect ratio (the proportion of the hoist to the foot of the mainsail) than later designs, including the Brewer-designed 382. Yet this is a very wholesome rig for cruising. Owners responding to our questionnaire said the boat balances very well.

Owners of the 382 and subsequent permutations seemed less pleased. They didn’t rate balance as highly, noting most frequently the difficulty in tracking (keeping the boat on a straight course) when sailing off the wind (not uncommon with beamy fin keel designs; it’s a trade-off with speed, pointing ability and maneuverability). Others said that they raked their masts forward to improve balance. One thought the problem was caused because the rudder was slightly undersized. Still, these owners liked the way their boats sail.

The rig, of course, isn’t the only difference between the Morgan and Brewer designs. The latter has a foot wider beam—12 feet—and a longer waterline. Two keels were offered, the standard five-foot draft and an optional deep keel of six feet. Displacement jumped a thousand pounds to 17,000 despite a reduction in ballast from 7,500 pounds to 6,600 pounds. Centerboard boats, naturally, require more ballast because it isn’t placed as low as it is in a deep fin keel boat.

The look of the 382 is much more contemporary. The rake of the bow is straighter, as is the counter, which is shorter than the original 38 as well. Freeboard is higher and the windows in the main cabin are squared off for a crisper appearance.

Construction

The hulls of the early 38s were built of solid fiberglass and the decks of sandwich construction. Some 382 hulls were cored, others not. A variety of core materials were used, mostly Airex foam. The lamination schedule was your basic mat and woven roving, with Coremat added as a veil cloth to prevent printthrough.

Both designs have internal lead ballast, sealed on top with fiberglass.

The early 382s did not have the aft bulkhead in the head fiberglassed to the hull, which resulted in the mast pushing the keel down. All boats “work” under load, and bulkheads bonded to the hull are essential to a stiff structure. Anyone who has a boat in which major load-bearing bulkheads are not attached to the hull should do so before going offshore. To its credit, the company launched a major recall program.

The owners of all Morgan 38s, as a group, note the strength of the boat. One said he hit a rock at 6 ½ knots and suffered only minor damage. Very few problems were mentioned. The owner of a 1981 model, however, said he “drilled through hull at waterline and was surprised at thinness of glass on either side of the Airex: 1/8” inside, 1/16″ outside.” With the stiffness that sandwich construction provides, not as much glass is required; still, protection from collision and abrasion would recommend greater thickness outside. Brewer, incidentally, discounted the report.

Interestingly, Hetron-brand fire-retardant resin was used for a time, prior to 1984; if you recall, this was blamed for the many cases of reported blistering on the early Valiant 40s. About half of the 382 owners responding to our surveys reported some blistering, none serious.

The attached rudder of the early 38 is stronger than the skeg-mounted rudder of later models. But we do prefer the skeg configuration to a spade rudder, at least for cruising. A problem with skegs, however, is the difficulty in attaching them strongly to the hull. One owner said his was damaged in a collision with a humpback whale, but that is hardly normal usage!

Several owners of later models commented that the mast was a “utility pole,” recommending a custom tapered spar for those inclined to bear the expense.

Other problems reported in our survey were only minor and were corrected by the company. In fact, owners were nearly unanimous in their praise for Morgan Yachts’ customer service.

The layout of the Morgan 38 is quite conventional and workable. In both incarnations there are Vberths forward, private head with shower (separate enclosure in the 382), dinette in main cabin with settee, galley aft in the port quarter area and nav station with quarter berth opposite to starboard. Specifications for the first 38s included “attractive wood-grained mica bulkhead paneling, with oiled American walnut trim.” This was a popular treatment in the 1960s, and practical, but often done to excess. By the 1980s, fake teak didn’t play so well. Owners wanted real wood, and that’s what they got in the 382.

Owners of early 38s complained of poor ventilation (“I added six opening ports, and would like an additional center cabin hatch,” wrote one), short Vberths (“Could be 4″ longer, but I’m 6′ 2.””), and more closet space (from a live-aboard).

Owners of later models mentioned the need for a larger forward hatch to get sails through, a hatch over the galley, larger cockpit scuppers, and Dorade vents.

(Teak Dorade boxes were added on the 384.) They complained of not enough footroom in the V-berths and poor location of the main traveler in the cockpit. (The traveler was moved to the cabinhouse top on the 384.)

Despite these minuses, most owners cite the volume of the interior and many stowage compartments as major reasons for their satisfaction with the boat.

Performance Under Sail

As implied in our comments on balance in the “Design” section of this review, the centerboard 38 sailed beautifully. She is dry and seakindly, stable and relatively fast for her generation. Its PHRF rating ranges from 145 to about 150. The yawl rig is probably not as fast as the sloop, but for the cruising couple, the mizzen sail gives the skipper another means of balancing the boat, as well as a means to fly more sail when reaching if he’s prepared to fuss with a staysail.

The 382 rates between 128 and 150, about 137 on average. The Morgan 383 and 384, which are grouped together, rate a mite lower at 135, on average.

It is not surprising that Brewer’s redesign is faster, even though it’s 1,000-2,000 pounds heavier. This is due to it’s deeper fin and higher aspect rig with the ability to carry larger headsails. There is also less wetted surface. Performance Under Power

The centerboard 38 was powered by the seemingly ageless Atomic Four gasoline engine, though a Perkins 4-107 or Westerbeke 4-107 was available at extra cost ($1,940 in 1969). The early 38s cruise at about 6 ½ knots.

A first-generation Yanmar—the 3QM30—was used on some 382s, and as owners of those engines know, they tend to be noisy and vibrate a great deal. Yanmar engines improved a great deal after the manufacturer redesigned and retooled the entire line. But the most common powerplant was the magnificent 50-horsepower Perkins 4-108. If we were looking for a Morgan 38 to purchase, we’d certainly lean toward one with this engine.

Both designs handle reasonably well under power, as well as most sailboats do, meaning that backing down with a two-blade prop is a necessarily cautious procedure.

