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1977 Islands 17. Boat is in good condition. Big enough for 4 people and easily towed by any car. Main is original and jib is newer. Rebuilt rudder head and tiller. Rebuilt motor mount. Very dry. No...

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My sister and brother-in-law came over for dinner and said, "our neighbor across the street has a sailboat for sale." i drove over and looked. it appeared to be a sumner islands 17 in excellent condition. i had bid on a 12-foot and a 15-foot sumner islands (see below) in the past couple of years, but other ebayers apparently wanted them more than i did., my offer for the boat was accepted and i towed it home. i later discovered that i had an islands 17 built by ocean yachts, of patchogue, long island. ocean yachts built this and other boats from the late sixties until 1979, when it sold out to the sumner family. ocean yachts apparently built the islands 17 only in bright yellow, but the sumner islands boats had mostly white hulls. the island 17 is basically a copy of the tanzer 16, but the slanted transom gave it added length., the main and furling jib were in good condition. the original plywood inside the transom where the gudgeons and motor mount are attached had delaminated, so i replaced this with marine plywood and glassed over it. i also refinished the aft hatch cover and made a new rudder head., the original trailer needed a lot of work and only had 8" wheels, so i put the islands 17 on a cox tilt trailer with 12" wheels, a better winch and nice mast crutch., the hull had a couple of scratches, some of which the previous owner tried to patch with resin. the original color was bleached out and when i removed the numbers, it became quite obvious, so i repainted the hull., finally, i made a rear mast crutch and bought new spreader boots i sold my islands 17 for $1500 someone in oklahoma sent me this picture of his ocean yachts islands 20., the puzzling history of ocean yachts and sumner boats, around 1979, ocean yachts sold its molds to arthur sumner and his son, jonathan, of amityville, ny. sumner boat works added its name and continued building the same line of boats with few changes using hart sails. the sumner boat works was located at the end of south bayview avenue, in amityville, long island. the south bay sailing center is located there today. sumner boat works sold the sprite 8, sumner islands 12, sumner islands 15, sumner islands 17, sumner islands 19, and the mark 25. an archived article in the new york times about a boat show reads : "in your search for innovative ideas, don't overlook older models. in the boating industry, newer is not necessarily better. sumner boat company of amityville, l.i., plans to show its mark 25 for the third year. the boat features a radical sail plan with a 40-foot mast stepped unusually far forward on the boat. the sailboat, which sells for about $22,000, carries a large mainsail and small jib." (the article was printed monday, january 8, 1990, on section c, page 11 of the new york edition. in forum talk it has been claimed that sumner didn't build the mark 25, but just sold the boats. stephen stambleck wrote on sailnet.com (march 2009): "the first five mark 25s were built to order by ontario yachts in toronto. the designer was the founder of c&c yachts" george c. [cumbertson] another 12 were built by eli laminates in long island. after that, construction stopped due to the crash of the industry. additional, larger models, were designed but never built." i found the following two ads on ebay that advertised several larger models from 31' to 37'..

I received the following email from a man named Vinny, who worked for Sumner: I worked at Sumner boats way back in the early 70's... on and off for the next 20 or so. I've lived in Amityville for 46 year's... I still go to the end of Bayview Ave and think of my youth and day's spent employed at Sumner Boat. Heck, I go back so far that I remember Bob Peters, the working foreman and master mechanic at Sumner Boat riding his bicycle to work as I waited for my bus to take me to Park Ave school. Bob lived just on the other side of Montauk Hwy and made his commute on good weather day's. I liked Bob very much and learned a lot from him. Mr Sumner was in my opinion hard on him and quite demanding... I helped build his 8' dink and a 10'er. They could be rowed or sailed. I still have a brochure for the 8'er. I also remember the larger boats he made. Three or so were under construction at the time. GM diesels sat in the machine shop next to a motor sailor and a 30' or so cruiser. I saw one going on a sea trial... It went pretty good. One was an upside down hull of frame work with strips of wood laid down like planking, then covered with epoxy, glass cloth and I think wire mesh... If any of the motor sailor's or larger Sumner Craft still exsist please email me. Vinny I emailed Vinny the two small clips shown above and he immediately recognized the boats. I read on a forum that around 1995, The Sumner factory caught fire and was destroyed including most of the tooling and some molds. One source on WoodenBoat.com said that Sumner produced boats from 1972 until 1997, but another forum entry said "Sumner was in business long before 1972. That is around the time they switched to all glass boats. They were proponents of glass covered strip planked boats in the 50's and 60's." Justin Sumner wrote on www.voile.org in 2006, "My father, Jonathan and his dad, Arthur ran Sumner Boat Company back in the day. Unfortunately all the molds have been destroyed from the Sumner line." At some time, the factory in Amityville was purchased by Bill Menger of Menger Boat Works. Menger became well known for his catboats. An obit for Bill Menger (2004) reports , "In 1989, a fire nearly shut down the business, destroying the molds for the fiberglass hulls. But father and son decided to continue what they started, and reopened Menger Boatworks in an old seaplane factory in Amityville, with sliding doors that open onto Ketchum Creek." After the fire they apparently specialized in catboats. Menger catboats are now produced by Thompson Boatworks. I could not ascertain whether the fires mentioned are the same event with faulty dates or if there were two different fires. Vinny wrote me, As far as a fire goes, this did not happen. I know this to be fact for two reasons. 1) I would have heard about it, and 2) the place would not have survived, as it was loaded with saw dust, reducers and the likes. If anyone can shed more light on the puzzle, I would be happy to post it here. Below are pictures of the Sumner Islands 19, a neat little pocket cruiser.