A number of owners recommend changing to a three-blade prop, but that will affect sailing performance. One should examine his sailing style closely before making the move.

The Morgan 38, in any incarnation, is a handsome boat that sails well and is built strong enough for most people’s purposes. Some may pause before taking a centerboard boat far offshore, but it has certainly been done—recall, if you will, Carleton Mitchell’s hugely successful racer Finnisterre .

Both centerboard and fin keel versions seem to us to have advantages and disadvantages that are essentially tradeoffs.

On the one hand, we like an attached rudder for cruising, as it provides the best protection from collision with logs and other hard objects. On the other, we recognize the importance of placing ballast low, as in the fin keel version, and we appreciate

Brewer for giving a nice slope to its leading edge so that damage from hitting logs will be minimized. Brewer said that a 382 that passes survey is capable of cruising just about anywhere. “They’ve crossed oceans,” he said.

To our eye, we admit to being fond of the CCA designs with low freeboard and graceful sheer lines. The yawl is a versatile rig that is especially attractive, though it does require more in the way of tuning and maintenance.

An early Morgan 38, in good condition, should sell in the high 20s. Expect to pay a thousand or so more for the yawl. For sellers, considering that in 1969 the base price of the boat was $22,995, that’s not a bad return on investment.

Fifteen years later the price had jumped to $84,995 (1984 model). Those boats today are advertised in the mid to high 60s, and occasionally the low 70s. (What anyone is actually getting for these days is another matter entirely).

Considering the changes in the economy, that’s still not bad performance. What it means most to the prospective buyer is that the Morgan 38 and 382 are popular, much admired boats that should, we expect, hold their value as well as or better than most others.

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

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Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

From BlueWaterBoats.org :

The Ingrid 38 from the pen of William Atkin is a heavy displacement blue water ketch derived from Colin Archer’s famous double ender designs, which in turn were inspired by Viking boats renowned for their heavy weather characteristics. Perhaps Atkin sums it up by saying it’s “the kind of boat that behaves herself in rough water and can be depended upon to sail herself”. (To that part we do hear frequent mentions of the superb one-finger-on-tiller tracking and a comfortable ride.)

With her old world style she’s a good looking boat with a sheer line reminiscent of the Crealock’s famous Westsail 32 . Her seaworthiness is there to see in her full keel, heavy displacement and overbuilt construction. Her hull is heavily hand laid in fiberglass, there’s robust outboard chainplates and an outboard rudder protected by extra fiberglass and a large bronze shoe casting should she scrub the bottom.

Atkin’s main rework on the Ingrid 38 from Archer’s original design was a finer entry on the bow which ‘cushions’ her landing off the waves. Below the waterline she has a long full keel with deep v-sections forward keeping her stable in the rough. The ballast is encapsulated and is distributed from bow to stern, this helps her to avoid the pitching motion familiar to fin-keel sailors. Rounding this off, there’s plenty of flotation fore and aft which helps keep her dry.

The tradeoff heavy displacement and ultimate stability is usually in speed, the Ingrid 38 is not considered fast. Surprisingly she’s known to sail pretty well in light airs, owners reporting she’ll do half the wind speed up to 8 knots of wind. However, she’s a boat that comes into her own in heavier seas. By the numbers, her hull speed works out at 7.2 knots but she’ll more often manage a consistent 6 knots while cruising. The ketch rig gives plenty of options on all points of sail and she’s an easy boat to single-hand.

Around 1934 American naval architect William Atkin was bombarded with demands for a larger ketch-rigged version of the Thistle 31, a double-ender which he had recently released plans for. Atkin took the lines of Archer’s design and drew the plans for the Ingrid 38.

The first Ingrid 38s were privately built from wood, steel and cement from the plans, but it wasn’t until 1971 that production began in fiberglass by Blue Water Boats Inc (ironically located in a town called Woodinville in WA). The plug and mold for the first Ingrid was built by two Seattle sailors James Musser and Donald J. Pitblado working together, as the story goes, in a commercial chicken coop. James Musser’s original plan was to build Ingrid hull#1 and embark on a Pacific Ocean cruise but others were so impressed by his Ingrid Sandaldust  that they requested similar hulls from the mold. From this demand Blue Water Boats Inc. was born. His co-worker Donald J. Pitblado went on to become the owner of Ingrid hull #2 Donna Marie

In 1973 the company took on Jerry Husted, an experienced Puget Sound sailor, as an equal partner which allowed Musser and his wife to sailed off in  Sandaldust to live their Pacific dream. By 1974 Husted bought the balance of the shares and production of the Ingrid continued until about 1985 when the molds and patterns were sold off and were stored for a long time in Graham, WA. Around 1997-98 the molds were purchased by Bill Ingerson and he shifted them back to Woodinville in 2000 . Ingerson tried to get a few commitments for hulls but never got much interest at todays production costs.

The Ingrid 38 was produced at the rate of one a month for 10-12 years and there are thought to be around 143 of these boats in existence as well as those constructed from other materials. Many boats were bought as hull and deck kit sets from Blue Water Boats and finished by their owners to a variety of standards and configurations (including using cutter rigs).

A variation on the Ingrid 38 exists in the form the Alajuela 38 , her hull being a close derivative of the Ingrid, built to a very high standard and configured with a cutter rig.

Buyers Notes

The Ingrid 38 is no longer in production but there are usually several available on the used boat market, mainly in the US. Current asking prices are around $35k – $79k USD. Prospective owners are recommended to contact the Ingrid 38 owners group on yahoo.com for advice or information (link below).

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                              , “twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. so throw off the bowlines. sail away from the safe harbor. catch the trade winds in your sails. explore. dream. discover.”    sarah francis brown.

SV Harmony II, Northstar 38, North Channel Regatta 2018 

The Hughes 38 is a fine example of the work done by the premiere yacht designer of the twentieth century – Olin Stephens.   Along with his brother Rod Stephens,  Olin Stephens designed many of the most famous and successful yachts of the 20th century.

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The Hughes 38 was designed to the Cruising Club of America (CCA) Rule by Sparkman & Stephans (design #1903) and built by Hughes Boat Works of Ontario, Canada.  Evidence of this CCA heritage can be seen in the large overhangs and narrow beam.  The design also shows elements of later era (IOR) ideas in the separated rudder and fin keel, reverse transom and large foretriangle.  The design can therefore  be considered a transition between the  CCA and IOR eras.

SV Marita     (This one is one of a kind  – does she have a Hinckley 38 deck?)

Hughes Boat Works did such quality work that Hinckley Yachts purchased finished hulls  from Hughes  to produce the Hinckley 38.   Hughes built 256  H38s between 1967 to 1981, through several changes of ownership.For a period of time in the 70’s the company was called Northstar Yachts and S&S design #1903 was called the Northstar 38.

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Hughes Boat Works was one of the largest production boatbuilders for a number of years in the 1970s. The company was started by Howard Hughes (no relation to the famous aviator) and his brother Peter Hughes.

Hughes 38 owners have consistently reported excellent handling and balance on all points of sail.  They are excellent sea boats in chop and high winds and are known as very weatherly, pulling hard up to 30 degrees off the wind.  SV Wildcard, previously owned by Fatty Goodlander of Cruising World fame, has circumnavigated twice, surviving many storms along the way.

SV Wildcard

Some Hughes 38s are now approaching fifty years old, as they were made from 1967 to 1981.  As is to be expected with aging yachts, some are in need of restoration, while others are still in fine sailing shape, due to the excellent construction of the hull by the Hughes brothers and regular maintenance. Various owners have over the years made modifications to their H38s, some installing diesels in place of the Atomic 4.  It would be hard to find a better value in a great yacht design than a well cared for Hughes 38.

SV Water Lily

Hughes 38 Owners Group is an attempt to be a comprehensive resource of information for the little known but superb alongshore or offshore yacht, the Hughes 38.  If you have information that would be of help to owners of Hughes 38s, please feel free to contact us.

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I love the knowledge on your website. thnx!.

Its been my pleasure to share my research with you. May i ask: what is your interest in the Hughes 38? blessings jon

I just found your site. I have a 1972 Hughes 38 MKII and I love it. In any event you have a great site and I will enjoy it. Would you have any info regarding the torque settings for keel bolts on this boat I can’t seem to find them anywhere. I am currently doing some work before launch and wanted to check the keel bolts. Thanx

Jerry Henderson ([email protected])

Nice to hear from you Jerry. i was reading a thread on another forum about keel bolt torque settings for a Catalina 30 or 34. i have wondered about his issue myself. i turned down a nice H38 that had water in the bilge (hatch left open on hard) and a flooded engine, because of water seeping OUT of the keel/hull joint. Comparisons with torquing steel or aluminum wheels on cars is not a valid comparison (imho) because of the relatively soft nature of the fibreglass that is on our Hughes 38s. i will do more research on this as this is something we need to address on this website. Perhaps you might want to tell us about yourself on the Who’s Who page. Anyway keep in touch. jon

A quick search turned up this thread here: http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?threads/keel-bolt-maintenance.178671/&highlight=keel%20bolt%20torque Its for a Catalina 310 with a 4000lb external lead keel. The Catalina 310 has 1″ stainless bolts. i believe that these torque specs are low for a H38. i believe that the thread gives good advice on cleaning up the threads of stainless steel bolts before retorquing. Perhaps new nuts are in order as well. It seems to me that periodic maintenance (retorquing) of keel bolts is a smart and sensible way to prevent the caulking between the keel and the hull from working and cracking, which would lead to deterioration of the keel bolts. What size are the keel bolts on your boat? On the H38 to completely retorque the bolts, the engine would need to be moved. Blessings jon

Here is more information from Beneteau

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/955501/Keel%20Bolts.pdf

It recommends torquing in a staggered pattern. Values given are for metric bolts. M24 is 15/16″ and M30 is 1 3/16″. Values seem high to me. i would torque to the lower end of the range.

Also some report that stainless steel bolts need to be lubricated before torquing, and torqued in steps. Loctite Blue has been recommended as a lubricant with the added advantage of preventing the loosening of the bolts over time. There are Loctite products specifically for stainless. Maybe worth checking out. blessings jon

Hello. We’ve recently purchased the boat referred to on your registry as “Northport unknown.” Very excited to find your group! We’re doing some work on the boat on the hard, but will be launching her soon, and sailing her across Long Island Sound to her new home port in Connecticut.

Great to have you Stephanie. Can you tell us about your boat and ill post it on the Who’s who section? Any information that you have that we dont have here on the website, please let us know. Welcome to Hughes 38 owners group. jon

Thanks, Jon. Will provide more info later, but the basics are that she’s a 1969 vintage with an Atomic 4. She appears to be largely original, but we didn’t know anything about Hughes boats until we first saw her, so I might have to amend that statement after further review. We fell in love at first sight and can’t wait to get her launched. She’s been sailed all these years, according to the prior owner, whom she’d been with since 1980.

Hello, Commodore. We launched our boat over the Labor Day weekend and we are enjoying her immensely. She’s called Windflower, which is a name she’s had for quite some time, but we’re not sure how far back it goes. The owner is Douglas Bell of NYC (my longtime boyfriend). Windflower is moored in Rowayton, CT. I can send a photo if you’d like to see her.

Ahoy Stephanie. Congratulations on your launch. Windflower, what a beautiful name for a boat! Yes, i’d like to see a picture. i’d post it to the site, if thats OK. i made an offer on a H38, but the ask and offer were too far apart for compromise. i’m researching another H38, and maybe i’ll make an offer later. they have reduced the price twice, and are getting closer to my target. it’s in good condition, but needs lots of equipment – it’s like a bare boat, which is OK because i can buy the stuff that i like. jon

Jon Your website incorporates some great photos of elegant sailboats. When I lived on Exuma, one of the out islands of The Bahamas, my boyfriend bought an Abaco hull (considered one of the best at that time) and built a ketch for our sailing adventures. Your website is beginning to soar. Sending Love. Your cousin – Cherie Pipes…

Jon – I sent you an e-mail with 2 photos. Good luck with your H38 shopping! Steph

i posted the photos.