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Islands 17 is a 16 ′ 9 ″ / 5.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Johann Tanzer and built by Ocean Yachts / Sumner Boat Co. (USA) starting in 1972.

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Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

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SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

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Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

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CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

The ISLANDS 17 is most likely a ‘splashed’ copy of the TANZER 16 with a reverse transom giving it a slightly longer waterline length. Those who have seen both boats have all commented on the striking similarity, especially in the case of earlier boats by Ocean Yachts. The later version, built by Sumner, (also called SUMNER ISLANDS 17), has a cockpit liner with added flotation as well as number of other modifications. Thanks to ‘Dave from Maine’ for additional information on this yacht.

Both companies were located on Long Island, NY, USA

Sumner Boat Co. was located at: 334 South Bayview Ave. Amityville NY. 11701

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Islands 17 sailboat – SOLD

Clinton Sailing Club > Sold > Islands 17 sailboat – SOLD

1977 Ocean Yachts Islands 17 sailboat (centerboard) with 2013 trailer. Sails were replaced at some point and are in great shape, one neatly taped patch. Includes like new sail cover and whole boat cover and fixed outboard mount. Clear title/registrations for both boat and trailer. Boat specs – https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/islands-17

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The Islands 17 is a 16.75ft fractional sloop designed by Johann Tanzer and built in fiberglass since 1972.

The Islands 17 is an ultralight sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat.

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1979 Islander 40 Sailboat Peterson Located in Bellingham WashingtonThis 40' Islander sails beautifully and is very roomy inside with a large galley, lots of storage and sleeping arrangements. She has a large V-berth with lots of room for all your belongings. She has been beautifully maintained and refurbished.Here are a few of the details for this fine yacht LOA 39.5'Beam 11.' 83"Draft- 7.4'Material- FiberglassCruise Speed- 7 knotsLWL 30.67Mast height- 54'Water tank- 48 gallons StainlessHolding Tank 20 gallons NylonFuel- 38 gallons Stainlessdry weight- 17,000

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Im not sure of the make of this sailboat, according to the HIN, it is Ocean Yachts Company, but I believe it is all there including mast and rigging, along with a JIB sail, rudder, seat cushions, boat bumper, bottom paint, engine mount. and I believe it to be an Islands 17, but not sure Comes with trailer and spare tire. She seems very sturdy and I don't think she leaks. There is no paperwork, but I can give you a notarized bill of sale. Would make a great project for someone. Delivery is available for a reasonable fee. Please look at all pics and email me with any questions, or call me at 941-204-4196

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These are the specifications provided by the designers, but even from the factory, these boats may not be identical. The reason for this is that the sail industry often contracts manufacturing to different sources in order to achieve economies of scale. What this means is – your Siren 17 may be more unique than you initially thought.

It’s important to note that boats are also frequently customized, so if you suspect that work has been done on yours, it’s best to take your own measurements. When ordering a sail, we will advise you if using the manufacturer’s specifications is appropriate, or if we require you to complete our own measurement forms.

I: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m

J: 6.00 ft / 1.83 m

P: 17.75 ft / 5.41 m

E: 8.00 ft / 2.44 m

The Siren 17 is a small, monohull with a length overall of 17 feet and a beam of 6 feet. It has a displacement of 750 pounds and a sail area of approximately 139 square feet. The boat is designed to be sailed by one or two people and has a maximum capacity of four. The Siren 17’s low profile and sleek lines give it a modern, sporty look that is both functional and attractive. The boat’s interior is made up of fiberglass and molded with foam; the cabin has mahogany handrails and enough space for two average-size adults to sleep. The cockpit, on the other hand, is much larger than the cockpits of most 17-footers. It has a draft of 4.25 ft. and consists of a steel plate centerboard that is operated from the cockpit.

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The Siren 17 is a responsive and lively sailboat that is well-suited for both racing and cruising. Its light weight and narrow beam make it quick and agile on the water, while its large sail area allows it to perform well in light to moderate winds. The boat’s high aspect ratio rig and deep keel provide excellent upwind performance and good stability in rough conditions. Overall, the Siren 17 is a fun and versatile sailboat that can provide hours of enjoyment for sailors of all skill levels. Because of its compact design, the Siren 17 sailboat can be transported without the help of a crowd; it can be easily towed to a medium-size car for launching and hauling out. Despite being a full-featured, small-size sailboat, it is economical.

The Siren 17 was designed by Hubert Vandestadt in 1967 as a small, affordable sailboat for recreational use. It was produced by his company – Vandestadt & Mc Gruer Ltd, in Canada, Ontario. After its launch in 1974, the company produced nearly 3,200 units of this model. The production continued for thirteen years, and it became the most successful sailboat produced in Canada. Its lightweight fiberglass hull and simple rigging made it popular among amateur sailors who wanted a boat that was easy to handle and fun to sail. The Siren 17 quickly became a popular choice for racing, and its reputation for speed and agility on the water led to the development of a one-design racing class in the early 1970s.

The Siren 17 features a sloop rig with a mainsail and a jib. The mainsail has a sail area of approximately 89 square feet, while the jib has a sail area of approximately 50 square feet. The Siren 17’s sail plan provides excellent performance in a wide range of wind conditions. The large mainsail and jib allow the boat to generate plenty of power, while the high aspect ratio rig provides good efficiency and speed. The boat is particularly well-suited for sailing upwind, where its deep keel and powerful sail plan can help it make good progress against the wind.

The Siren 17 is a versatile and enjoyable pocket cruiser that has been a popular choice among sailors for over 50 years. Its simple yet modern design, excellent performance, and low maintenance requirements make it an ideal choice for both racing and cruising.

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