Hello I am looking for info on the hughes 80/20. In particular the steel I beam along the keel. Sincerely City. SMALLEY

i used to have a link to a website about a Hughes 80/20 based in San Francisco bay. The link no longer works. Sorry. i also would like to know more about the steel keel bed on most Hughes boats. Anybody know? jon

https://youtu.be/kr1Rls-HLis

Wiskejak gets a new home on her new mooring.

Congratulations Gary, on Wiskejak’s new home on the water. i believed all along that the two of you could do it and you did! blessings jon

Hey there! I was wondering if you guys had any idea what the three different discs on the helm are responsible for on the Hughes 38? Is it mere aesthetics (which usually doesn’t happen on sailboats, everything always has a job), if not, what does it control? Thanks!

Ahoy Mark, i’m not sure what you mean by the three discs. Do you have any pics? blessings jon

I believe the question is the three wheels.

the three wheels on the steering pedestal are: largest main rudder;2nd wheel is for trim tab (rudder) on rear of keel; 3rd and smallest was for a small trim tab on rear of one of the rudders. My boat: Xanadu: has the trim tab / rudder on rear of keel glassed solid to keel and any remains of small trim tab is gone. Xanadu was raced and the trim tabs were probably required to be nonfunctional

Thanks Burt for the update jon

To the Commodore: There is a Hughes 38 listing on sailboatlistings in Sea Cliff NY,

I would look at it myself but the other half of my team isn’t up for it.

Ahoy Jake, i’ve seen the listing, but i haven’t seen the boat in person yet. There is also an unadvertised one for sale in Toronto area, which i have pics for but don’t have permission to post them. Seems to be in good condition, trim tab, A4. If you’re interested email me and i will give you the man’s email address.

What has been the swim ladder solution for anyone who had added one?

Ahoy Gary. i’ve seen swim ladders on the side and i’ve seen them on the stern. i don’t have details, but i can sort thru my pics. jon

We have a portable folding one. We tried it on the side, forget it. It’s is ok on the stern but it is still not an easy climb. The overhang will be a challenge for a permanent one.

Enjoyed a weekend cruise on the $1 boat.

https://youtu.be/p9pdd5ewPhc

Hey, Gary, great video! She sure looks good from the row away angle. Makes you want to come back to her! No? jon

Hi all, Gary, the West Marine 6-step gunwale-mount folding ladder works pretty well for us amidships.

I’d be grateful for the group’s input on something I’m puzzling over. I’ve recored portions of the deck on my 1969 Hughes 38. I’m now dry-fitting the sea hood per the original cabin liner holes. There’s more than an inch gap between the aft end of the sea hood and the forward end of the closed companionway hatch. In other words, an aerial view would include a bit of the deck that’s under the sea hood. It seems to me the purpose of the hood is to keep water from entering the cabin when the hatched is closed, which I’d think would require the sea hood to slightly overhang the closed hatch. Is my boat an outlier, or does your boat have the same gap? Or does your boat have a slight overhang? When it’s closed, I assume the aft end of the hatch should be flush with the aft surface of the vertical companionway frame, so the aft end of the hatch is not flush with, but overhangs the drop boards. The forward end of the closed hatch is flush with the forward side of fiberglass cross-piece, so there is a slight overhang of the closed hatch above the companionway frame. I could reposition the hood 2.5″ aft, so that when the handle on the top of the open hatch butts up against the hood, the aft end of the hatch would have about an inch to go before it’s flush with the horizontal frame over the companionway. Is that how your open hatch aligns? Currently, the horizontal wood frame acts as a stop for opening my hatch when the hasp bolts contact it. Once I put it all together, should I seal under the three sides of the bolted hood rim or not–so small amounts water can escape under it instead of making its way to the aft opening? Thanks very much in advance, Doug Bell

Doug: i dunno, really. Anyone? blessings jon

Thanks Doug for the ladder suggestion. My research so far is pointing me to the designs of the vintage pilot boarding ladders and the Davey and Company ladder hardware kits for a reverse hook folding ladder. I think it would hook nicely on a jib car at the lifeline gate. Most of the stern ladders look awkward on this transom.

My hatch does the same thing. It leaves a gap. I picked up on that right away. So far it doesn’t seem to let water into the cabin but I do have a dodger.

Gary, thanks very much. I’m guessing there’s a good rationale for the gap, but I don’t know what it might be.

Your ladder solution is wonderfully elegant. Very impressed.

Anybody know where I might procure one of those aluminum table legs for the 1969 cabin table?

I own Xanadu a U.S. documented Hughes 38 and recently found this site, it currently is in a storage yard in the Las Vegas Nv. area. I find your site to be informative and would like to be included on the owners list. have plans to move boat to the coast this next spring.

Welcome to the Hughes 38 website. i will add your name and your email address to the owner’s list. i didn’t send out an email to the owners this month, because i have been busy doing other things than updating the website. Blessings jon

Trying to dry out the boat lol

Thanks to all who participate on this site and especially to the Commodore. This site has been invaluable to me as I researched the Hughes 38.

I am happy to announce that I am the new owner of SV Farfalla! She truly is a beautiful boat and I look forward to kitting her out for extended cruising and the adventures she will bring. I am sure that I will be turning to other owners for advice and input along the way and I thank you all, in advance. peace/love/waves/song Brian Dale http://www.briandale.ca

Welcome Brian to the forum. Congrads on buying Farfalla. She is truely beautiful. i will add you to our owners list. jon

I am a Hughes 38 owner (1980) and have just come up on your forum. I have owned her for the past 9 years. I am currently doing detailed drawings of the boat (deck layout and interior layout). If anyone is interested, I can share these drawings on this site.

Anton: Welcome aboard. i would love to see your drawings. If you want me to post your drawings, i will. blessings jon

Hello, all. I am looking for information regarding the internal outhaul system on the original Hughes 38 roller boom. I recently purchased SV Farfalla and one of the first things I noticed was the hand crank outhaul was almost completely seized so I couldn’t tension the foot of the mainsail. It’s actually a pretty simple setup. The clew attaches to a sliding fitting at the aft end of the boom. The fitting is attached to a cable that rounds a sheave and runs forward inside the boom. 2/3 of the way forward there is a hand crank on the underside of the boom. It’s basically a beveled gear that moves a long, threaded rod back and forth to put tension on/off the outhaul cable. At first I thought my cable was jammed up somewhere but it is running free. The crank assembly will barely turn but I can’t actually see anything wrong with it. I put a bit of oil on the gears but that didn’t seem to make any difference. There is part of the assembly that appears sealed. Wondering if maybe it should be greased?? I didn’t have a lot of time to work on it and it’s a pain to remove completely without cutting the out haul cable. Any thoughts or experience would be greatly appreciated.

Brian: i don’t know, but i’ll post it and maybe someone will be able to help you. blessings jon

Hello i have a 69 h38 my outhaul exits the boom around midway through an exit block then around a small winch and cam cleat if that helps any it works quite well

We are from Germany and glad to be part of this community!

Does anybody know the original size/measurement and thickness of the windows from our Hughes 38 MK3 from 1980?

We would appreciate if anybody can kindly assist in this matter!

With best regards,

Drazenka & Josef

Our Boat: Hughes MK3 Building 1980 Name „Mitan“ West Bay / Bras d Or Lake/Cape Breton

Ahoy Drazenka and Josef. Welcome aboard. Maybe someone here can help you. blessings jon

Hello all, What a great find of a site when you have just purchased a Hughes 38! Thanks so much for all your input and information. My wife and I acquired “Free Spirit” in the Fall of 2017 – in your registry as a Toronto, Ontario vessel but was on the hard in Port Dalhousie, Ontario when we purchased her (could this be the sv “unknown” in Port Dalhousie that is listed in the Registry?) She’ll be moored in Collins Bay, Ontario next season. Cheers, Brent & Krista Young

Welcome to the Hughes 38 owners group. The name “Free Spirit” rings a bell. i’ll have to check my records to see what i have on her. blessings jon

I have a 1981 38’ Hughes, one of the last ones before the factory burnt down. I repowered it with a 25hp Beta Marine and put in a hot water system off the engine. We sail in the Pacific North West and the boat handles well in heavy weather. The boat was launched as the De la Rue and was renamed Keloah. A great boat.

Welcome aboard Bryon. i’m sure that you have a great boat and the sailing characteristics are second to none! i really like the Beta engines, i think that the Kubota are the best you can get and the Beta is the best of the Kubota engine marinizers. The red is cool too! i would love to see some pics of your hot water system. i guarantee that i will post them if you let me! jon

You can go for a sail on “Folie”, the first Hughes 38, here:

https://youtu.be/9D7kBtdMM9g

Thanks Ron. i’ll post it in the videos section. blessings jon

I have a bit more information if you are interested. The boat featured in the video, Folie, was (is?) a Hughes 38 that was a long time resident of the NYC. It was owned by David Anderson at the time I recall.

Folie was the first Hughes 38 made, and was launched at the National Yacht Club August 30, 1967.

Judging from the fact that only two Toronto Dominion towers are completed (they can be seen in the background), the film was shot between 1969 and 1974. To the best of my recollection, because I see that my grandfather’s boat is painted dark blue (I see it on its mooring), it is probably early 1970s, as I participated in its repainting from robin’s egg blue about that time.

Wow! thanks for the link too. This is what makes this site: owner participation. blessings jon

On Folie in 1967.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=TSrrSLLB_BwC&pg=PP618&lpg=PP618&dq=hughes+38+folie&source=bl&ots=PrMio7ubcu&sig=9jmSVizNPxtPYXL7BtVS4a4IvbU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLhJeapvHZAhUGY6wKHT_CBYYQ6AEIaDAJ#v=onepage&q=hughes%2038%20folie&f=false

Great video. I would love more background on the video. It looks like a professional promo or something. Shot better than an average home movie for sure. What was the slogan on their tshirts for? Where is Folie now? Etc.

Hello there. I am the new owner of the Hughes 38 “Thula Mama” mentioned on your website. I was wondering if you could help me regarding how well the boat sits fore and aft on a conventional slipway cradle as its pulled up the rails. I intend to put a line from both bow and stern down to the cradle for safety regardless but i,m just curious how well balanced these boats are and will they sit nicely on their own? Thanks very much for your time. Cheers. Max Fox. Geelong, Vic. Australia.

Can anyone help Max here on this one? And welcome to the website, i hope that you find it helpful. It is becoming a record of my journey to the sea. jon

Hi all, I’m adding Harken Classic 48 primaries to Windflower, our 1969 Hughes 38. Could somebody please measure or check plans to help me with positioning them? From various videos it looks like about a foot aft of the cabin. Thanks!

Can anyone help Doug? i do know that the cabin length on the MK1 and the MK3 are different. The MK1 has a larger cockpit and smaller cabin, the MK3 has the opposite. Make sure that you check the position on another Hughes 38 MK1. 😉 thanks and blessings jon

I have a 1969 MK 1 (SV Farfalla). Contact my email and I can send some photos I have of the cockpit. I should be able to get some actual measurements tomorrow or the next day.

Jon, can you forward my email to Doug Bell?

Thanks, Brian. i’m sure that Doug will appreciate it. i know that i do. i forwarded your email to him. blessings jon

Hi, Steve Spinelli here. Happy to say that hull #256 is mine and named Uncas. It was on the hard for years. Plenty of projects to do but enjoying this quick well pointing boat on Sodus Bay.

Ahoy Steve, Welcome aboard. Wasn’t that the one that was being sold by POP Yachts? i took a good long look at that one, but i never drove down and saw her in person. i’ll update her (and your) info in the Boat Registry section. Blessings jon

Hey guys anyone recognize this boat in the movie Adrift?

http://samclaflinfans.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ARDIFT-1.png

A Hughes 38 on the big screen!

We took in the movie Adrift. Was surprised to see a Hughes 38 go across the screen!

Well, now i am going to have to watch this movie to see this. What a good find!

I won’t spoil it for you but the H 38 does well 😉

i wonder whose H38 it is? Is it a cameo appearance or was it used by the film studio? Got me wondern jon

Good day Commodore, fellow H38 owners, and enthusiasts! Stay tuned to https://breezewayyachts.com in the next few weeks as my H38 will be posted for new ownership. She’s a 1972 with no hull number, name: Moonlight Mistress. Currently in Whitby with history of sailing in the Gulf of Mexico, around Belize. She’s been refitted with a Westerbeke 4-60 over the keel. Lots of birds eye maple in the cabin with classic beautiful Hughes carpentry. Hoping it goes to a very caring and new owner with plans to sail her lots. Reason for selling her: we’re getting a bit older and need a bit smaller, something that can be easily singled handed. Regards to all and safe passage.

May God grant you goodspeed in your quest to sell your boat. i am sure that she is lovely. Birds eye maple, huh? Must be gorgeous. blessings jon

I think I bought your boat. I work at sea for a living as a marine engineer so I have lots of spare time to sail in my months off. She’ll be well looked after.

Sailing her to Chester NS in August once I fly home from work.

I think I bought your boat. I go to sea professionally as a marine engineer so I have lots of time to sail in my months off. I’ll certainly give her a good home.

Sailing her out East to Chester NS in August when I fly home from work.

Thank you sir. And as this forum tracks the H38 my non-official records say that her hull number is 49. However it’s not stamped anywhere.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1972/Hughes-38-3228006/Whitby/Canada?refSource=standard listing#.W0VGOIEXbqA

Anybody have the tiller version of the hughes? How do you like it? I’m currently considering purchasing one as a live aboard; any thoughts? What are the fuel and water capacities? Why are they so cheap?

Any info appreciated 🙂

i know that there are tiller versions. Gary Goodlander sailed with one for many years, and i know that some versions came with an emergency tiller. i am in the process of making an emergency tiller, that could be used as a full time tiller. Hughes 38s are cheap because the design has fallen out of favor with the yachting community. Yacht design, like automobile design, goes in fads and everybody has to follow the leader or they will be left out without sales (or sails). Different Hughes 38s have different fuel and water capacities, so it depends on the specific boat that you are considering. blessings, jon

Thank you for the rapid response, John!

Have any of you installed any heat on board? I’m assuming due to the nature of the boats design (racing) the stove would have been use for heat? Of course, particularly in the PNW, heating on a live aboard is pretty essential.

Regards, Jesse

There are several sources of heat, but without any insulation on the hull, i’m sure that condensation would be a problem. If i remember correctly there is 1″ of balsa in the deck, so that really helps. i believe that the best source of heat is a Wallas diesel stove. If you have a diesel motor, you can use the same source of fuel and the Wallas stove can be purchased with an optional “lid” that converts the stovetop into a cabin heater. These are efficient because they are vented outside. Any heater without ventilation to the outside will produce condensation as well as make the interior unsafe from carbon monoxide. Boats that have foam or balsa core in the topsides of the hull make better liveaboards in northern climates, unless you do extensive renovations to add insulation to the hull. i, personally, have not installed any heat. The link to the Wallas diesel stove is on this site here: http://www.hughes38.com/?page_id=621 jon

Here is a real interesting way to heat a boat: A Russian heater.

http://quidnon.blogspot.com/

I have a Little Cod solid fuel stove that sits uninstalled. I look forward to having heat in the cool shoulder seasons here on The North Channel. The placement is the issue. I am struggling to find just the right spot and sort out an installation solution. In due time.

For now I heat up a cast iron Dutch Oven with stones in it on the galley alcohol stove. This process warms the cabin. When I turn in I’ll wrap a stone in a towel and and take it with me in my bunk. Sometimes I leave a low flame on the stove. That and an oil lamp usually keeps the cabin liveable. At the dock I plug in an electric space heater.

I am in the middle of core work. It’s 1/2 inch balsa.

Thanks Gary for the update. i think that it is crucial from all i have read that whatever system of heating is used that the gasses be vented outside, to prevent CO poisoning and to eliminate condensation. i have read so many stories about people being warm but the whole cabin was wet. Not good. i think that the reason that the solid fuel stoves are so successful in drying out the cabin is because they are vented outside. It seems a popular place to put a stove is just forward of the table near the bulkhead and the mast. blessings jon

i received this email today from a Hughes 38 owner:

Hello Commodore,

My name is Kadin and my wife is Savannah. We purchased a H38 MKIII a few years ago with the intention of refitting her completely. I’ve made a lot of progress but we still have a long ways to go.

She is powered with a Universal Diesel 25HP. The motor only has 50 hours +/- but we have decided that we are happy with the technological progress in electric driven systems and are planning next spring to sell the diesel and drop in an etek motor with a lithium power plant in place of the diesel tank. We believe it is a good candidate for electric conversion because of its sleek narrow beam and the cramped nature of a diesel engine. While its nice to have a heavy diesel in the keel there are other problems. For example, we had problems putting in a water lift muffler with that much of a rise to get the exhaust to the stern so we had to manufacture a water-jacketed system. With our current exhaust system there is no noise muffling of the exhaust so our boat sounds like a farm tractor and will drive you mad after a few hours of motoring. Also, the floor has turned into a giant radiator that heats the cabin up to unbearable temperatures in the summer. This does not take into account that the floor had to be modified to accommodate the size of the diesel. I now have a big trip hazard in the middle of the dinette. I dream longingly of the last day that I have to handle hydrocarbons (aka oil changes, diesel, grease).

We plan on doing a bit of off shore cruising especially in the Caribbean, Central America and South America. We purchased the boat for 10K and have a small house in NC also. We went for a boat that is smaller that didn’t suck up all of our financial resources and at the same time could survive a strong blow. It is perfect for us as a couple but we definitely wouldn’t want to go any smaller. There are times we think about how an aft-cabin, a larger cockpit, and L-shape galley would be very pleasant but the trade-offs (expense, maintenance, sailing ability) are too big at this time. We want to accomplish our sailing dreams and the H38 puts that within our reach.

I’ve been researching H38 material for a long time and I am grateful for your time in putting together an owners group where we can share information and resources. Plus, there is a psychological effect as well as it brings owners together to build pride in their boat’s S&S heritage. In a way, H38’s have suffered from a branding problem in the past few decades and so many potential cruisers have passed over this gem in lieu of inferior built boats with more creature comforts. However, don’t misunderstand me, Hughes are not without their host of problems. I am just making the case that is is an excellent pick for a budget cruiser or singlehander.

We have a blog site you can visit http://svtitania.com where we are trying to document our progress towards our goals. Feel free to link to us or pull any pictures off our site to include in your Owner’s Club photos.

Best Wishes, Kadin

This is an email i received from Travis. Lets welcome him to our group.

Subject: Hughes 38 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018

I’ve recently bought a 1973 Hughes 38 and I came across this page while I was researching the boat. Is everyone in the group still active?

Thank you, Travis

I have not been on the site much. It has some great threads. I really enjoy my boat but as a singlehanded sailor she is becoming a bit of a challenge. I am planning to install a wheel pilot and lazy jacks this year to make getting underway and trimming sails easier. Where you sailing her ?

Welcome to the Hughes 38 owners group, Brian. We try to provide resources for those that own the Hughes 38 and related boats, as well as general nautical items of interest. And thanks for the pics, i am going to post some of them soon. jon

Here is an email that i received from Brian:

Jon, Greetings from Saudi Arabia. I am passing the time thinking about what I will do to “Attitude “ this wi term and coming season. This year I am likely going to attack the bilge and make her look new and possibly rebuild my Atomic four, install lazy jacks and a wheel pilot to make my single handing a bit easier. She is on the hard in Buffalo, NY and lives at RCR Yachts and Buffalo Canoe Club in Canada. Thought you might want a few pictures and video to post. Happy holidays! Brian

i want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas on this day that we celebrate the birth of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. May the Lord bless you and keep you, may His Face shine upon you and give you rest. jon

At the bulkhead by the table is what I’d prefer as well. It just seems too close to the mast. This stove I think is too heavy and bulky to mounted directly to the bulkhead. I will need to build a base or go on top of the settee. It might not be the right stove. I love both though. I will send a picture.

I own a 1979 Hughes 38 with a Volvo Penta MD11c diesel. DUring haul out the lift strap inadvertently wa splaced on the saildrive, which was of course pushed up into the hull until the prop blade touched the hull. When the boat wa splaced on the cradle, the saildrive fell back into place. So far, the damage noted included broken motor mounts and broken flange/gasket.

So my question is, has anyone suffered a similar incident, or know of such? And what was the outcome.

I have a 1972 Hughes 38 that’s available for sale in Pensacola, FL. Any interested parties can contact me at 832-259-9957

We have had in our family a Hughes 38 for ~18 years, sailing around the New York / New Jersey waters. She has been incredibly reliable, resilient, and sails with ease.

Over the years we have improved the sail plan, refinished the topside, and the list goes on.

We are in the process of replacing the fixed portlights. Has anyone had any experience with re-installing the interior and exterior frames? proven methods or techniques would be appreciated.

Hull # 226, More boat info and photos to follow

I’ve done that job on my 1972 NorthStar 38, SERENA. I used GE Lexan for the window material. The job was pretty straightforward. I ended up polishing the aluminum to a high gloss rather than attempt to restore the coating. Fasteners came out easy and I replaced all of them, as they need to be ground down on the inside (nut-side). When you purchase new fasteners/machine screws, ensure they are long enough to start a nut on the thread on the inside, but plan on grinding the excess down flush to the nut to avoid hardware hanging up on window treatments. The only thing I messed up was the positioning of the port lights back in in their openings. I made a few of them a bit cock-eyed. Be sure to mark the frame positions on each portlight inside and out, so that when you rebed them, you get each back to their original positions.

A good article here: https://marinehowto.com/installing-newfound-metals-portlights/

Lotsa good stuff here guys. Warms my heart. i enjoy approving a real comment among the hundreds of spams that i get. Viagra, porn, russian, chinese, german spams. Take a week off from the site and i got almost 200 spams. First world problems i guess. jon

i am researching the hughes 38. if you have information or first hand knowledge of the hughes 38 please pm me or email me directly. i will answer all emails. highseas especially. i have a question: Does anybody know how to contact the hughes 31 users group? they have not answered my attempt to join for over a month. it is frustrating to think that they have information on a boat that i am interested in but i cant access it. any ideas? jon

Just wanted to say hello. I own hull number 86, which is a 1972 Hughes 38 MKII. I am currently swapping out the Westerbeke 30b-three she had when I bought her with the exact model Mitsubishi (L3E) and xferring all the westerbeke ‘marine’ bits to the Mitsubishi (tempting to call it a “Westerbishi”).

Looking forward to getting the engine finally running in the next few weeks and hopefully squeeze in every ‘end of the season’ sailing that I can muster in Annapolis.

Beyond that is the usual project list one would expect with a 47 year old boat.

Hey, Larry. Great idea of transferring the marine parts to a ready available block (Mitsubishi L3E) thereby avoiding the “marine” markup. Many of these “marine” parts can be sourced elsewhere than in “marine” dealers. i plan on building a section this winter on interchange ability of parts. Any info that you have for us would be very appreciated. Congrads on your Westerbishi. blessings jon

Hello, all. In need of some assistance, please. I have a 1969 MK1 with the destroyer style helm located forward in the cockpit. I need to remove the wheel and I am stumped. Is there a secret pin, internal collar or key slot that I am missing?? Everything (wheel and shaft) appears loose, disconnected and spins freely. If you have any experience with disassembling, please, any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!! Brian Dale @bdale2

Can anyone help Brian with removing the wheel? thanks

i believe that there is a diagram of the Cinkel pedestal steering here on this site. Here is the link:

https://www.hughes38.com/?page_id=510

i received an email from Mike and Courtney aboard SV Athena (used to be 50/50)

Dear Commodore, Mike and I bought a 1974 boat tagged 50/50 and she has become a legend. Renamed Athena on launching in May of 2017 we left Canada and have visited the Azores, Barbados, and islands passing through to the Turks and Caicos group on the Bahamas Bank. Then we returned to the Azores and the Mediterranean Sea to Greece. Returning west we are now in Portugal and expect to do a western run to the Caribbean and up the coast to Canada. So far the best adventure one can take a boat on. The Atomic 4 has had a few service jobs and the sail inventory is looking a bit worn but it really is an amazing cruising craft. We have a Windpilot type servo pendulum self steering system. Essential for ocean passages. Regards,

Mike and Courtney

i am currently getting over 100 spams a day. i have installed spam blockers but they don’t seem to be working. Don’t know why. Anyway, if your post doesn’t get posted its probably because i missed it in the deluge of spams. Try sending me an email instead. commodore Hughes 38 owners group

i got these emails from Bruce in Texas:

I found your website and wanted you to know for the record that I purchased an interesting Hinckley 38 finished in 1971. The name of the yacht was Moxie when I purchased it. The previous owner purchased it in 2007 in NY. From my records – it was previously documented in San Francisco. When I purchased it – I was told it was one of a number of the same purchased for a yacht club in NY for racing. (T)he first three, as described were owned by members of Knickerbocker Yacht Club, now closed, in Port Washington, NY. I could not stand the name Moxie – so I changed the name to Sea Jewel II (as Sea Jewel is my 20′ gaff-rigged wooden sloop I had custom built by an award-winning boat builder). I’ll take good care of her…like my baby.

Just got off the phone with a fellow who sailed this yacht on a number of occasions and swears it was called Lady Del owned by Edward D. (a mgr. for Dennis Conner). My paperwork doesn’t go back that far. Best wishes, Bruce

i got this email from Steve:

Hi, I’m considering one of these lovely vessels but I’m concerned about this weight placement with the anchor and chain. I’ve been in some nasty seas and having a full size anchor and it’s chain in the head seems destructive and dangerous. It this really necessary to ensure safety in heavy weather? I can’t imagine the boat was designed without an anchor or chain in mind. Thanks, Steve

In my opinion, the chain locker should be aft of the head in the bilge, and the anchor should be removed before heavy weather and put in the bilge. Thats what Fatty Goodlander did with his anchor and chain in his old Hughes 38 jon

Steve replied:

Is there space for it there, it seems the engine would be taking up that space? How is it the boat is so sensitive to weight? I’ve sailed 42 years and 30000Nm and never was this an issue.

One owner replied to Steve: I’m using the locker but keeping weight to a minimum. Only 40′ of chain, 200′ nylon and an aluminum Fortress hook. The added advantage is that I can man handle everything easily. I was planning on a bowsprit and roller installation since I don’t even have a roller. Other owners have done this. I would like heavier gear for added security but still mulling over all the extra cost and weight.

I think my heavy storm anchor and additional chain will be going in the bilge. I won’t be able to handle heavier tackle without installing a sprit, roller and windlass. For once or twice a season in bad weather I could manage say a 45 or 50 Mantus/Rocna.

I doubt there would be any issues for most coastal cruising with weight in the bow. It is a sturdy and seaworthy design! In stormy open sea conditions it’s prudent for any boat to keep weight out of the ends. Fatty mentions that removing the anchor on passages significantly improved the performance and safety in stormy weather. G W

Another long time Hughes 38 owner replied:

On SV K_______ we have a 35 lb CQR as a bower with 160 feet of 5/16 chain and 180′ rope. In the same anchor locker we store a 45 lb 3-piece fisherman anchor. I’m considering going from 160′ to 300′ of 5/16 chain. We’ve been in nasty weather and ridden out steady 40 knot storms with gusts to 48. The H38’s pinched stern leaves little reserve buoyancy aft, so I think it helps to keep some weight forward. D G

Hi Jon/Steve

I have SV Farfalla, a ’69 H38. I’ve read all of Fatty’s books and he only puts his 300′ main anchor rode in the head when he is on passage and anticipating large seas. He stows a spare Fortress anchor in the bilge. Otherwise he utilizes the bow anchor locker in the normal fashion. Keep in mind that an H38 is a fairly light boat, for a 38, and Fatty was FULLY loaded for cruising so good weight distribution was essential.

As I am working toward living aboard, I have removed my holding tank (now using composting toilet) and water tanks from under the v-berth, to reduce weight forward. I have installed new, larger, water tanks under the settees, amidship. This should allow me to carry more weight forward in the anchor locker. I am planning on replacing my 35lb CQR with a 55lb Rocna Vulcan and using 100′ of chain with 200′ of line, to start, but should be able to carry the weight of 300′ of chain and still be fairly balanced.

Steve, the H38 sails incredibly well. As long as the weight on the boat is well balanced she will handle heavy seas well.

Good luck. Brian Dale

Hi, http://www.hughes38.com site is very useful for those who are passionate about boats, like me.

Also, I found where to download boat plans: https://bit.ly/StepbyStepBoatPlans I hope it will be useful! Cheers! 🙂

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